This is why I don't like helicopters

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Katanand45

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I wonder if the guy to the left had to change his pants after that. The tail came mightly close to him.

It looks like the helio was trying to kill him.
 

Katanand45

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Originally posted by: Squisher
At one point that guy had perfect end-view of that rotor with him being less than ten feet from harms way.

Lucky he wasn't a zombie.

Don't you mean chopped liver? :laugh:
 

91TTZ

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What happened here is that he meant to take off, but the guilt of the environmental impact of the flight was too much for him to to bear so he landed it. He later fed himself to a whale.
 
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poor practices there, the helo never should have attempted a takeoff until both ground crew were visible and out of harms way.
 

Anubis

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its and old vid, bad weather + human mistakes on that one

if anyone watches the show called Shockwave on the history channel they may have seen the heli crash bit they had on there, ill do my best to sum up

heli guy is lifting a massive AC unit off a building id guess 50 storys, and lowering it onto a semi, im the middle of this the drive shaft for the rear rotor just fails, piolet noticed this, drops load (safeley) from ~100 feet or more, and then the heli goes into a fing dead spin because the tail rotor isnt working, he goes around about 9 times, all the while moveing the heli to the dedicated emergency crash area, in ever widening circles, he then kinda stops the heli from spinning on itself and does what i can only describe as a strange belly flop and lands the thing sorta face first into the side or a canal bank, totals the heli, and the piolet WALKS AWAY, with only minor scrapes and bruses, he comes back 2 days later with a new heli and finished the job and such
 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: Anubis
its and old vid, bad weather + human mistakes on that one

if anyone watches the show called Shockwave on the history channel they may have seen the heli crash bit they had on there, ill do my best to sum up

heli guy is lifting a massive AC unit off a building id guess 50 storys, and lowering it onto a semi, im the middle of this the drive shaft for the rear rotor just fails, piolet noticed this, drops load (safeley) from ~100 feet or more, and then the heli goes into a fing dead spin because the tail rotor isnt working, he goes around about 9 times, all the while moveing the heli to the dedicated emergency crash area, in ever widening circles, he then kinda stops the heli from spinning on itself and does what i can only describe as a strange belly flop and lands the thing sorta face first into the side or a canal bank, totals the heli, and the piolet WALKS AWAY, with only minor scrapes and bruses, he comes back 2 days later with a new heli and finished the job and such

you can control a heli without the tail rotor, it takes huge amounts of coordination and experience. Drop the load so he can back off the pitch on the main rotor (thus creating less torque). Slowly work his way over to the emergency landing area.

The plan at this point is to autorotate down. Decouple the rotor from the engine and give the main blades negative pitch. This will get the helo moving down in a hurry, but it will also create a torque around the helo in the oposite direction, and should stop or at least slow the spin. As he's falling energy is being stored in the rotation of the main rotor, which he will use to make a landing by yanking on the collective when he gets close to the ground. without the tail rotor this will cause a spin, but it should still slow him enough that he'll walk away.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: Anubis
its and old vid, bad weather + human mistakes on that one

if anyone watches the show called Shockwave on the history channel they may have seen the heli crash bit they had on there, ill do my best to sum up

heli guy is lifting a massive AC unit off a building id guess 50 storys, and lowering it onto a semi, im the middle of this the drive shaft for the rear rotor just fails, piolet noticed this, drops load (safeley) from ~100 feet or more, and then the heli goes into a fing dead spin because the tail rotor isnt working, he goes around about 9 times, all the while moveing the heli to the dedicated emergency crash area, in ever widening circles, he then kinda stops the heli from spinning on itself and does what i can only describe as a strange belly flop and lands the thing sorta face first into the side or a canal bank, totals the heli, and the piolet WALKS AWAY, with only minor scrapes and bruses, he comes back 2 days later with a new heli and finished the job and such

you can control a heli without the tail rotor, it takes huge amounts of coordination and experience. Drop the load so he can back off the pitch on the main rotor (thus creating less torque). Slowly work his way over to the emergency landing area.

The plan at this point is to autorotate down. Decouple the rotor from the engine and give the main blades negative pitch. This will get the helo moving down in a hurry, but it will also create a torque around the helo in the oposite direction, and should stop or at least slow the spin. As he's falling energy is being stored in the rotation of the main rotor, which he will use to make a landing by yanking on the collective when he gets close to the ground. without the tail rotor this will cause a spin, but it should still slow him enough that he'll walk away.


yea thats what the dude did, pretty crazy to watch
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Rubycon
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wait, you mean you actually don't know the answer to something? is this a first? :p

I never claimed to even be close to knowing everything. Nobody does. But I find by asking as many questions as I like when I don't know something I wind up knowing a lot more. ;)
 

rivan

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Originally posted by: Raduque
As far as I'm concerned, that guy just won Helicopter Pilot of the Year award. Even if it did happen on a Greenpeace boat.

