This is why I fear for the future of our nation

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
His grammer is bad, but he has the right idea. Anyone who truly loves God would vote for the president.

grammar*

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Stonewall
The past few days have seen family members turning on themselves. (I'm thinking of McOwen's thread about 2nd cousins of the President announcing their support for Kerry.) Love seems about to be completely overtaken by selfishness! :frown:

It's just really bitter this year. The whole country is divided into this Coke vs. Pepsi argument, with hardly anyone noticing that they're both cola drinks that taste about the same and rot your teeth.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Vic
It's just really bitter this year. The whole country is divided into this Coke vs. Pepsi argument, with hardly anyone noticing that they're both cola drinks that taste about the same and rot your teeth.

Thats about the best synopsis I've heard on this election.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: conjur


Who are you suppporting (Christ) or (Satan) Accuser of the Brethren.

I choose Christ, and down with the political agenda of Satan!

And people wonder why such a miserable failure like Bush can still be sitting tied in the polls? It's because of brainwashed sheep like this.[/quote]

If he is right and you are wrong, his after-life will be much more pleasant than yours.

If you are right and he is wrong, your fear will consume you and his faith will comfort him.

Whatever.....

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Ozoned
If you are right and he is wrong, your fear will consume you and his faith will comfort him.

Whatever.....

Ah yes, ignorance is bliss.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Gee, if there is an afterlife, some of you guys are going to be bored to death (pun intended). I can see the heavenly forum now:

angel #1 - Today is a perfect day. Just like yesterday. Just like tomorrow will be.

angel #2 - :thumbsup:

angel #3 - :thumbsup:

angel #4 - :thumbsup:


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.
.
.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: conjur

Who are you suppporting (Christ) or (Satan) Accuser of the Brethren.

I choose Christ, and down with the political agenda of Satan!

And people wonder why such a miserable failure like Bush can still be sitting tied in the polls? It's because of brainwashed sheep like this.

If he is right and you are wrong, his after-life will be much more pleasant than yours.

If you are right and he is wrong, your fear will consume you and his faith will comfort him.

Whatever.....

Sorry, I'm not taking part in Pascal's Wager.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: conjur
The following is a response from someone in my family re:the website I put together (link in my sig).

Nice site, btw.

Thanks. I've just added more information based on the news from the last couple of days.

And, to those who think this was a low-blow for me to post this email, I could have posted his name and more information from his email but I didn't. And, fwiw, he and I still get along rather well. 🙂

 

[phantom309]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: conjur


Who are you suppporting (Christ) or (Satan) Accuser of the Brethren.

I choose Christ, and down with the political agenda of Satan!

And people wonder why such a miserable failure like Bush can still be sitting tied in the polls? It's because of brainwashed sheep like this.

If he is right and you are wrong, his after-life will be much more pleasant than yours.

If you are right and he is wrong, your fear will consume you and his faith will comfort him.

Whatever.....
[/quote]He may be comfortable; he'll still be wrong. But you don't really care about that, do you?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: conjur
The following is a response from someone in my family re:the website I put together (link in my sig). He's a big-time Fund-A-Mental and Evangelical. Although, I think you can kind of pick up on it a bit:

Like I said and will say it again, We have alot of Greed in our society, and
what a convient time as this for something that may have been unprotected
for many months. Believe it or not they have been in possesion of other high
explosive units. Al-Queda Attack the US...What do you call those planes that
crashed and killed many of lives, The root problem was terroist and that's
what we are fighting for today! Open your eyes to the fact that the
Terroist play by different rules, they are looking at the spitual picture in
which they say it's by GOD! And God is not a destroyer of lives but a
forgiver to the sinner who has turned from the ways of the truth, and
followed the ways of the FLESH, and abandoned the values in which GOD
founded and not MAN!

We are the protector of Israel, and the bible says, blessed are the
protectors of Israel.

And it does matter to what happened with those in vietnam because it goes
to show that, we cannot blame a president for the Moral standards of those
who have free will, God calls the sinner to repentance not man! The
wickedness of our own people did that because they have free will and that's
what was in their hearts.


