This is why the GOP is dead to me...

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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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OP, given that the GOP has been running zombie Reagan for 28 years, it only makes sense that you see them as dead.
 

WackyDan

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Jan 26, 2004
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I live in NC and an independent.

Bitch all you want about the NC GOP... They deserve it. ***But pretending the NC democrats were saints in comparison is idiotic. There was a reason McCrory won the previous election. Not only was he a popular mayor of Charlotte, but the Dems in NC to any outsider would have looked like any other republican given how in bed they were with corporate interests in this state.

McCrory's fatal mistake was HB2... Which for the life of me I can not understand how a conservative governor in a growing centrist state could even consider signing... and no, it wasn't the tranny in the bathrooms bill everyone made it out to be but actually the "nobody can sue the state for civil rights abuses bill".

Both DNC and GOP gerrymander districts. It needs to stop. It needs to be corrected.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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If people only had the great good sense to destroy the Republicans once and for all, we could all then get on with destroying the democrats who would at least adjust could be pressured to change their behavior, possessing as they do a capacity to listen to reason.

The bottom line, however, is that we have the government we deserve, a system of government so hated, and personal lives so filled with hopelessness, that people won't vote.
 

VRAMdemon

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Aug 16, 2012
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It's a blatant power grab. The people of NC elected to give Cooper the governorship with the powers that went with it at the time of the election. Hopefully they hold the Speaker of the House, in particular in contempt for saying that the extra session with any sort of politically biased bullshit they want to do is 'perfectly normal'. 'The way it has always been done'.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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If there is a point here that rebuts anything I wrote I'm not seeing it.

I do suggest putting away the crystal ball and sticking to what people write, too.

Yes I usually don't bother too much with straw. The subject of this thread is the determined efforts by an election loser to undermine democracy in NC. I don't really care what your personal annotations are concerning the two-party system on a national level; they are immaterial regarding McCrory's blatant contempt for democracy and his efforts to undermine it. My own suggestion would be for you to stick to the subject. Not that SuperPACs, Obamacare and elections 8 years past aren't interesting mind you, they just don't bear any direct relation to this story.

Some people think this story is just 'politics as usual.' Ok then, prove it. Show us when and where a Dem governor did the same thing after losing and conceding a race. Personal feelings on campaign donations for both parties does not fill this request, sorry.
 
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Yes I usually don't bother too much with straw. The subject of this thread is the determined efforts by an election loser to undermine democracy in NC. I don't really care what your personal annotations are concerning the two-party system on a national level; they are immaterial regarding McCrory's blatant contempt for democracy and his efforts to undermine it. My own suggestion would be for you to stick to the subject. Not that SuperPACs, Obamacare and elections 8 years past aren't interesting mind you, they just don't bear any direct relation to this story.

Some people think this story is just 'politics as usual.' Ok then, prove it. Show us when and where a Dem governor did the same thing after losing and conceding a race. Personal feelings on campaign donations for both parties does not fill this request, sorry.

"Same thing" is, of course, an impossibility. Do you mean an outgoing politician passing laws before an incoming politician takes office? After an election, but before it's certified?
 

vi edit

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Oct 28, 1999
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"Same thing" is, of course, an impossibility. Do you mean an outgoing politician passing laws before an incoming politician takes office? After an election, but before it's certified?

That stuff happens all of the time. But it's usually some pet fiscal policy or order. Sort of like Obama passing the multi-billion dollar cancer funding or the Planned Parenthood funding or his making a huge chunk of waters around Hawaii a national landmark. Yeah that stuff happens. But you don't often see a large scale coup like the NC RNC is doing to intentionally de-power the incoming boss. There is a big difference between annoy (which is what those fiscal bills and pet projects do) and pure malevolent intent to erode the power of an incoming elect that does not side with your isle.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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I heard about this story as well and I find it pretty disgusting. Republicans have zero shame and are an affront to democracy. The Republican apologists here are no different either. Scum bags.

If I heard it right, a special session was called to address the flooding and the Republicans chose to try and pass a ton of bills limiting the governors power.