This is why Israel is awesome

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
i think israel is the best army for its size. if u shrunk the US to its size and had the it surrounded by its enemies from EVERY side the US would never make it. look at the six day war, its name explains it all they won a WAR(emphasizing the word war) in six days and had the possibility to destroy Cairo and Damuscus if they had the order to. some say they one it in 6 hours because the destroyed the egyptian air force before the planes left the ground. and on top of that during the independence war a bunch of non-trained holocaust survivers defeated 7 arab army nations. they had little ammo, guns, planes, tanks, or anything. but guess what they still are here even though the arab nations yelled out to the world that they will wipe out israel from the face of the earth.

If you shrunk the US to that size, Israel wouldn't make it, either. They depend on massive US assistance.

Shush. What does rationality have to do with anything?

 

[Aimster]

IMO this is what the M.E/Parts of Asia Look like:

Israel /Turkey> Egypt /Pakistan> Iran > Saudi Arabia > Syria > UAE > Kuwait

Then if you extend beyond that region, Turkey/Israel will move back.

Of course this is all my opinion.

inventory army size / tech

real-world experience is another story.

 

[Aimster]

so for those of u still reading this thread... let's turn it interesting:

Pics of Israel's recent tank exercise near the Syrian border. I believe these were taken this week
http://www.hnn.co.il/index.php?module=albums;task=view;id=2337

Beautiful tanks.

South Korea's New Tank:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ1seG7MHZU
That thing looks like a monster!

Turkey's New Tank:
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/9609/tara0002oi9ag0ep4.jpg
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9632/tank1un7.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9043/tara0001if9hv2yw1.jpg

Looks like they modified the Israeli tank. Badass still.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
i think israel is the best army for its size. if u shrunk the US to its size and had the it surrounded by its enemies from EVERY side the US would never make it. look at the six day war, its name explains it all they won a WAR(emphasizing the word war) in six days and had the possibility to destroy Cairo and Damuscus if they had the order to. some say they one it in 6 hours because the destroyed the egyptian air force before the planes left the ground. and on top of that during the independence war a bunch of non-trained holocaust survivers defeated 7 arab army nations. they had little ammo, guns, planes, tanks, or anything. but guess what they still are here even though the arab nations yelled out to the world that they will wipe out israel from the face of the earth.

If you shrunk the US to that size, Israel wouldn't make it, either. They depend on massive US assistance.

Actually, Israel's most stunning achievments were made before the US starting giving massive assistence. The US did not give massive grants until after 1973. Before then it was loans which Israel repaid.

In 1951, Congress voted to help Israel cope with the economic burdens imposed by the influx of Jewish refugees from the displaced persons camps in Europe and from the ghettos of the Arab countries. Arabs then complained the U.S. was neglecting them, though they had no interest in or use for American aid then. In 1951, Syria rejected offers of U.S. aid. Oil-rich Iraq and Saudi Arabia did not need U.S. economic assistance, and Jordan was, until the late 1950s, the ward of Great Britain. After 1957, when the United States assumed responsibility for supporting Jordan and resumed economic aid to Egypt, assistance to the Arab states soared. Also, the United States was by far the biggest contributor of aid to the Palestinians through UNRWA, a status that continues to the present.

U.S. economic grants to Israel ended in 1959. U.S. aid to Israel from then until 1985 consisted largely of loans, which Israel repaid, and surplus commodities, which Israel bought. Israel began buying arms from the United States in 1962, but did not receive any grant military assistance until after the 1973 Yom Kippur War. As a result, Israel had to go deeply into debt to finance its economic development and arms procurement. The decision to convert military aid to grants that year was based on the prevailing view in Congress that without a strong Israel, war in the Middle East was more likely, and that the U.S. would face higher direct expenditures in such an eventuality.

Israel has received more direct aid from the United States since World War II than any other country, but the amounts for the first half of this period were relatively small. Between 1949 and 1973, the U.S. provided Israel with an average of about $122 million a year, a total of $3.1 billion (and actually more than $1 billion of that was loans for military equipment in 1971-73) . Prior to 1971, Israel received a total of only $277 million in military aid, all in the form of loans as credit sales. The bulk of the economic aid was also lent to Israel. By comparison, the Arab states received nearly three times as much aid before 1971, $4.4 billion, or $170 million per year. Moreover, unlike Israel, which receives nearly all its aid from the United States, Arab nations have gotten assistance from Asia, Eastern Europe, the Soviet Union and the European Community. Congress first designated a specific amount of aid for Israel (an "earmark") in 1971.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/foreign_aid.html

 

[toolboxolio]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
<= Pokes head in suspecting this has turned into an Israel policy-bashing thread...and roger...

I was seriously hoping it would turn into more hottie israeli women pic thread.

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: toolboxolio

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
<= Pokes head in suspecting this has turned into an Israel policy-bashing thread...and roger...

I was seriously hoping it would turn into more hottie israeli women pic thread.