And as far as the Moral Standards of President Bush, is that a man who can
Publicly say that he has faith in a much higher person that himself,
recognize Christ as the one in charge of his life, support faith based
programs and give people hope through them, and turned from moral
corruption( he was an alcoholic). Although not perfect because all have
fallen short of the Glory of God! is definately a Born again Christian
believer!

But, Kerry who opposes- passage of the federal marriage protection
amendment, no repsonse - on unrestricted abortion on demand, opposes
permanent elimination of the marriage penalty tax, opposes- banning partial
birth abortions, and who supports public financing of abortions, no response
to adoption of children by homosexuals,suppports- drugs companies benefits,
and opposes allowing younger workers to invest a portion of their social
security tax in a private account!

Take the Blinders off! Kerry is setting the Country up for the FAll, driven
by the Wickness of man! (satan Himself). God's name would be stricken off
every aspect of our lives and Christians would then have no Freedom to
Worship as we know it! Just the Homosexual agenda itself is a Eye opener to
the bigger picture that satan is trying to destroy what marriage is all
about and who made it!

Who are you suppporting (Christ) or (Satan) Accuser of the Brethren.

I choose Christ, and down with the political agenda of Satan!

And people wonder why such a miserable failure like Bush can still be sitting tied in the polls? It's because of brainwashed sheep like this.

Wow, that is bad. Real bad.

But honestly Conjur, Bush is still winning/tied because Kerry is a horrible candidate, not because some of your family members are idiots.

The sad part is the Democrats have no good candidates, and the Republicans can't get their good candidates nominated.

 

[Gravity]

Some scholars believe that the covenant with Israel and God has been broken due to their failure to recognize his Son's divinity.

Those same scholars beleive that the covenant with Israel will resume after the 2nd coming of Christ.

I'm not sure either way but it seems like the jews have been persecuted throughout history as they rebelled against God. ARe we blessed as a nation because we have provided them with support?

I think a better question is, are their enemies plagued because of their opposition? Perhaps. The PLO continues to strap plastique to it's children and fights a losing battle.

I think if God were firmly against them they would be routed and exterminated in pretty quick fashion. Or, perhaps the Israelis suffered the fate of the tribe of Dan who, when entering the promised land, failed to kill all the inhabitants as instructed. The tribe of Dan has not been heard from since.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Wow, that is bad. Real bad.

But honestly Conjur, Bush is still winning/tied because Kerry is a horrible candidate, not because some of your family members are idiots.

The sad part is the Democrats have no good candidates, and the Republicans can't get their good candidates nominated.

I don't agree Kerry is a horrible candidate. I know he's not the best the DNC could have offered and Kerry often has trouble making his points clear but that's only because we become attuned to soundbites and snippets. We've become lazy.

Do you think anyone like Thomas Jefferson or Abraham Lincoln would honestly get elected today?

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: conjur
The following is a response from someone in my family re:the website I put together (link in my sig). He's a big-time Fund-A-Mental and Evangelical. Although, I think you can kind of pick up on it a bit:

Like I said and will say it again, We have alot of Greed in our society, and
what a convient time as this for something that may have been unprotected
for many months. Believe it or not they have been in possesion of other high
explosive units. Al-Queda Attack the US...What do you call those planes that
crashed and killed many of lives, The root problem was terroist and that's
what we are fighting for today! Open your eyes to the fact that the
Terroist play by different rules, they are looking at the spitual picture in
which they say it's by GOD! And God is not a destroyer of lives but a
forgiver to the sinner who has turned from the ways of the truth, and
followed the ways of the FLESH, and abandoned the values in which GOD
founded and not MAN!

We are the protector of Israel, and the bible says, blessed are the
protectors of Israel.

And it does matter to what happened with those in vietnam because it goes
to show that, we cannot blame a president for the Moral standards of those
who have free will, God calls the sinner to repentance not man! The
wickedness of our own people did that because they have free will and that's
what was in their hearts.


And as far as the Moral Standards of President Bush, is that a man who can
Publicly say that he has faith in a much higher person that himself,
recognize Christ as the one in charge of his life, support faith based
programs and give people hope through them, and turned from moral
corruption( he was an alcoholic). Although not perfect because all have
fallen short of the Glory of God! is definately a Born again Christian
believer!