Also, I don't think it was a strap. It looked like the boat pitched and basically threw the 'copter into the air. Whatever caused that, the Pucker Factor had to be in the millions.

I concur. I don't see anything still attached - from my non-pilot point of view, it was the deck pitching that sorta tossed him into the air.

Good call on the pucker factor.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: ja1484
Too bad it didn't blow up. Was a Greenpeace helo according to the caption.

Do you wish death on EVERYONE you disagree with?
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus

you can control a heli without the tail rotor, it takes huge amounts of coordination and experience. Drop the load so he can back off the pitch on the main rotor (thus creating less torque). Slowly work his way over to the emergency landing area.

The plan at this point is to autorotate down. Decouple the rotor from the engine and give the main blades negative pitch. This will get the helo moving down in a hurry, but it will also create a torque around the helo in the oposite direction, and should stop or at least slow the spin. As he's falling energy is being stored in the rotation of the main rotor, which he will use to make a landing by yanking on the collective when he gets close to the ground. without the tail rotor this will cause a spin, but it should still slow him enough that he'll walk away.


Most of that is pure misinformation. You're talking about autorotating a few feet off the ground? And you think it'll spin when it's autorotating? No.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: abracadabra1
Nailed the landing. Well done. Helicopters are amazingly survivable. There's no such thing as too short a runway for a helo - the same cannot be said of any fixed-wing aircraft.

Tell that to the Harrier.

try hovering for > 60 seconds in a harrier :p that's how long their coolant water lasts, IIRC

False.

They routinely hover at airshows much, much longer than that. 60 seconds is not the limit.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: Anubis
its and old vid, bad weather + human mistakes on that one

if anyone watches the show called Shockwave on the history channel they may have seen the heli crash bit they had on there, ill do my best to sum up

heli guy is lifting a massive AC unit off a building id guess 50 storys, and lowering it onto a semi, im the middle of this the drive shaft for the rear rotor just fails, piolet noticed this, drops load (safeley) from ~100 feet or more, and then the heli goes into a fing dead spin because the tail rotor isnt working, he goes around about 9 times, all the while moveing the heli to the dedicated emergency crash area, in ever widening circles, he then kinda stops the heli from spinning on itself and does what i can only describe as a strange belly flop and lands the thing sorta face first into the side or a canal bank, totals the heli, and the piolet WALKS AWAY, with only minor scrapes and bruses, he comes back 2 days later with a new heli and finished the job and such

you can control a heli without the tail rotor, it takes huge amounts of coordination and experience. Drop the load so he can back off the pitch on the main rotor (thus creating less torque). Slowly work his way over to the emergency landing area.

The plan at this point is to autorotate down. Decouple the rotor from the engine and give the main blades negative pitch. This will get the helo moving down in a hurry, but it will also create a torque around the helo in the oposite direction, and should stop or at least slow the spin. As he's falling energy is being stored in the rotation of the main rotor, which he will use to make a landing by yanking on the collective when he gets close to the ground. without the tail rotor this will cause a spin, but it should still slow him enough that he'll walk away.


yea thats what the dude did, pretty crazy to watch

That's not even close to what the dude did in that video. He didn't have the time, the forward velocity, or the altitude to autorotate.
 

RedCOMET

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I ride in S-76 and S-92 for work routinly. they can be fun to ride in, but the last time i went ou in a 92, it can be not fun, when its a very bumpy ride. :( also, i have been in a 76 where it took the pilot two tries to generate enough lift to get us off the helipad. it was creepy when he started drifted towards the edge of the pad. the pad was oly 70 or so feet above the water line. ( ie oil rig in the gulf of mexico)
 

marvdmartian

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: abracadabra1
Nailed the landing. Well done. Helicopters are amazingly survivable. There's no such thing as too short a runway for a helo - the same cannot be said of any fixed-wing aircraft.

Tell that to the Harrier.

try hovering for > 60 seconds in a harrier :p that's how long their coolant water lasts, IIRC

Dunno about that. Years ago, the first time I saw a Harrier land (on a "Gator Freighter", at Subic Bay Naval Station, Philippines), I'd bet the pilot had it in hover for longer than that, before he started down for his landing. I could be wrong, as I wasn't sitting there with a stopwatch in hand, timing him........but it sure seemed like a couple minutes after he came to a stop, before he touched down for a landing. And LOUD!!! :shocked:
 

ja1484

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: ja1484
Too bad it didn't blow up. Was a Greenpeace helo according to the caption.

Do you wish death on EVERYONE you disagree with?


More or less, yeah.

But more commonly on subversive political/arguably terrorist groups like Greenpeace.