If it's of any consequence, the Israel-has-the-best-army-in-the-world people started it. lol

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
i think israel is the best army for its size. if u shrunk the US to its size and had the it surrounded by its enemies from EVERY side the US would never make it. look at the six day war, its name explains it all they won a WAR(emphasizing the word war) in six days and had the possibility to destroy Cairo and Damuscus if they had the order to. some say they one it in 6 hours because the destroyed the egyptian air force before the planes left the ground. and on top of that during the independence war a bunch of non-trained holocaust survivers defeated 7 arab army nations. they had little ammo, guns, planes, tanks, or anything. but guess what they still are here even though the arab nations yelled out to the world that they will wipe out israel from the face of the earth.

If you shrunk the US to that size, Israel wouldn't make it, either. They depend on massive US assistance.

Exactly!

 

[KMFJD]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: mrkun

Originally posted by: Amused
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Go look for expert opinions on the Israeli army. Get educated on it's history, training and accomplishments. There is a reason why most military experts regard the Israeli army as the best there is. Find out why.

You're wrapped up in debating me and missing out on real knowledge here.

Link?

Btw, in how many threads have we debated during the past month? lol

Why should I do your homework?

Google is your friend. Seriously, study up on it. The Israeli army is fascinating.

How is the Israeli military better than let's say ...

Greece/Turkey
?

? Nuclear Weapons?

 

[AntareStar]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran is not an Arab nation

so... ehhemmm

You're right, they're not Arab, Iran is a terrorist nation.
But I suppose that since some of the biggest terrorists in the world like Al-Quaida, Hizzbulla and Hamas are Arabs people link Iran which is the biggest terrorist country in the world to Arabs.
That said you should also remember that Iran is a Muslim country which is controlled by a fanatic regime that is another Arab attribute.

 

[AntareStar]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Why is Iran trying to kill Israel?
There is no evidence Iran wishes to destroy Israel.

I'm getting tempted to say that there's also no evidence that you have a brain. But we still all assume you do. Even though sometimes it doesn't really seem like you're capable of operating it very successfully.

I so hope I'm not getting banned for that, but seriously dude, some of the remarks you make are preposterous, and have nothing to do with reality. No personal harm is meant.

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: AntareStar

Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran is not an Arab nation

so... ehhemmm

You're right, they're not Arab, Iran is a terrorist nation.
But I suppose that since some of the biggest terrorists in the world like Al-Quaida, Hizzbulla and Hamas are Arabs people link Iran which is the biggest terrorist country in the world to Arabs.
That said you should also remember that Iran is a Muslim country which is controlled by a fanatic regime that is another Arab attribute.

Says the guy from Israel.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: AntareStar
You're right, they're not Arab, Iran is a terrorist nation.
But I suppose that since some of the biggest terrorists in the world like Al-Quaida, Hizzbulla and Hamas are Arabs people link Iran which is the biggest terrorist country in the world to Arabs.
That said you should also remember that Iran is a Muslim country which is controlled by a fanatic regime that is another Arab attribute.

I'm getting tempted to say that there's also no evidence that you have a brain. But we still all assume you do. Even though sometimes it doesn't really seem like you're capable of operating it very successfully.

I so hope I'm not getting banned for that, but seriously dude, some of the remarks you make are preposterous, and have nothing to do with reality. No personal harm is meant.

That's your opinion, and you have to understand, some of us hold your posts in the same light. Your claims of Iran being the source of all evil in the world are just as fanatical.

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: toolboxolio

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
<= Pokes head in suspecting this has turned into an Israel policy-bashing thread...and roger...

I was seriously hoping it would turn into more hottie israeli women pic thread.

no kidding. i demand more hot jewish girls!!!

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
1

Who is she and why isn't she on my lap?

 

[Canai]

Cool.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: AntareStar

Originally posted by: Aimster
Why is Iran trying to kill Israel?
There is no evidence Iran wishes to destroy Israel.

I'm getting tempted to say that there's also no evidence that you have a brain. But we still all assume you do. Even though sometimes it doesn't really seem like you're capable of operating it very successfully.

I so hope I'm not getting banned for that, but seriously dude, some of the remarks you make are preposterous, and have nothing to do with reality. No personal harm is meant.

Then prove it.
Can you prove it?

NO, you cannot.

What evidence are you going to present to me? The Iranian President's "I wish to wipe the Israeli regime off the map" comment? U.S wishes to wipe the Iranian regime off the map as well.

Are u going to bring up Hezbollah which Iran arms with weapons that are not even capable of destroying Israel? Iran has chemical weapons. Why does Hezbollah not have them?
U.S gave a terrorist supporting nation chemical weapons to destroy Iran.
Who is acting in a more civilized manner in that regard?

What else can u bring up? You mean their pursuit for nuclear energy? Iran exports 4mbpd of Oil and imports another 2mbpd of their own oil. In the 1970s the U.S had contracts out for 20+ nuclear reactors to be built inside Iran. The West was behind Iran then and Iran had 1/3 of the population and 100% more oil revenue (6-7mbpd oil exports).

yes I am far from reality. let's see you put me in my place.

 

[mrkun]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
1

Who is she and why isn't she on my lap?

