This just in, despite what JulesMaximus says, the SV650 isn't all that...

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Should be a great starting bike. Check to make sure it starts easily and runs well once warmed up. Make sure the tires are in good shape and that the fluids are clean and clear with no leaks or rash anywhere, paint should be in decent condition, no rust. A bike like this in good shape should fetch around $1000 or so easily. Less if anything I mentioned is out of sorts.

Hmm, I'll be sure to look out for all that. I was looking at a 1984 one I saw listed for $1000 that seems to be in good condition. There's also a 1982 in excellent condition at $1000 as well, but that one has a less powerful engine.

Also saw a 1992 Suzuki Katana 750 for $1500 and a 1989 Kawasaki Ninja 600 for $1300, but those seem too fast for beginning.

Thanks for all the info.

 

[RiDE]

Wowsers.... hot bike! 😎

Are you going to get rid of the rear pegs?

 

[Kirby]

Have you found out how fast it goes? 😛

 

[MotF Bane]

Congratulations. JM delivers!

 

[PricklyPete]

Beautiful bike Jules.

 

[jlarsson]

Sweet ride!

I've been tempted to head down to my dealer to try out the new 1100Evo, but I'm afraid I'd be trading in my Hypermotard 796 as soon as I return from the test ride 🙂.

 

[roguerower]

Damnit...now I have to take pictures of my STripleR to counter your Duck awesomeness.

It's amazing the feeling you get the first time you jump off that intro bike and get on something that just begs you to ride it til it screams (giggity). I know the 650 isn't an intro bike, but good god man, that bike is amazing.

I'm gonna defend Jules on the whole hypocrisy thing. My Triumph is a 675cc liquid cooled 3 cylinder and is capable of 100hp & 45ft-lbs of torque. His 1100cc air cooled 2 cylinder puts out the same 100hp but an insane 30ft-lbs more torque. A 1000cc supersport puts out around 170hp and 70ft-lbs of torque. So while the torque is the same between a supersport & the duck, the HP is very different.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Damnit...now I have to take pictures of my STripleR to counter your Duck awesomeness.

It's amazing the feeling you get the first time you jump off that intro bike and get on something that just begs you to ride it til it screams (giggity). I know the 650 isn't an intro bike, but good god man, that bike is amazing.

I'm gonna defend Jules on the whole hypocrisy thing. My Triumph is a 675cc liquid cooled 3 cylinder and is capable of 100hp & 45ft-lbs of torque. His 1100cc air cooled 2 cylinder puts out the same 100hp but an insane 30ft-lbs more torque. A 1000cc supersport puts out around 170hp and 70ft-lbs of torque. So while the torque is the same between a supersport & the duck, the HP is very different.

Yeah, I don't think you can call a bike capable of ripping of a 0-60mph dash in under 4 seconds a good intro bike. I was riding an older heavier bike for a good year and a half before I bought the SV and when I first rode it it sure took some getting used to. Especially the torque and engine braking. Throttle control is key on the SV...even moreso on the Duc.

Plenty of people start out on the SV but plenty of people race them too and I'd say it is more of a bike you can grow into and not grow out of which is not true of most entry level bikes. It's a great bike but with this beast in my garage I know the SV will just collect dust. Besides, I'm going to take the money from selling the SV and put it straight into paying this one off early.

 

[Fenixgoon]

you chose.......wisely </knight from indiana jones>

 

[roguerower]

Time to show off another beauty from across the pond. Just added the flyscreen, case guards, & fender eliminator this past weekend. Really like the cleaner look...just gotta wash it now to bring out the shine!

The only thing I don't like are the massive mirrors. Gotta save up my pennies for some bar ends.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Time to show off another beauty from across the pond. Just added the flyscreen, case guards, & fender eliminator this past weekend. Really like the cleaner look...just gotta wash it now to bring out the shine!

The only thing I don't like are the massive mirrors. Gotta save up my pennies for some bar ends.

:thumbsup: That bike looks sick from the rear. Honestly, it was on my short list a couple years ago but I really dig the Ducati. I am not disappointed at all.

 

[roguerower]

Definitely no reason to be disappointed, the Ducati is badass.

 

[AMCRambler]

And I still think that. This isn't a liter bike per se. It makes 100hp and 76ft-lbs of torque. There is a big difference between this and a liter bike. Liter bike typically denotes a supersport. This is not a supersport.

Hypocrisy not found.

1078cc = 1 liter. Hypocrisy found.

 

[jaha2000]

1078cc = 1 liter. Hypocrisy found.

You call a hardly a liter bike as well?

Great bike JM. Might be on my short list once i get sick of the 1000RR. Might be happening already though, find myself riding the XR650R Supermoto about 90% of the times these days.

Hows the riding position on it? I have not seen one at my dealer for some reason, i really would like to demo one of of these days.

 

[JulesMaximus]

You call a hardly a liter bike as well?

Great bike JM. Might be on my short list once i get sick of the 1000RR. Might be happening already though, find myself riding the XR650R Supermoto about 90% of the times these days.

Hows the riding position on it? I have not seen one at my dealer for some reason, i really would like to demo one of of these days.

Pretty good actually, better than my SV (but I changed the handlebar on that a couple years ago). The seat does slide you right up against the tank though so make sure your twig and berries are adjusted properly.