But, Kerry who opposes- passage of the federal marriage protection
amendment, no repsonse - on unrestricted abortion on demand, opposes
permanent elimination of the marriage penalty tax, opposes- banning partial
birth abortions, and who supports public financing of abortions, no response
to adoption of children by homosexuals,suppports- drugs companies benefits,
and opposes allowing younger workers to invest a portion of their social
security tax in a private account!

Take the Blinders off! Kerry is setting the Country up for the FAll, driven
by the Wickness of man! (satan Himself). God's name would be stricken off
every aspect of our lives and Christians would then have no Freedom to
Worship as we know it! Just the Homosexual agenda itself is a Eye opener to
the bigger picture that satan is trying to destroy what marriage is all
about and who made it!

Who are you suppporting (Christ) or (Satan) Accuser of the Brethren.

I choose Christ, and down with the political agenda of Satan!

And people wonder why such a miserable failure like Bush can still be sitting tied in the polls? It's because of brainwashed sheep like this.

Gee, lets post a (private?) email from a family member bashing them on a public forum. You are such a standup guy Conjur.. whats next, gonna rip your dying grandmother too because she supports Bush?

You guys will stop at nothing.

I wonder how this family member would feel after reading Conjob's post.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: conjur
The following is a response from someone in my family re:the website I put together (link in my sig).

Nice site, btw.

Thanks. I've just added more information based on the news from the last couple of days.

And, to those who think this was a low-blow for me to post this email, I could have posted his name and more information from his email but I didn't. And, fwiw, he and I still get along rather well. 🙂

I bet you wouldn't if he knew this thread existed. But then again, if I were you and *really* don't respect someone (as you obviously don't respect this relative), I could not care less whether or not we "get along".

 

[Grunt03]

Wow, I really think we are getting desperate.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: conjur
The following is a response from someone in my family re:the website I put together (link in my sig).

Nice site, btw.

Thanks. I've just added more information based on the news from the last couple of days.

And, to those who think this was a low-blow for me to post this email, I could have posted his name and more information from his email but I didn't. And, fwiw, he and I still get along rather well. 🙂

I bet you wouldn't if he knew this thread existed. But then again, if I were you and *really* don't respect someone (as you obviously don't respect this relative), I could not care less whether or not we "get along".

Well at least we know that Conjur isn't the only Crackpot in his family 😉

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Vic
It's just really bitter this year. The whole country is divided into this Coke vs. Pepsi argument, with hardly anyone noticing that they're both cola drinks that taste about the same and rot your teeth.

Thats about the best synopsis I've heard on this election.

That is a good analogy, however we have the opportunity to at least change cola's.

Why stay with the same Cola for a continous 8 years when you can at least have some variety???

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: daveshel

Originally posted by: conjur
The following is a response from someone in my family re:the website I put together (link in my sig).

Nice site, btw.

Thanks. I've just added more information based on the news from the last couple of days.

And, to those who think this was a low-blow for me to post this email, I could have posted his name and more information from his email but I didn't. And, fwiw, he and I still get along rather well. 🙂

Same thing here, I did not say who it is.

I think I'll post some of the e-mails too (without name of course)


BTW, that is a nice site conjur :thumbsup:

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: bamacre
Wow, that is bad. Real bad.

But honestly Conjur, Bush is still winning/tied because Kerry is a horrible candidate, not because some of your family members are idiots.

The sad part is the Democrats have no good candidates, and the Republicans can't get their good candidates nominated.

I don't agree Kerry is a horrible candidate. I know he's not the best the DNC could have offered and Kerry often has trouble making his points clear but that's only because we become attuned to soundbites and snippets. We've become lazy.

Do you think anyone like Thomas Jefferson or Abraham Lincoln would honestly get elected today?

First off, I didn't mean to knock your family (thnx for seeing it that way), we all have our whacko relatives, I know I have mine.

You know, I'm not sure as to whether someone like Jefferson or Lincoln could get elected, but only because I think they couldn't get nominated, not with this 2-party system running the entire show.

But I trully believe Kerry is a horrible candidate. He hasn't done enough to reach out to the folks on the right. And he needs to, or uh, needed to, too late now.

