This is why there should have been action taken regarding hacking in 2016

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I’m going to both sides this because it would have been great if both sides could have agreed to a response
Summary for the lazy.
Russia, China and Iran have all stepped up their hacking efforts and have become more sophisticated about it (at least Russia & China)
Deplorable’s is this what we want to become the norm during election years?


Edit: fucking auto correct
 

hal2kilo

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I’m going to both sides this because it would have been great if both sides could have agreed to a response
Summary for the lazy.
Russia, China and Iran have all stepped up their hacking efforts and have become more sophisticated about it (at least Russia & China)
Deplorable’s is this what we want to become the norm during election years?


Edit: fucking auto correct
Talk to fucking Mitch bothsides.
 
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nakedfrog

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I’m going to both sides this because it would have been great if both sides could have agreed to a response
Summary for the lazy.
Russia, China and Iran have all stepped up their hacking efforts and have become more sophisticated about it (at least Russia & China)
Deplorable’s is this what we want to become the norm during election years?
Depends on if the outcome favors their guy or not!
 
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Deplorables don't care how they win. Team 'Cant beat em, cheat em'.

Yup and just like tax cuts or nearly any legislation the propose it is very short sighted too.
As I said in 2017(ish). Imagine a day when China backs the D candidate & Russia backs the R candidate.
Seems like China has gone after Biden more at the moment but who knows.
 

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Yup and just like tax cuts or nearly any legislation the propose it is very short sighted too.
As I said in 2017(ish). Imagine a day when China backs the D candidate & Russia backs the R candidate.
Seems like China has gone after Biden more at the moment but who knows.
Well, the easiest way to tell that your Empire is crumbling around you is when your enemies are propping it up to limit damage done to themselves, and to do damage to their enemies.

MAGA
 
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Jaskalas

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As I said in 2017(ish). Imagine a day when China backs the D candidate & Russia backs the R candidate.

Something tells me China easily wins that fight.

Anyways, what should the US response be? Severing foreign ownership and reach within our Democracy? Limiting their speech and its impact on us?
 

blackangst1

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Wait...you guys think this kind of thing is new?

Im so glad the US has never interfered in other countries elections!!

edit: OP: We DO have a response. Neither campaign has been hacked, because security mitigation is in place. There is absolutely NOTHING the US could do except wave an angry finger at them and demand they stop. Meanwhile, our intelligence agencies continue to do the same thing. This is absolutely nothing new nor surprising. Its expected.
 

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I'm guessing China doesn't want more Trump, and that gives me hope. Wait, I'm actually hoping that one corrupt act will undo another corrupt act. Fuck.
 
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Wait...you guys think this kind of thing is new?

Im so glad the US has never interfered in other countries elections!!

edit: OP: We DO have a response. Neither campaign has been hacked, because security mitigation is in place. There is absolutely NOTHING the US could do except wave an angry finger at them and demand they stop. Meanwhile, our intelligence agencies continue to do the same thing. This is absolutely nothing new nor surprising. Its expected.

As I said before, I’ll say it again.
Regarding us fucking with others is irrelevant

I do the fucking, I don’t get fucked.
If you want to get fucked that’s your own decision. Don’t include me on that fucking.

I do not agree finger waiving is the only thing. That’s why you have allies to help out with shit like this. Most of Europe gets fucked with by Russia, wouldn’t it be amazing if the President asked for a united response? Shit wouldn’t it be great if the President could admit Russia fucked with us? Wouldn’t it be great if the President could say anything bad about Russia.

Guys like you make me say fuck it, let’s take China’s help. Why not and at least that will make dudes who sound like you aware of it.
 
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Jhhnn

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Wait...you guys think this kind of thing is new?

Im so glad the US has never interfered in other countries elections!!

edit: OP: We DO have a response. Neither campaign has been hacked, because security mitigation is in place. There is absolutely NOTHING the US could do except wave an angry finger at them and demand they stop. Meanwhile, our intelligence agencies continue to do the same thing. This is absolutely nothing new nor surprising. Its expected.

The way the Russians put it all together for Trump in 2016 was revolutionary. Audacious. Absolutely brilliant. A tour de force in the dark arts of manipulating the masses. I'm sure they're still laughing at the crazy stupid Americans for making Trump President.
 

blackangst1

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As I said before, I’ll say it again.
Regarding us fucking with others is irrelevant

I do the fucking, I don’t get fucked.
If you want to get fucked that’s your own decision. Don’t include me on that fucking.