Because you're not Jewish.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: AntareStar

Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran is not an Arab nation

so... ehhemmm

You're right, they're not Arab, Iran is a terrorist nation.
But I suppose that since some of the biggest terrorists in the world like Al-Quaida, Hizzbulla and Hamas are Arabs people link Iran which is the biggest terrorist country in the world to Arabs.
That said you should also remember that Iran is a Muslim country which is controlled by a fanatic regime that is another Arab attribute.

If Iran is a terrorist nation for giving small arms to Hezbollah to fight an occupying force

What is the U.S who allowed Iraq to acquire chemical weapons and gave them the tools to deliver such weapons in their illegal war with Iran? Keep in mind Iraq was on the U.S State Department's list of terrorist nations and was only removed for a second so they could "legally" obtain such weapons.

Iran never supported Al-Qaeda. You are one of those people who thinks Iraq had something to do with 9/11 , aren't you?

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
i think israel is the best army for its size. if u shrunk the US to its size and had the it surrounded by its enemies from EVERY side the US would never make it. look at the six day war, its name explains it all they won a WAR(emphasizing the word war) in six days and had the possibility to destroy Cairo and Damuscus if they had the order to. some say they one it in 6 hours because the destroyed the egyptian air force before the planes left the ground. and on top of that during the independence war a bunch of non-trained holocaust survivers defeated 7 arab army nations. they had little ammo, guns, planes, tanks, or anything. but guess what they still are here even though the arab nations yelled out to the world that they will wipe out israel from the face of the earth.

If you shrunk the US to that size, Israel wouldn't make it, either. They depend on massive US assistance.

so do the arabs they rely on ussr helping

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: AntareStar

Originally posted by: Aimster
Iran is not an Arab nation

so... ehhemmm

You're right, they're not Arab, Iran is a terrorist nation.
But I suppose that since some of the biggest terrorists in the world like Al-Quaida, Hizzbulla and Hamas are Arabs people link Iran which is the biggest terrorist country in the world to Arabs.
That said you should also remember that Iran is a Muslim country which is controlled by a fanatic regime that is another Arab attribute.

If Iran is a terrorist nation for giving small arms to Hezbollah to fight an occupying force

What is the U.S who allowed Iraq to acquire chemical weapons and gave them the tools to deliver such weapons in their illegal war with Iran? Keep in mind Iraq was on the U.S State Department's list of terrorist nations and was only removed for a second so they could "legally" obtain such weapons.

Iran never supported Al-Qaeda. You are one of those people who thinks Iraq had something to do with 9/11 , aren't you?

Iraq was a county fighting a war and Hezbollah is a terrorist organization targeting civilians?

Ya know, you'd think after getting owned once in this thread and bowing out for a week or so you'd give up. But no... you're back in here thinking no one will see the previous posts exposing your bullsh!t propaganda for what it is.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Aimster


yes I am far from reality. let's see you put me in my place.

That's already been done. The only one who can't see it is you.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: freshgeardude

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
i think israel is the best army for its size. if u shrunk the US to its size and had the it surrounded by its enemies from EVERY side the US would never make it. look at the six day war, its name explains it all they won a WAR(emphasizing the word war) in six days and had the possibility to destroy Cairo and Damuscus if they had the order to. some say they one it in 6 hours because the destroyed the egyptian air force before the planes left the ground. and on top of that during the independence war a bunch of non-trained holocaust survivers defeated 7 arab army nations. they had little ammo, guns, planes, tanks, or anything. but guess what they still are here even though the arab nations yelled out to the world that they will wipe out israel from the face of the earth.

If you shrunk the US to that size, Israel wouldn't make it, either. They depend on massive US assistance.

so do the arabs they rely on ussr helping

The USSR hasn't helped anybody in quite a long time, lol

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: freshgeardude

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: freshgeardude
i think israel is the best army for its size. if u shrunk the US to its size and had the it surrounded by its enemies from EVERY side the US would never make it. look at the six day war, its name explains it all they won a WAR(emphasizing the word war) in six days and had the possibility to destroy Cairo and Damuscus if they had the order to. some say they one it in 6 hours because the destroyed the egyptian air force before the planes left the ground. and on top of that during the independence war a bunch of non-trained holocaust survivers defeated 7 arab army nations. they had little ammo, guns, planes, tanks, or anything. but guess what they still are here even though the arab nations yelled out to the world that they will wipe out israel from the face of the earth.

If you shrunk the US to that size, Israel wouldn't make it, either. They depend on massive US assistance.

so do the arabs they rely on ussr helping

The USSR hasn't helped anybody in quite a long time, lol

Way to miss your own point.

At the time in question he was speaking about in the post you replied to, the USSR was funding the Arab nations at a rate many times higher than the US was funding Israel. The bulk of US aid came AFTER the 6 day war.

 

[mrkun]

I thought this thread had died. /sigh

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Aimster


yes I am far from reality. let's see you put me in my place.

That's already been done. The only one who can't see it is you.

o yea how?
Nobody in here has posted any facts to go against anything I said.

If so show it.