The reason you haven't seen one is that they just came out a month ago. The first one my dealer got in was pre-sold so I put down a deposit on this one with the agreement to purchase as long as it was red. I think Ducati Newport Beach has a demo model for sale or at least they did a couple weeks ago.

I think Ducati is being conservative with production so as to not over burden their dealerships with inventory.

 

[JulesMaximus]

1078cc = 1 liter. Hypocrisy found.

Well shit, I guess Harley Davidson sells mostly literbikes then. Maybe I'll get one as a trackday weapon!

Technically, you could say I own a bike of greater than 1 liter of displacement, and I certainly do, but every time I have made reference to a literbike in my posts here I was referring to a 1000cc supersport. I certainly never meant to imply that a Harley Davidson has too much power for street use, or even a Triumph Speed Triple (1050cc), or a Ducati Monster S4R for that matter, and if you can find one single post of mine in which I did I'll eat my hat...hell, I'll eat your hat too. 😀

I don't even begrudge people who buy 1000cc supersports. I just happen to think that they don't make great street bikes.

So, again, hypocrisy not found. If I go out and buy a Yamaha R1 then, yeah, I guess you could call me a hypocrite.

Ball's back in your court champ! 😛

 

[eBauer]

1078cc = 1 liter. Hypocrisy found.

Whenever Jules refers to a literbike, he is talking about 'superbikes' - R1/GSXR 1000/CBR 1000RR/ZX10R/Duc 1198. Basically this includes any machine you'll see in the AMA Superbike or World Superbike racing series.

As others have stated, you can't compare a 'superbike' to a 1078cc sport touring bike. It's a night and day difference in every category.

 

[Zargon]

very nice!!!!

welcome to the italian club 🙂

 

[PlasmaBomb]

So you finally bought the 1100 evo 🙂

Grats Jules :thumbsup:

 

[SViper]

Awesome ride. You got my dream bike. I'm envious 🙂

That bike just looks all kinds of sexy.

 

[AMCRambler]

Guess you should have said super sport instead of using the wrong term then. Can't blame anyone for not understanding what you mean. If you're talking about super sports say super sport. Google liter bike and see what comes up. Your definition = not found. I think you like to use terminology that you think makes you seem more knowledgeable on the subject. Good try.

I honestly don't see the difference. A super sport is 1000cc's and your Ducati is 1000 cc's. What's the difference? Does the super sport have more horsepower? Is it lighter? Is it 2/10's faster in a 1/4 mile? Enlighten us oh genius of motorcycling.

And yes, if you want to split hairs a Harley is a liter bike, although you'll get kicked in the balls if you walk up to someone that owns one and call it that, haha.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Guess you should have said super sport instead of using the wrong term then. Can't blame anyone for not understanding what you mean. If you're talking about super sports say super sport. Google liter bike and see what comes up. Your definition = not found. I think you like to use terminology that you think makes you seem more knowledgeable on the subject. Good try.

I honestly don't see the difference. A super sport is 1000cc's and your Ducati is 1000 cc's. What's the difference? Does the super sport have more horsepower? Is it lighter? Is it 2/10's faster in a 1/4 mile? Enlighten us oh genius of motorcycling.

And yes, if you want to split hairs a Harley is a liter bike, although you'll get kicked in the balls if you walk up to someone that owns one and call it that, haha.

Near as I can tell you're the only one who didn't know what I meant.

Do a google image search for literbike. Then go and search motorcyclistonline.com for literbike and tell me what pops up. It's not an obscure term nor is it used to describe bikes that aren't 1000cc supersports or based on a 1000cc supersport bike.

Here, I'll save you the trouble.

If you don't know squat about bikes maybe you shouldn't post in motorcycle related threads.

 

[rstrohkirch]

Don't these motors dyno around low 80s HP and mid 60s for torque at the wheel?

 

[rstrohkirch]

I honestly don't see the difference. A super sport is 1000cc's and your Ducati is 1000 cc's. What's the difference? Does the super sport have more horsepower? Is it lighter? Is it 2/10's faster in a 1/4 mile? Enlighten us oh genius of motorcycling.

And yes, if you want to split hairs a Harley is a liter bike, although you'll get kicked in the balls if you walk up to someone that owns one and call it that, haha.

I'm a little confused when I read these two paragraphs. The first one implies that you don't understand how the term "liter bike" is used in the motorcycling community. The second paragraph directly contradicts this and shows you do understand that the term liter bike is almost always used to reference to 1000cc super sports.

My conclusion is that you're trying to be a douche.

 

[Greenman]

Guess you should have said super sport instead of using the wrong term then. Can't blame anyone for not understanding what you mean. If you're talking about super sports say super sport. Google liter bike and see what comes up. Your definition = not found. I think you like to use terminology that you think makes you seem more knowledgeable on the subject. Good try.

I honestly don't see the difference. A super sport is 1000cc's and your Ducati is 1000 cc's. What's the difference? Does the super sport have more horsepower? Is it lighter? Is it 2/10's faster in a 1/4 mile? Enlighten us oh genius of motorcycling.

And yes, if you want to split hairs a Harley is a liter bike, although you'll get kicked in the balls if you walk up to someone that owns one and call it that, haha.

The difference is the 1000cc Duc puts out around 100 pony's, the 1000cc super sport is around 165 at the tire. That's about a 65 horsepower difference as near as I can figure it.

The new Harlys are actually around 1687cc's, just a bit more than an SS, and about half the horsepower.