This Morning My Jeep didnt start.. What could it be? *Update*

[hevnsnt]

update, replaced the Fuel pump relay with the AC clutch relay and it fired right up.. Farking relay

 

[Ornery]

Where did you get the brilliant idea to swap relays? Did Roger PM you or something? 🙂

 

[hevnsnt]

jeepsunlimited forums 🙂

 

[Down4U]

For what it's worth, I drive a '96 GC Laredo and also had to replace the fuel pump recently. I let the tank go all the way to empty once, which I then learned pretty much kills Chrysler pumps from all the junk that collects in the tank. She had the same symptom (cranking, but no start). I thought it was the relay too, since I swapped with the wiper relay, and it worked for a bit. Got the pump replaced, and the problem went away.

What are fuel additives? Is dry gas considered an additive? (You know, the liquid you put in the tank so that your gas doesn't freeze when it gets real cold). Lately I've been adding fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank every time I fill up too. Maybe I shouldn't do that as often?

 

[Down4U]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
update, replaced the Fuel pump relay with the AC clutch relay and it fired right up.. Farking relay

LOL Don't be fooled. I did that too with my truck and it only worked for a day. Next morning she would only crank on, but not start. Make sure that the last place your jeep ends up parked at the end of the day is your garage. 🙂

 

Where did you get the brilliant idea to swap relays? Did Roger PM you or something?

I somehow managed to miss this thread completely, someone else gave him that bright idea 🙂

 

[woowoo]

A fuel pump that is drawing too much current will take out the relay.
I would get an extra one and put it in the glove box.
(under the gloves)

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Down4U
For what it's worth, I drive a '96 GC Laredo and also had to replace the fuel pump recently. I let the tank go all the way to empty once, which I then learned pretty much kills Chrysler pumps from all the junk that collects in the tank. She had the same symptom (cranking, but no start). I thought it was the relay too, since I swapped with the wiper relay, and it worked for a bit. Got the pump replaced, and the problem went away.

What are fuel additives? Is dry gas considered an additive? (You know, the liquid you put in the tank so that your gas doesn't freeze when it gets real cold). Lately I've been adding fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank every time I fill up too. Maybe I shouldn't do that as often?

Yes, Dry Gas is an additve. I think it's methanol. Since water readily mixes with alcohol, you add some of that to the fuel.. and the water doesen't seperate out. Alcohols can damage some fuel system components. Fuel additives like injector cleaner generally aren't going to hurt anything.

 

[Down4U]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Down4U
For what it's worth, I drive a '96 GC Laredo and also had to replace the fuel pump recently. I let the tank go all the way to empty once, which I then learned pretty much kills Chrysler pumps from all the junk that collects in the tank. She had the same symptom (cranking, but no start). I thought it was the relay too, since I swapped with the wiper relay, and it worked for a bit. Got the pump replaced, and the problem went away.

What are fuel additives? Is dry gas considered an additive? (You know, the liquid you put in the tank so that your gas doesn't freeze when it gets real cold). Lately I've been adding fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank every time I fill up too. Maybe I shouldn't do that as often?

Yes, Dry Gas is an additve. I think it's methanol. Since water readily mixes with alcohol, you add some of that to the fuel.. and the water doesen't seperate out. Alcohols can damage some fuel system components. Fuel additives like injector cleaner generally aren't going to hurt anything.

Ugh! Good thing I've only put dry gas like once or twice in my tank, when it's been real cold out for several days.

 

[DanJ]

My Jeep stalled and died a month ago. Had it towed to Jeep Dealership. Distributor was bad supposedly (if they moved it around it would start)...had to get that replaced plus parts that go with it I guess (I'm truly a car guy I know) plus full tune up... $460

Then 12 days later stalled and died again. Towed to Jeep thnking they screwed me. Supposedly battery was failing start and load test. So had to get a new one, plus new diagnostic fee as it wasn't the same problem (although they supposedly lowered it). $150.

Yea, that was a fun month. I almost have any faith in the car now.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Down4U

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Down4U
For what it's worth, I drive a '96 GC Laredo and also had to replace the fuel pump recently. I let the tank go all the way to empty once, which I then learned pretty much kills Chrysler pumps from all the junk that collects in the tank. She had the same symptom (cranking, but no start). I thought it was the relay too, since I swapped with the wiper relay, and it worked for a bit. Got the pump replaced, and the problem went away.

What are fuel additives? Is dry gas considered an additive? (You know, the liquid you put in the tank so that your gas doesn't freeze when it gets real cold). Lately I've been adding fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank every time I fill up too. Maybe I shouldn't do that as often?

Yes, Dry Gas is an additve. I think it's methanol. Since water readily mixes with alcohol, you add some of that to the fuel.. and the water doesen't seperate out. Alcohols can damage some fuel system components. Fuel additives like injector cleaner generally aren't going to hurt anything.

Ugh! Good thing I've only put dry gas like once or twice in my tank, when it's been real cold out for several days.

You probably don't have anything to worry about. I'd assume that any newer car has a methanol-compatible fuel system. If you had water in your tank, it is a good thing to use.. It's not necessary as a preventative measure though.

By the way, gasoline does not freeze.. at least at any temperature that you'd see anywhere but the arctic. 😉

 

[Down4U]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Down4U

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Down4U
For what it's worth, I drive a '96 GC Laredo and also had to replace the fuel pump recently. I let the tank go all the way to empty once, which I then learned pretty much kills Chrysler pumps from all the junk that collects in the tank. She had the same symptom (cranking, but no start). I thought it was the relay too, since I swapped with the wiper relay, and it worked for a bit. Got the pump replaced, and the problem went away.

What are fuel additives? Is dry gas considered an additive? (You know, the liquid you put in the tank so that your gas doesn't freeze when it gets real cold). Lately I've been adding fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank every time I fill up too. Maybe I shouldn't do that as often?

Yes, Dry Gas is an additve. I think it's methanol. Since water readily mixes with alcohol, you add some of that to the fuel.. and the water doesen't seperate out. Alcohols can damage some fuel system components. Fuel additives like injector cleaner generally aren't going to hurt anything.

Ugh! Good thing I've only put dry gas like once or twice in my tank, when it's been real cold out for several days.

You probably don't have anything to worry about. I'd assume that any newer car has a methanol-compatible fuel system. If you had water in your tank, it is a good thing to use.. It's not necessary as a preventative measure though.

By the way, gasoline does not freeze.. at least at any temperature that you'd see anywhere but the arctic. 😉

That's what I thought, but you know how old school some pops can be, like mine. 😉

 

[Down4U]

Originally posted by: DanJ
My Jeep stalled and died a month ago. Had it towed to Jeep Dealership. Distributor was bad supposedly (if they moved it around it would start)...had to get that replaced plus parts that go with it I guess (I'm truly a car guy I know) plus full tune up... $460

Then 12 days later stalled and died again. Towed to Jeep thnking they screwed me. Supposedly battery was failing start and load test. So had to get a new one, plus new diagnostic fee as it wasn't the same problem (although they supposedly lowered it). $150.

Yea, that was a fun month. I almost have any faith in the car now.

I hear ya. A bunch of stuff went wrong with my GC too, and what's grand about it is that it all went at once. New tranny seal, new fuel pump, new fuel filter, tune up and engine seal for coolant change. All of that at the lovely expense of a grand.

Nothing else has broken down ever since though.