Bush has a done a horrible job. At everything. Period. And Kerry is still tied or losing. That's how bad of a candidate Kerry is. The really sad thing is that out of the nine or so DNC potential nominations, he was probably the best choice. That doesn't say much for the Left. And it sure as hell doesn't help those in the middle, or people like me, Republican and disgusted with Bush.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
This not news, we all know what the Fund A Mental Case Whackjob Evangelicals think. Hell we have one as President.

BTW Crimson, this not an attack on all Christians, just the extremists. The vast majority of Christians are not this looney.

But you think they are looney?

I would rather have a President like Bush who is open and consistent about his faith, as opposed to Kerry who seems to use it like a tool...just like his little hunting stint.

 

[piasabird]

I think the E-mail makes some valid points.

I beleive that the Family is the main core of any civilization and to stray from the family structure is to invite the end of our country and our civilized society.

I have one premise I truly beleive in; you can be for the family or you can be for gays but you can not be for both. They are opposed in every way.

The philosophy of the gay lifestyle is in direct opposition with the philosophy of the Family Lifestyle.

Just think it out and use pure logic.


The standard disclaimer here is that Lesbians can be artificially inseminated. (Spell)

Do we really want a world where everyone is artificially created?

Reminds me of a Science Fiction movie or something.

Next people will be suggestion that Sex is illegal and all children should be raised by robots and social pshycologists.

This is a matter of my personal opinion and my beleif in God. I have isssues with both the Republican and the Democratic candidates for president. On one hand I dislike how liberal Kerry is and the fact that he protested against the Viet Nam War and even visited the Enemy in their country and led a personal crusade against the soldiers who fought in the war. There are also 100 pages from his military records that he refused to realease to the public. I really want to know what is in his records and why his security clearance was revoked!

I also dislike the War Mongering attitude of Bush and Cheney. I think they are too arrogant, pompous and self righteous. I think they fail to admit to the American public that it was money from Saudia Arabia that financed Alquida and the destruction of the twin trade towers in New York and the attack on the pentagon itself. I would have preferred we pull out of Saudia Arabia and perhaps negotiated with some of the factions involved. This war is not changing anyone's mind in the middle east. We could have fought terrorism better through intelligence and better dilligence on our part rather than attacking a country. We could easily seek out and find and kill terrorists. Perhaps it is just wiser to let the middle eastern countries rule themselves and govern their own people. This is what Reagan did.

I find it difficult to swallow how easily a president can involve hundreds of thousands of troops in this vain attempt of establishing western values in the middle east. If we spent this much money on finding a replacement for Oil we would be living in a safer and more advanced society.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: conjur
The following is a response from someone in my family re:the website I put together (link in my sig). He's a big-time Fund-A-Mental and Evangelical. Although, I think you can kind of pick up on it a bit:

Like I said and will say it again, We have alot of Greed in our society, and
what a convient time as this for something that may have been unprotected
for many months. Believe it or not they have been in possesion of other high
explosive units. Al-Queda Attack the US...What do you call those planes that
crashed and killed many of lives, The root problem was terroist and that's
what we are fighting for today! Open your eyes to the fact that the
Terroist play by different rules, they are looking at the spitual picture in
which they say it's by GOD! And God is not a destroyer of lives but a
forgiver to the sinner who has turned from the ways of the truth, and
followed the ways of the FLESH, and abandoned the values in which GOD
founded and not MAN!

We are the protector of Israel, and the bible says, blessed are the
protectors of Israel.

And it does matter to what happened with those in vietnam because it goes
to show that, we cannot blame a president for the Moral standards of those
who have free will, God calls the sinner to repentance not man! The
wickedness of our own people did that because they have free will and that's
what was in their hearts.


And as far as the Moral Standards of President Bush, is that a man who can
Publicly say that he has faith in a much higher person that himself,
recognize Christ as the one in charge of his life, support faith based
programs and give people hope through them, and turned from moral
corruption( he was an alcoholic). Although not perfect because all have
fallen short of the Glory of God! is definately a Born again Christian
believer!

But, Kerry who opposes- passage of the federal marriage protection
amendment, no repsonse - on unrestricted abortion on demand, opposes
permanent elimination of the marriage penalty tax, opposes- banning partial
birth abortions, and who supports public financing of abortions, no response
to adoption of children by homosexuals,suppports- drugs companies benefits,
and opposes allowing younger workers to invest a portion of their social
security tax in a private account!

