This June was the warmest June on record

[Zaap]

Ahh it's summer again.

Mild weather means= "Silly! You can't look at the current weather as any indication of Climate Change(tm)!"

Colder than average weather means= "See!? Climate Change(tm)!!!" *

And now of course hot weather means we're back to Global Warming.







* Unless of course in winter, then see same as mild weather.

 

[spacejamz]

Dallas hasn't even officially hit 100 degrees yet and we are 3 weeks into July which definitely isn't normal...we should hit that century mark in the next day or so though..

 

[Jaskalas]

You sound like a Thomas Friedman article generator.

And yet there are eight posts discussing current local weather... in a climate topic.

 

[agent00f]

Ahh it's summer again.

Mild weather means= "Silly! You can't look at the current weather as any indication of Climate Change(tm)!"

Colder than average weather means= "See!? Climate Change(tm)!!!" *

And now of course hot weather means we're back to Global Warming.







* Unless of course in winter, then see same as mild weather.

The unfortunate reality is somewhat complex physics like that behind climate isn't conducive to simpletons.

 

[Paratus]

Crap didn't post right.

 

[master_shake_]

And yet there are eight posts discussing current local weather... in a climate topic.

that's all the graphic is in the op.

what are you on about?

is it that no one said anything about province/state wide averages?

 

[PricklyPete]

It has definitely been a scorcher here in CO...although the lack of humidity makes it bearable and the evenings wonderful. Was in Kansas City and St. Louis last weekend...dear god... That was TERRIBLE.

 

[Moonbeam]

The unfortunate reality is somewhat complex physics like that behind climate isn't conducive to simpletons.

Zaap isn't a simpleton. None of the climate deniers here are. Every time there is a contest of any kind the conservative brain latches onto whatever conclusion may have political ramifications that relate to some political position favorable to their side. Conservative brain is fear avoidance amplified and the notion of change is all it takes to switch on its paranoia suppression mode. The terror they fear is that climate change will drain their wallets with more liberal generated government bureaucracy and the implications for lifestyle change. It's better to bury ones head in the sand and pretend things will always be the same than that feel ones beliefs are in part responsible for a disaster that will bring greater misery to the humans all over the planet.

Naturally, they won't want to see the real motivation, the mechanically simplistic nature of what drives them, because its profoundly humiliating to anybody who imagines him or herself capable of responsible behavior, so what you will see instead is complex and ornate rationalizations they can pass off as rationality.

One of the great features of being a conformist in a privileged society, is the gift it gives to the ego. Particularly, I you are white and male and well connected and talented in a limited range of abilities, you can build your own air conditioned tower. Who would trade their ego gratifications for other people? Have you ever considered how much of real life a person gives up to get there?

 

[Paratus]

Ahh it's summer again.

Mild weather means= "Silly! You can't look at the current weather as any indication of Climate Change(tm)!"

Colder than average weather means= "See!? Climate Change(tm)!!!" *

And now of course hot weather means we're back to Global Warming.







* Unless of course in winter, then see same as mild weather.

http://gizmodo.com/this-bouncy-siberian-soil-is-a-troubling-sign-for-our-p-1784033816

:whiste:

 

[Joepublic2]

http://gizmodo.com/this-bouncy-siberian-soil-is-a-troubling-sign-for-our-p-1784033816

:whiste:

Cool. They can probably drill for oil/gas and mine coal there now without all that annoying permafrost in the way.

 

[agent00f]

Zaap isn't a simpleton. None of the climate deniers here are. Every time there is a contest of any kind the conservative brain latches onto whatever conclusion may have political ramifications that relate to some political position favorable to their side. Conservative brain is fear avoidance amplified and the notion of change is all it takes to switch on its paranoia suppression mode. The terror they fear is that climate change will drain their wallets with more liberal generated government bureaucracy and the implications for lifestyle change. It's better to bury ones head in the sand and pretend things will always be the same than that feel ones beliefs are in part responsible for a disaster that will bring greater misery to the humans all over the planet.

Naturally, they won't want to see the real motivation, the mechanically simplistic nature of what drives them, because its profoundly humiliating to anybody who imagines him or herself capable of responsible behavior, so what you will see instead is complex and ornate rationalizations they can pass off as rationality.

One of the great features of being a conformist in a privileged society, is the gift it gives to the ego. Particularly, I you are white and male and well connected and talented in a limited range of abilities, you can build your own air conditioned tower. Who would trade their ego gratifications for other people? Have you ever considered how much of real life a person gives up to get there?

I just weigh the first bolded aspect more than the second, since it accounts for the range of human intellect, whereas some level of rhetorical justification/rationalization is a facility humans are all born with.

As to the cost of applying intelligence to create awareness of the world, understanding situations better is generally beneficial and costs little per se. Even in terms of ego, "I'm the good guy" positivity can be suitably replaced with looking down at the dummies. There's probably some cost only if we assume the subject has a sense of ethnics, which I suppose is fair enough in abrahamic cultures.

 

[zinfamous]

What matters are indoor temperatures and the temperature of my pool.

Or the snowball you keep in your icebox to show to your various house guests and prove that snow still exists and global warming is a myth?

