Discussion This is why retail businesses don't succeed in America without heavy markups..

[DAPUNISHER]

Honestly, my immediate instinct when someone is stealing food is to have sympathy with the person who needs to steal food.

If you see someone stealing food No you didn't.

 

[Greenman]

Retail shrinkage is, on average, 1% to 1.5% of sales.

That's it. While it does cost all of us, it's not nearly as much as some propagandists would like you to believe.

Stop falling for rage porn propaganda.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/08/this-is-how-much-money-retailers-are-losing-to-shrink-retail-theft.html

So why do Lowes and Home Depot have entire isles under lock and key?
Theft is theft. Steal a dollar or steal a thousand dollars, it's the exact same crime. The idea that theft is acceptable does nothing but promote more theft.
I certainly don't want to see anyone jailed over snagging a toaster at Walmart, but there needs to be consequences. A fine equal to twice the value of the stolen goods would be a good start, or community service work if the perp is broke.

 

[HomerJS]

So why do Lowes and Home Depot have entire isles under lock and key?
Theft is theft. Steal a dollar or steal a thousand dollars, it's the exact same crime. The idea that theft is acceptable does nothing but promote more theft.
I certainly don't want to see anyone jailed over snagging a toaster at Walmart, but there needs to be consequences. A fine equal to twice the value of the stolen goods would be a good start, or community service work if the perp is broke.

But you don’t really care about crime

 

[Brainonska511]

But you don’t really care about crime

You might say that Greenman has a very colored perception about crimes that matter and crimes that don't matter. It's almost back and white.

 

[brycejones]

Honestly, my immediate instinct when someone is stealing food is to have sympathy with the person who needs to steal food.

This, not they should be shot.

 

[Amused]

So why do Lowes and Home Depot have entire isles under lock and key?
Theft is theft. Steal a dollar or steal a thousand dollars, it's the exact same crime. The idea that theft is acceptable does nothing but promote more theft.
I certainly don't want to see anyone jailed over snagging a toaster at Walmart, but there needs to be consequences. A fine equal to twice the value of the stolen goods would be a good start, or community service work if the perp is broke.

When did I say it shouldn't be a crime?

I simply proved it is NOT the level of economic problem people have been made to believe it is, nor has it dramatically increased as people have been made to believe it has.

Stores lock up items for the same reason kids don't play outside or walk to school like they used to: Perception rather than actual increases in crimes.

 

[Greenman]

But you don’t really care about crime

Damn I'm deep in your head. Your need to contradict every word I say is bordering on an obsession, let it go, you'll feel better.

 

[WelshBloke]

This crap probably doesn't help either!

Income Inequality - Inequality.org

Inequality in earnings between America's most affluent and the rest of the country continue to grow year after year.

inequality.org

 

[ch33zw1z]

Damn I'm deep in your head. Your need to contradict every word I say is bordering on an obsession, let it go, you'll feel better.

Approved

https://imgur.com/hL1sN8x

 

[Indus]

Honestly, my immediate instinct when someone is stealing food is to have sympathy with the person who needs to steal food.

Even if they are dressed better than your wife with more expensive clothes and have expensive handbags?

Why shoot them dead when we can just cut off their hands? 😬

Maybe not at the first offense but that's exactly what we need to do to the people that commit recidivisim. instead of allow 50+ crimes by the same person. Recidivism is a huge problem.

And I would love nothing better than cutting off both their hands and their benefits for the rest of their life. More benefits left for the rest of us who actually believe in the system..

These criminals can go join the Republican party. Maybe they'll find more love there with other criminals.

 

[manly]

Imagine thinking retail doesn't survive in America mostly because of theft while ignoring the myriad of other factors involved - you know - such as ONLINE SHOPPING WITH LOWER PRICES, skyrocketing rents, and other such things.

This is just a playbook from the right wing propaganda machine. it's the blue collar criminals destroying America, one shoplift at a time!

Oy. Stop thinking so small.

Where's your evidence that he's thinking at all?

 

[Indus]

Where's your evidence that he's thinking at all?

Actually I've been liberated by thinking..

Dems are fucking stupid and take advantage of the galactically stupid.