Take the Blinders off! Kerry is setting the Country up for the FAll, driven
by the Wickness of man! (satan Himself). God's name would be stricken off
every aspect of our lives and Christians would then have no Freedom to
Worship as we know it! Just the Homosexual agenda itself is a Eye opener to
the bigger picture that satan is trying to destroy what marriage is all
about and who made it!

Who are you suppporting (Christ) or (Satan) Accuser of the Brethren.

I choose Christ, and down with the political agenda of Satan!

And people wonder why such a miserable failure like Bush can still be sitting tied in the polls? It's because of brainwashed sheep like this.

i don't like fundies either and that guy does sound pretty brainwashed, but i could say you're pretty brainwashed as well by all the kerry rhetoric i've seen you regurgitate. i'd place you and your pal there in the same category.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: conjur
The following is a response from someone in my family re:the website I put together (link in my sig). He's a big-time Fund-A-Mental and Evangelical. Although, I think you can kind of pick up on it a bit:

Like I said and will say it again, We have alot of Greed in our society, and
what a convient time as this for something that may have been unprotected
for many months. Believe it or not they have been in possesion of other high
explosive units. Al-Queda Attack the US...What do you call those planes that
crashed and killed many of lives, The root problem was terroist and that's
what we are fighting for today! Open your eyes to the fact that the
Terroist play by different rules, they are looking at the spitual picture in
which they say it's by GOD! And God is not a destroyer of lives but a
forgiver to the sinner who has turned from the ways of the truth, and
followed the ways of the FLESH, and abandoned the values in which GOD
founded and not MAN!

We are the protector of Israel, and the bible says, blessed are the
protectors of Israel.

And it does matter to what happened with those in vietnam because it goes
to show that, we cannot blame a president for the Moral standards of those
who have free will, God calls the sinner to repentance not man! The
wickedness of our own people did that because they have free will and that's
what was in their hearts.


And as far as the Moral Standards of President Bush, is that a man who can
Publicly say that he has faith in a much higher person that himself,
recognize Christ as the one in charge of his life, support faith based
programs and give people hope through them, and turned from moral
corruption( he was an alcoholic). Although not perfect because all have
fallen short of the Glory of God! is definately a Born again Christian
believer!

But, Kerry who opposes- passage of the federal marriage protection
amendment, no repsonse - on unrestricted abortion on demand, opposes
permanent elimination of the marriage penalty tax, opposes- banning partial
birth abortions, and who supports public financing of abortions, no response
to adoption of children by homosexuals,suppports- drugs companies benefits,
and opposes allowing younger workers to invest a portion of their social
security tax in a private account!

Take the Blinders off! Kerry is setting the Country up for the FAll, driven
by the Wickness of man! (satan Himself). God's name would be stricken off
every aspect of our lives and Christians would then have no Freedom to
Worship as we know it! Just the Homosexual agenda itself is a Eye opener to
the bigger picture that satan is trying to destroy what marriage is all
about and who made it!

Who are you suppporting (Christ) or (Satan) Accuser of the Brethren.

I choose Christ, and down with the political agenda of Satan!

And people wonder why such a miserable failure like Bush can still be sitting tied in the polls? It's because of brainwashed sheep like this.

Gee, lets post a (private?) email from a family member bashing them on a public forum. You are such a standup guy Conjur.. whats next, gonna rip your dying grandmother too because she supports Bush?

You guys will stop at nothing.

And neither will your side. This is the problem we're being led around by fanatics.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
This not news, we all know what the Fund A Mental Case Whackjob Evangelicals think. Hell we have one as President.

BTW Crimson, this not an attack on all Christians, just the extremists. The vast majority of Christians are not this looney.

But you think they are looney?

I would rather have a President like Bush who is open and consistent about his faith, as opposed to Kerry who seems to use it like a tool...just like his little hunting stint.

Bush is a charlatan. That's what many Bush supporters fail to see. Bush is using his faith for political gain. Or, rather, GOP leaders have used Bush to push their fundamental Chrisitan agenda. It started in 1994 with Rove latching on to Bush for the TX Governor campaign.