I do not agree finger waiving is the only thing. That’s why you have allies to help out with shit like this. Most of Europe gets fucked with by Russia, wouldn’t it be amazing if the President asked for a united response? Shit wouldn’t it be great if the President could admit Russia fucked with us? Wouldn’t it be great if the President could say anything bad about Russia.

Guys like you make me say fuck it, let’s take China’s help. Why not and at least that will make dudes who sound like you aware of it.

Do you have any idea how many countries try to hack us every day? I work for a large insurance company and our IPS on our edge catches attempts from 18 countries/month on average. Imagine the US government! Also, I dont know if this is true, but you seem to think its hacking by the governments only, which is ridiculous.

And our fucking with others is hugely relevant.

The thing you dont seem to understand is hacking other countries and other countries hacking us goes back more than 60 years. Its never going to stop. The best thing we can do is prepare our defense.
 

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I'm guessing China doesn't want more Trump, and that gives me hope. Wait, I'm actually hoping that one corrupt act will undo another corrupt act. Fuck.

Hacking isn't active interference, something only the Russians have been shown to do to us with any success.
 

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While Russia's motives are by now clear and well known, I remain confused about China and Iran.

But while the intelligence community has assessed that China and Iran prefer Trump to lose in November, officials have offered no indication, to date, that either country is acting on that preference in the same way as Russia, according to public statements issued by the intelligence community and sources familiar with the underlying evidence.

Some indication that they'd rather Trump leave office. They are hacking but not clearly for that purpose. What purpose then? Perhaps their purpose is acquiring information for the time being.
 

herm0016

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china is planning a big espionage and electronic warfare center in Iran. Iran is basically a client state at this point.
 
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blackangst1

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While Russia's motives are by now clear and well known, I remain confused about China and Iran.



Some indication that they'd rather Trump leave office. They are hacking but not clearly for that purpose. What purpose then? Perhaps their purpose is acquiring information for the time being.

This.
 

Jhhnn

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While Russia's motives are by now clear and well known, I remain confused about China and Iran.



Some indication that they'd rather Trump leave office. They are hacking but not clearly for that purpose. What purpose then? Perhaps their purpose is acquiring information for the time being.

No shit they'd rather Trump were gone. The same undoubtedly holds true for a lot of our friends & allies as well.
 

herm0016

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Conspiracy theory often?


it's a little bit conspiracy, but not anything hard to believe. China is investing Billions in Iran as part of the belt and road initiative. Including intelligence and monitoring capabilities for the Iranian government to keep a more Chinese like eye on their own people.
 

Jhhnn

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it's a little bit conspiracy, but not anything hard to believe. China is investing Billions in Iran as part of the belt and road initiative. Including intelligence and monitoring capabilities for the Iranian government to keep a more Chinese like eye on their own people.

Side shifting conspiracy theory. Trump drove Iran & China into each other's arms. The JCPOA tried to avoid that, to bind Iran to the West with trade & investment but nope, can't have that.
 

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The way the Russians put it all together for Trump in 2016 was revolutionary. Audacious. Absolutely brilliant. A tour de force in the dark arts of manipulating the masses. I'm sure they're still laughing at the crazy stupid Americans for making Trump President.
1960's called since that is when the seeds were planted, what you are seeing now is the bountiful harvest.


And here is the consolation prize far more dangerous than the white supremacist bogeyman, because they will eventually be your business leaders, democrat political leaders, and your leftist college professors pumping the Marxist Leninist ideology into the heads of the next generation where violence including police brutality is a good thing if done by leftists for their noble cause.

riot-arrests.jpg



 

Meghan54

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1960's called since that is when the seeds were planted, what you are seeing now is the bountiful harvest.


And here is the consolation prize far more dangerous than the white supremacist bogeyman, because they will eventually be your business leaders, democrat political leaders, and your leftist college professors pumping the Marxist Leninist ideology into the heads of the next generation where violence including police brutality is a good thing if done by leftists for their noble cause.

riot-arrests.jpg




God you are so full of shit it's unbelievable.

Democrat leaders, my ass. Didn't bother to read the fucking articles you linked, did you?

Here: "Anyone who f–ks with Democrats can't be leadership," she (Kraebber) stated.

So, they don't like Democrats, don't like Repubs. Seems they are very isolated politically. Not exactly the bullshit represented in your stream of diarrhea you spewed.