As right as the dems are and as wrong as MAGA are on issues I care about, the dems aren’t smart enough to band together to hold a unified front on so much. Just look at sticking behind Biden over Gaza.. they couldn't do it.

They are fighting over the peas and carrots and forgot about the steak. MAGA is playing the long game or we’re up until they dominated the Supreme Court.

I want both sides to work for my vote rather than one assuming they don’t have it and one assuming I’m a slam dunk.

And until I get my medicare for all on the ballot from 95% of dems, you fucking dems are on your own!

And manly and every douchebag here can enjoy fucking donating to these clowns if they wish while getting laughed at by the consultants as they make off with millions you paid for and got NOTHING IN RETURN!

Not even protection against the shopping cart mafia!
Not even protection against migrant gangs!
Not even protection on the subway!

So fuck you dem party while you take me for granted.

Fuck you Mayor Adams.
Fuck you Kathy Hochul.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Even if they are dressed better than your wife with more expensive clothes and have expensive handbags?



Maybe not at the first offense but that's exactly what we need to do to the people that commit recidivisim. instead of allow 50+ crimes by the same person. Recidivism is a huge problem.

And I would love nothing better than cutting off both their hands and their benefits for the rest of their life. More benefits left for the rest of us who actually believe in the system..

These criminals can go join the Republican party. Maybe they'll find more love there with other criminals.

Theocracy you desire may just bring you the joy you’re missing

 

[ch33zw1z]

Actually I've been liberated by thinking..

Dems are fucking stupid and take advantage of the galactically stupid.

As right as the dems are and as wrong as MAGA are on issues I care about, the dems aren’t smart enough to band together to hold a unified front on so much. Just look at sticking behind Biden over Gaza.. they couldn't do it.

They are fighting over the peas and carrots and forgot about the steak. MAGA is playing the long game or we’re up until they dominated the Supreme Court.

I want both sides to work for my vote rather than one assuming they don’t have it and one assuming I’m a slam dunk.

And until I get my medicare for all on the ballot from 95% of dems, you fucking dems are on your own!

And manly and every douchebag here can enjoy fucking donating to these clowns if they wish while getting laughed at by the consultants as they make off with millions you paid for and got NOTHING IN RETURN!

Not even protection against the shopping cart mafia!
Not even protection against migrant gangs!
Not even protection on the subway!

So fuck you dem party while you take me for granted.

Fuck you Mayor Adams.
Fuck you Kathy Hochul.

I’m not quite sure your claim of being liberated by thinking is working out the way you think it is

 

[Indus]

Theocracy you desire may just bring you the joy you’re missing

Who said I want theocracy?

I’m not quite sure your claim of being liberated by thinking is working out the way you think it is

I've learned one thing from dems saying "fuck joe biden" and scuttling his chances...

These dems or the climate activists.. gaza activists.. black lives matter.. lgbt community.. abortion activists.. and others.. they won't lift a finger to help me if Trump decides to cancel our citizenship and has us deported.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Who said I want theocracy?



I've learned one thing from dems saying "fuck joe biden" and scuttling his chances...

These dems or the climate activists.. gaza activists.. black lives matter.. lgbt community.. abortion activists.. and others.. they won't lift a finger to help me if Trump decides to cancel our citizenship and has us deported.

What culture is cutting off peoples hands for stealing other than theocracies? Your best bet to getting what you want is to jump on the Christian nationalist bandwagon that’s going on in the US right now. I mean, I thought u were thinking 🤔

What do you think the Dems should do to protect people from being deported?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Theft is such a huge growing issue that continues to be ignored. Property owners need more rights not only to defend themselves but also their property. Using force should be allowed, and if deadly force is what it takes to stop them, that should be allowed too. Taking other people's stuff should not be accepted period and the minute they are there to cause damage, they should have no rights. They chose to steal, choices have consequences.

In my city it's gotten so bad that they just raid stores and take what they want while laughing at the staff knowing they can't do anything. They also break in constantly into homes and small businesses, some of which have been forced to wall in their storefront windows since their insurance would no longer cover them. Each time this happens it costs them thousands in damages, it's a piss off that they are on the hook to deal with this, while the thieves continue to get away with it because of the catch and release program and fact that owners can't really even do anything if they catch them. We all pay for this via higher insurance premiums and higher price of goods. A single break in is basically undoing a month's earnings for a small business. Most small businesses are running on very thin margins by the time all the bills are paid.

