Red Squirrel
No Lifer
Wow shows our law system is just as screwed up as the US one. Only difference, in the US it would of took them 25 years to come to this conclusion.
Seriously though, the minute he was taken off that bus he should of been guilty on the spot and prosecuted on the spot. He MURDERED someone, and there are plenty of witnesses, end of story, guilty, none of this fluffing around BS. I don't get the law system sometimes. It's messed.
This guy probably wont last long on the streets anyway, then again he'll just become a serial killer since apparently murder is legal if you're insane. That will now be his new hobby.
Seriously though, the minute he was taken off that bus he should of been guilty on the spot and prosecuted on the spot. He MURDERED someone, and there are plenty of witnesses, end of story, guilty, none of this fluffing around BS. I don't get the law system sometimes. It's messed.
This guy probably wont last long on the streets anyway, then again he'll just become a serial killer since apparently murder is legal if you're insane. That will now be his new hobby.
BeauJangles
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Before you open your mouth, you might actually want to read what punishment this guy is facing. He isn't going back on the streets and he will likely never be back on the streets.
You also might want to consider the implications of locking him in prison and how dangerous that would be for him, the other prisoners, and the guards.
Or you can dispel all logic and reason and just be a vindictive SOB.
Like I said before:
Originally posted by: roid450
Two :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
He should repay for the others life with his own. I never understood how the US can let people who have killed one or more people live in prison waiting for the day they are lethally injected or die of natural cause. If they'd just eliminate these sorts of people soon after the crime was committed, it would cost the state less money since they would have 1 less person to keep alive in prison
Capital Punishment FTW.
And what do you say to the hundreds of people who have either been put to death or are on death row whose convictions are overturned? Do you write now-dead innocent people's families a little letter saying, "I'm sorry we murdered your husband / wife / son / daughter / mother / father. We thought he was guilty. Our mistake."? How can a society be comfortable with putting people to death when we know the system is flawed and that innocent people are dying?
roid450
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Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Before you open your mouth, you might actually want to read what punishment this guy is facing. He isn't going back on the streets and he will likely never be back on the streets.
You also might want to consider the implications of locking him in prison and how dangerous that would be for him, the other prisoners, and the guards.
Or you can dispel all logic and reason and just be a vindictive SOB.
Like I said before:
Originally posted by: roid450
Two :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
He should repay for the others life with his own. I never understood how the US can let people who have killed one or more people live in prison waiting for the day they are lethally injected or die of natural cause. If they'd just eliminate these sorts of people soon after the crime was committed, it would cost the state less money since they would have 1 less person to keep alive in prison
Capital Punishment FTW.
And what do you say to the hundreds of people who have either been put to death or are on death row whose convictions are overturned? Do you write now-dead innocent people's families a little letter saying, "I'm sorry we murdered your husband / wife / son / daughter / mother / father. We thought he was guilty. Our mistake."? How can a society be comfortable with putting people to death when we know the system is flawed and that innocent people are dying?
No worries ^^^ the Judicial system should start striving to better themselves so as to not have innocent people convicted ie. better investigations etc...
:thumbsup:
AreaCode707
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Excellent post. There is a very good reason we allow people to plead not guilty by reason of insanity. If you honestly cannot tell the difference between right and wrong you can only be held so accountable for your actions. I'd have to agree that, just by looking at what he did, he's pretty insane.
BeauJangles
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roid450
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If someone is still waiting to be charged guilty for murder, let them live, but new comers... undergo better investigation and if the outcome is that they are guilty.. Capital Punishment :thumbsup:
If there's people currently in jail that have alreayd been found guilty, but waiting for their date of lethal injection etc... let's expedite that process :thumbsup:
If there's people currently in jail that have alreayd been found guilty, but waiting for their date of lethal injection etc... let's expedite that process :thumbsup:
if he's not going to jail for murder, he's definitely going to an asylum so he can never breed...
Don't be dense you fool.
The point is that animals don't have the same level of awareness as human beings, yet they are punished for things that most often are completely justified by their sense of instinct. They have no moral awareness. This man, who is considered medically insane, is arguably on the same level as an animal. To quote: "He did not appreciate the act he committed was morally wrong. He believed he was acting in self defence [sic] and that he had been commanded by God to do so."
Very few animals are capable of beheading other creatures and then storing body parts as souvenirs. Yet when an otherwise domesticated and harmless animal turns "crazy" because of some perceived threat, it is put down. The same animal is almost certainly less responsible morally for its actions than the man. So either give animals, who act almost exclusively on instinct, a chance at rehabilitation; or, if you're not going to do that, hold human beings, insane or not, at the same level of responsibility.
