This is why I shoot .45 ACP now

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randalee

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I did about 5-10 minutes of warming up on both my 9mm and .45 ACP pistols. Just to make sure I was shooting both to the best of my ability, and to make sure my body was loose and ready.

I taped two targets side by side and ran the shuttle back 20 feet. I had two full magazines ready for both my 9mm and my .45 ACP. The idea was to empty both magazines of 9mm into one target, and both magazines of .45 ACP into the other. I put 12 rounds in all four magazines.

First I shot the 9mm.
http://www.commbloc.net/handyrandyrc/images/9mm20feet.jpg

And then the .45 ACP.
http://www.commbloc.net/handyrandyrc/images/45acp20feet.jpg

Never you mind the .22 LR holes in the .45 target. I had a range goon a couple of lanes down shooting at my target.
 
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jtusa

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Was your stance identical when shooting both pistols?
Same rate of fire each time?
How similar are the pistols in weight and size when loaded?

All of these things can affect your accuracy.
 
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Viper GTS

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What exactly does this have to do with ammo? Other than the .45 holes being bigger?

Viper GTS
 
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gooseman

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I think he is just saying that he shoots the 45 because thats what he shoots best.
 
Babbles

Babbles

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As is my understanding the 45 APC is considered to be far more accurate than a 9mm.
 
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randalee

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Same stance, a standard Weaver stance, and rate of fire was pretty much the same. As soon as I was able to re-acquire the target, I fired again. So a slow, but steady pace. One shot every 1-2 seconds. Guns are close in weight -- the .45 has an extra inch of barrel (minor cheat there). From just my general "feeling" while shooting, it's MUCH more comfortable to shoot the .45. The recoil is not quite as "snappy" and violent. More of a slow push. I realize velocity is MUCH different on these rounds, but I certainly do shoot the .45 better.

I honestly don't believe the .45 is just more accurate in general -- I think they are both accurate rounds. I just shoot one better than the other.

124 grain HPs in the 9mm and 230 grain HPs in the .45 ACP.
 
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chcarnage

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You shot indoor, so the aerodynamics of the projectiles should not matter? Maybe your guns differ in recoil or general precision?
 
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OrganizedChaos

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Originally posted by: chcarnage
You shot indoor, so the aerodynamics of the projectiles should not matter? Maybe your guns differ in recoil or general precision?
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he shot indoors, not in space.
 
Unheard

Unheard

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
Originally posted by: chcarnage
You shot indoor, so the aerodynamics of the projectiles should not matter? Maybe your guns differ in recoil or general precision?
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he shot indoors, not in space.
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You mean you dont have the anti-gravity vacuum ranges in your town?
 
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jemcam

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That has less to do with inherent accuracy of each caliber than it does with differences in the weapon itself. I could do the same thing with a $1000.00 match grade 9mm vs. a worn out M1911 .45.

That being said, I prefer .45 over 9mm because I want the knock down power. I have an m1911 for home defense. I know the limitations of the weapon though. I don't expect or want to use it as self defense at ranges greater than 15 feet or less. Anything further away than that is not really self-defense, is it?
 
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gsellis

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Waits til he is holding the 9mm.... CHARGE! ;)

The AGP probably just fits you better. That or the 9 is a really bad gun. And yes, the 45 was created because the 38s at the turn of the century had no stopping power.
 
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LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: Unheard
Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
Originally posted by: chcarnage
You shot indoor, so the aerodynamics of the projectiles should not matter? Maybe your guns differ in recoil or general precision?
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he shot indoors, not in space.
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You mean you dont have the anti-gravity vacuum ranges in your town?
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Man, they just put one in here, and I tell you it's fvcking tough to hold your breath in a vacuum while your blood is boiling out of your eyes and you're floating around trying to fire a .45.
 
Fern

Fern

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Originally posted by: randalee
Anyone else do much shooting?
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Yeah, I target shoot when I can. It used to be a lot more often than now.

I've got 2 x .22 rifles. One's a cowboy leverage action, the other's a bolt action with a scope.

3 x .22 pistols. 2 are colt knock-offs 7" barrels (really quite accurate) and a Barreta semi auto.

2 x Colt revolvers (Kning Cobra snubby and a beautiful Python 5") .357 mag

A Moisin Nagant, old war rifle with a brutal kick (Having trouble remember the caliber, it's a pretty large shell)

A 30-30 Winchester, never fired. It's an older collector edition/peice.

Have enjoyed trying out friends' guns, like Glocks, AK's etc.

I prefer to shoot outdoors when possible, but have been to the indoor range.

I don't hunt, just target practice.

EDIT: Forgot to add my .38spc S&W Police Chief Special. It's a good CC weapon.

Fern
 
JulesMaximus

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: jtusa
Was your stance identical when shooting both pistols?
Same rate of fire each time?
How similar are the pistols in weight and size when loaded?

All of these things can affect your accuracy.
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So does barrel length and what kind of sights you have on each gun.
 
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DeadByDawn

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: jtusa
Was your stance identical when shooting both pistols?
Same rate of fire each time?
How similar are the pistols in weight and size when loaded?

All of these things can affect your accuracy.
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So does barrel length and what kind of sights you have on each gun.
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ammo quality too
 
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gsellis

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Originally posted by: Fern
A Moisin Nagant, old war rifle with a brutal kick (Having trouble remember the caliber, it's a pretty large shell)
Fern
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I think that one is 7.62 or .308.
 
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AgentJean

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That make guns were you shooting?
If your using a 9mm hi-point and a H&K .45 yes there will be differences in how well you shoot.

If your using a Hi-point, your lucky you didn't have any KB problems. :p
 
K1052

K1052

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Originally posted by: gsellis
Originally posted by: Fern
A Moisin Nagant, old war rifle with a brutal kick (Having trouble remember the caliber, it's a pretty large shell)
Fern
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I think that one is 7.62 or .308.
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specifically 7.62x54r
 
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jtvang125

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The 9mm still looks accurate enough to kill someone judging from those shots. I wouldn't feel outgunned with one.
 
Fern

Fern

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: gsellis
Originally posted by: Fern
A Moisin Nagant, old war rifle with a brutal kick (Having trouble remember the caliber, it's a pretty large shell)
Fern
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I think that one is 7.62 or .308.
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specifically 7.62x54r
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Bingo! That's it. ^ Thanks guys.

Fern
 
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