They've also been aggressivly going after telecom infrastructure to steal copper and have caused small towns to be isolated by cutting main fibre feeds. I lost count of how many times it's happened on my own shift. I see the alarms right away, the last time the techs I called out even caught them in the act but they ran off. Not like they could have legally done anything anyway. As far as I'm concerned they should be charged for domestic terrorism, on top of theft. Some of this is even happening on railroad property as the fibre runs along the tracks, surely that's a federal crime to be messing around on that property. But liberals don't care, these people seem to have more rights than rest of us.

This is one interview with a local shop owner, It's a real issue, but liberals continue to ignore it.

 

[manly]

This crap probably doesn't help either!

Income Inequality - Inequality.org

Inequality in earnings between America's most affluent and the rest of the country continue to grow year after year.

inequality.org

The people elected Trump to fix that, stat. They say he's "good at business." 🤣

 

[Indus]

What culture is cutting off peoples hands for stealing other than theocracies?

Strawman.. not what I said.

 

[DisarmedDespot]

What culture is cutting off peoples hands for stealing other than theocracies? Your best bet to getting what you want is to jump on the Christian nationalist bandwagon that’s going on in the US right now. I mean, I thought u were thinking 🤔

What do you think the Dems should do to protect people from being deported?

I dunno why you bother arguing with this guy. He claims he's several planets to the left of everyone else, but has internalized damn near all the Republican talking points and unironically regurgitates them constantly.

 

[cytg111]

Why shoot them dead when we can just cut off their hands? 😬

This is only funny cause Indus used the love emo... Jesus Christ of Bethlehem proverbial points going wooooosh ... or did it?

 

[cytg111]

Strawman.. not what I said.

Ah you already hashing it out

 

[cytg111]

Damn I'm deep in your head. Your need to contradict every word I say is bordering on an obsession, let it go, you'll feel better.

This guy is not deep in anything of anything, if his wife is getting it its not from him.

 

[cytg111]

Theft is such a huge growing issue that continues to be ignored. Property owners need more rights not only to defend themselves but also their property. Using force should be allowed, and if deadly force is what it takes to stop them, that should be allowed too. Taking other people's stuff should not be accepted period and the minute they are there to cause damage, they should have no rights. They chose to steal, choices have consequences.

In my city it's gotten so bad that they just raid stores and take what they want while laughing at the staff knowing they can't do anything. They also break in constantly into homes and small businesses, some of which have been forced to wall in their storefront windows since their insurance would no longer cover them. Each time this happens it costs them thousands in damages, it's a piss off that they are on the hook to deal with this, while the thieves continue to get away with it because of the catch and release program and fact that owners can't really even do anything if they catch them. We all pay for this via higher insurance premiums and higher price of goods. A single break in is basically undoing a month's earnings for a small business. Most small businesses are running on very thin margins by the time all the bills are paid.

They've also been aggressivly going after telecom infrastructure to steal copper and have caused small towns to be isolated by cutting main fibre feeds. I lost count of how many times it's happened on my own shift. I see the alarms right away, the last time the techs I called out even caught them in the act but they ran off. Not like they could have legally done anything anyway. As far as I'm concerned they should be charged for domestic terrorism, on top of theft. Some of this is even happening on railroad property as the fibre runs along the tracks, surely that's a federal crime to be messing around on that property. But liberals don't care, these people seem to have more rights than rest of us.

This is one interview with a local shop owner, It's a real issue, but liberals continue to ignore it.

Thats the same story as last time you got fucking hand fed the facts. The fuck are you doing? Are you beating your meat when you get roasted for stupidity online? I have not signed that consent form!!!

 

[Indus]

Ah you already hashing it out

big difference inbetween stealing fruit and stealing billions.

I didn't say cut hands over some fruit but more over career criminals.

There was a guy here named Bill Bratton who instituted "Broken Windows" and crime went down.. stayed down till the dems undid it.. and now we're in a mess where people don't buy the stats of "crime is down".