I eat animals, I know they "aren't the same." I also consider the fact that mental insanity is a genuine reason for such actions. But the way I see it, someone who does this should either be locked in a mental institution for life, or if freed, closely guarded or supervised; or locked in prison or put to death because of reasonable intent.
Justice was properly served here IMO. The interview with the Mother was telling in that she was not disappointed. She did say that they would be going to ensure he stayed in prison each year. Also the quote 'my Son died of a terrible illness but was never sick' was pretty cool IMO.
The dad was a tool though, talking about how we need to increase security on the bus to be sure this never happens again. There is no way you can protect against a crazy going head hunter on someone. Apparently the guy was mostly dead before anyone even realized it happened, so even in gun happy Texas no one would have shot him in time.
The dad was a tool though, talking about how we need to increase security on the bus to be sure this never happens again. There is no way you can protect against a crazy going head hunter on someone. Apparently the guy was mostly dead before anyone even realized it happened, so even in gun happy Texas no one would have shot him in time.
lxskllr
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Originally posted by: roid450
That's different than killing a person with ur own hands or a gun with the intent of killing them. The car thing would be an accident. But what if you actually wanted to run the person over, thats a different story
It's not any different. That guy didn't have any control over his actions. God told him to kill that dude to protect himself from evil. That shit's *real* when you're schizophrenic. It's the same as if I came after you with a knife. That's a real threat that you have to deal with. There's no debate, or indecision. You take me out, or end up killed yourself. That's the same situation Li was in. Unfortunately, his reality isn't the same as the rest of ours.
That guy at the end of the video looked like Alec Baldwin.
Haven't seen you post in a while jokersmoker, good to see you.
Haven't seen you post in a while jokersmoker, good to see you.
And that's exactly what's happened here. If (and that's a BIG if) this man is ever released from the facility in which he's held, he WILL be monitored. And at the smallest sign of relapse or non-adherence with whatever treatment regimen is prescribed, he will again be held in a state facility.
What needs to be understood is that many individuals with severe mental illness (e.g., schizophrenia) don't necessarily know or understand that anything is "wrong" with them. Their reality--while much different from the reality of most other individuals--is still a reality to them.
Just as you "know" the words going through your mind as you silently read this post to yourself are your own thoughts, so too do many individuals with psychosis "know" that those same words and thoughts are the products of someone or something outside of themselves. They have significant difficulty differentiating between their own thoughts and the thoughts, actions, and words of other people. It's a significant breakdown in an individual's ability to monitor reality, so to speak.
Krynj
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Why is pleading insanity a 'get out of jail free' card? He killed somebody. Why is he not in jail forever? What separates him from the rest of the ruthless killers in the world? A mental disorder? Who gives a shit. He cut a young man's head off, and yet, no jail sentence.
He doesn't deserve to live. End of story. Mental disability or not. If he's 'insane' enough to cut some guy's head off for feeling threatened, what the fuck can this guy possibly ever contribute to society?
Enough tip-toeing around human rights. The line has to be drawn eventually. Anybody that takes another life, for whatever reason, in whatever context, doesn't deserve special treatment because they're insane. They should be fucking killed. Talk about degradation of the human race.
He doesn't deserve to live. End of story. Mental disability or not. If he's 'insane' enough to cut some guy's head off for feeling threatened, what the fuck can this guy possibly ever contribute to society?
Enough tip-toeing around human rights. The line has to be drawn eventually. Anybody that takes another life, for whatever reason, in whatever context, doesn't deserve special treatment because they're insane. They should be fucking killed. Talk about degradation of the human race.
Not guilty by reason if insanity isnt a get out of jail free card.
The person is in pretty much in a medical ward of a prison for the rest of their life.
People mistake not guilty by reason of instanity with not guilty by reason of temporary insanity.
The later is the one where people spend a fraction of the time in a mental institution then released. The former, they almost never get released.
The person is in pretty much in a medical ward of a prison for the rest of their life.
People mistake not guilty by reason of instanity with not guilty by reason of temporary insanity.
The later is the one where people spend a fraction of the time in a mental institution then released. The former, they almost never get released.
Didnt the chick in Tennessee who shot her husband in his sleep sit in a psych hospital for like 4 months? What justice. 4 months for killing somebody in their sleep.
I really dont care about the insanity defense. I find is a technicality created by the judicial system. What about people high on drugs or alcohol? They obviously cant comprehend their actions either and should be put into detox until they are deemed reahabed then let out into society again.
If cripples and mental handicaps are decapitating and eating people fuck em kill em too I don't care.
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