 

[Moonbeam]

I just weigh the first bolded aspect more than the second, since it accounts for the range of human intellect, whereas some level of rhetorical justification/rationalization is a facility humans are all born with.

As to the cost of applying intelligence to create awareness of the world, understanding situations better is generally beneficial and costs little per se. Even in terms of ego, "I'm the good guy" positivity can be suitably replaced with looking down at the dummies. There's probably some cost only if we assume the subject has a sense of ethnics, which I suppose is fair enough in abrahamic cultures.

I believe there is one truth and it covers all of us. Ethics is just an external manifestation of empathy, an inborn genetic trait. Abrahamic cultures are just open manifestation of that larger fact. The cost of the denial of our inner reality is always paid for by ejection from the Garden of Eden.

I speak in symbols for things unseen. The words could be anything in a non-Abrahamic culture.

Form is here emptiness, emptiness form, for example. To realize ones true self requires a shift in conscious experience, a leap of faith, a stroke of grace, or bottoming out, for some examples.

 

[agent00f]

Abrahamic religion isn't responsible for ethics itself but is for the pervasive notion of good/evil. Most other religions/culture esp in the past saw life more accurately as a conflict between interests. Like for example the greek gods or buddist dieties weren't just absolute idols but manifest many human foibles.

Popularizing the ideal that we're the good guys fighting evil is arguable responsible for much of the dehumanization & such characteristic of amoral behavior.

 

[Subyman]

Popularizing the ideal that we're the good guys fighting evil is arguable responsible for much of the dehumanization & such characteristic of amoral behavior.

I agree. Simplifying the gods created a more pointed and direct instrument for guiding public perception and conflict. Even those who recently (generation wise) became atheist manifest this "good and evil" structure into their ethical system. I see this a lot especially from the youth.

 

[norseamd]

Ahh it's summer again.

Mild weather means= "Silly! You can't look at the current weather as any indication of Climate Change(tm)!"

Colder than average weather means= "See!? Climate Change(tm)!!!" *

And now of course hot weather means we're back to Global Warming.

Not surprising you do not know the fucking difference between weather and climate.

 

[norseamd]

Abrahamic religion isn't responsible for ethics itself but is for the pervasive notion of good/evil. Most other religions/culture esp in the past saw life more accurately as a conflict between interests. Like for example the greek gods or buddist dieties weren't just absolute idols but manifest many human foibles.

Popularizing the ideal that we're the good guys fighting evil is arguable responsible for much of the dehumanization & such characteristic of amoral behavior.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?324708-1/sir-david-cannadine-undivided-past

 

[Paratus]

Or the snowball you keep in your icebox to show to your various house guests and prove that snow still exists and global warming is a myth?

Like this CLIMATE INACTION HERO!

With his spiked snow ball!

Or maybe Ted Cruz With Anti-Science Shield!

Climate Inaction Figures!(YouTube)

Collect them all!
(Government sold separately)

 

[brycejones]

Cool. They can probably drill for oil/gas and mine coal there now without all that annoying permafrost in the way.

Yes because a massive methane release from former permafrost trunda is a good thing.

 

[norseamd]

Crap didn't post right.

Do you know anything about this shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE1LiftbMeE#t=3.192958

 

[Moonbeam]

Abrahamic religion isn't responsible for ethics itself but is for the pervasive notion of good/evil. Most other religions/culture esp in the past saw life more accurately as a conflict between interests. Like for example the greek gods or buddist dieties weren't just absolute idols but manifest many human foibles.

Popularizing the ideal that we're the good guys fighting evil is arguable responsible for much of the dehumanization & such characteristic of amoral behavior.

There are two kinds of certainty. Those who know and know they know and those who think they know and everybody else must think like they do. Good is a state of being, not a philosophical idea. Evil arises out of non-being. Non being exists in time and thought and is of the past. It is the program that runs the Matrix, if you will., a dream full of sound and fury signifying nothing.

Good is what manifests in the actions of a Lover. Evil is the product of thought. Understanding this demands an altered state of awareness.

 

[Bart*Simpson]

It's because there are way too many people on this planet. In 1880 theres was barely over 1b people. Today we have over 7b. Not too bad IMO. We do need to shave a coupla billion tho.

Some reading you should do if you're going to go down this road.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Robert_Malthus

:thumbsup:

 

[soulcougher73]

Im sure it's just a coincidence....

 

[Paratus]

Do you know anything about this shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE1LiftbMeE#t=3.192958

Yes. They are talking about methane hydrates. It's basically a semistable ice along the continental shelf that if warmed up will turn to a gas. Methane is a potent greenhouse gas and would contribute significantly to warming in a feedback cycle.

http://worldoceanreview.com/en/wor-1/ocean-chemistry/climate-change-and-methane-hydrates/
Methane is also produced by warming permafrost.

There's a lot of variability in the models from this kind of feedback if I remember correctly.

 

[Joepublic2]

Yes because a massive methane release from former permafrost trunda is a good thing.

It's too bad oil companies can't figure out some way to trap that so we can burn it, I agree. All that wasted methane...