This is what one punch can do....

[Brovane]

no tough guy, you have booze in you or durgs and you pull a piece you are in a world of shit. FYI weapon charges are a lot longer than90 days and you will have a felony conviction.

if you hve a gun on you even if you have a CCW and you have alchol in your system you are going to jail. no ifs ands or buts about it.

you dont have to brandish it, all it takes is for a DUI stop and when they search your car and find your gun you are in deep shit. more deep shit than just the DUI charge.

bottom line is if you drink or plan on drinking do not have a piece on you. ever.

I wonder if the same law applys to off duty cops that are carrying and consuming alcohol? Probably not.

 

[corwin]

I wonder if the same law applys to off duty cops that are carrying and consuming alcohol? Probably not.

The laws are for CCW permit holders, not police

 

[Perknose]

It's too bad we don't have a word for people who were wild, uncivilized, barbaric, ferocious, vicious, merciless and brutal. Just too bad...

It's too bad, in your abject ignorance of the actual history of your own country, that YOU feel the need to hang on to a word that was used by virulent racists committed to denying blacks even the unfettered right to vote or drink from the same water fountains, used by them to slur ALL blacks over and over and over.

And, white people who should have known better operated in inexcusable ugliness, encouraged by this view.

It's a shame you need to be taught by cable TV, but this is from this season's Mad Men premiere:

A group of ad men drop water-filled paper bags onto a group of protestors before any familiar characters appear. When one protestor confronts the men, she gives an almost punchline delivery of "And they call us savages."

Well, it turns out the line is quite authentic.

The New York Times points to an article from the paper's May 28, 1966 issue, in which the incident of actual Young & Rubicam advertising executives heckling a group of activists is recounted.

“A container of water was pitched out of one of the windows of the building, splashing two spectators," reads the story about more than 300 people picketing the Office of Economic Opportunity by Young & Rubicam. "Later, two demonstrators were hit by water-filled paper bags thrown from the building.”

Then, just as it happened in Mad Men, a young boy was struck with water, prompting several female protestors and his mother to go up to the ad office and confront the men -- where Times reporter John Kifner witnessed the entire exchange that played out, almost verbatim, in the series. (A protestor named Vivian Harris was the one who made the "savages" comment.)

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The opening scenes of the Season 5 premiere of “Mad Men,” set in 1966, depicted a sort of knucklehead-racism at work, when young men from the advertising agency Young & Rubicam dropped bags filled with water on protesters picketing on the Madison Avenue sidewalk below. Wet and angry, several protesters came upstairs to demand to know who at the firm had dropped the water bombs.

One protester said in disgust, “And they call us savages.”

Some critics found the scene, broadcast on Sunday, a bit too on-the-nose. “It’s a terrible line that should have been red-penciled,” wrote Matt Zoller Seitz for New York magazine. Mike Hale of The New York Times called it “unfortunately ham-handed.”

But no writer is to blame.

Everything in the scene really happened, written almost verbatim from an article on Page 1 of The Times on May 28, 1966.

“Poverty Pickets Get Paper-Bag Dousing on Madison Avenue,” the headline read. The article described more than 300 people picketing the Office of Economic Opportunity, between East 40th and 41st Streets, the day before, chanting, “O-E-O, we’ve got the poverty, where’s the dough?” Executives upstairs at Young & Rubicam, half a block from the building, shouted at the protesters, and hung up signs saying “If you want money, get yourself a job.”

And then, the article said: “A container of water was pitched out of one of the windows of the building, splashing two spectators. Later, two demonstrators were hit by water-filled paper bags thrown from the building.”

A 9-year-old boy was struck. Several women in the protest, including the boy’s mother, hurried up to the advertising agency’s sixth-floor offices and confronted a secretary about the water throwing.

“This is the executive floor,” the secretary said. “That’s utterly ridiculous.”

“Don’t you call us ridiculous,” a protester shouted. “Is this what Madison Avenue represents?”

“And they call us savages,” a protester named Vivian Harris said.

 

[TwiceOver]

It's too bad, in your abject ignorance of the actual history of your own country, that YOU feel the need to hang on to a word that was used by virulent racists committed to denying blacks even the unfettered right to vote or drink from the same water fountains, used by them to slur ALL blacks over and over and over.

And, white people who should have known better operated in inexcusable ugliness, encouraged by this view.

...

What's funny is that before the topic of "the word" was ever brought up, I always associated it with white cavemen. Never knew "the word" ever had anything to do with "keeping the man down".

 

[Perknose]

What's funny is that before the topic of "the word" was ever brought up, I always associated it with white cavemen. Never knew "the word" ever had anything to do with "keeping the man down".

And now you do.

 

[TwiceOver]

And now you do.

I'll have to be careful in the real world too. I throw that word around like it's just an every day term.

 

[mb]

So the guy that runs the place can use the word to describe white people in prior decades (of course he will just defend himself saying he was using it in quotes), but no one else can use it to describe anyone acting that way today.

Got it.

I don't care what time period or race it has to deal with. If the behavior fits the word, it's not inappropriate.

Yes, Anand lal Shimpi does not want posters using this word to describe blacks, even those you may feel deserve it, for obvious and relatively recent historical reasons you seemingly remain resistant to understanding.

To any poster who has any further problem with this edict, please take your complaints or questions to Moderator Discussions.

Do NOT post here any further on this. OT is not the proper venue.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Beev]

Yeah sorry, I don't care, Perk. I'll follow the rules because I have to, but the word isn't a racial slur to me. I don't care if it used to be; word usage can and does change. In the past I've called stuff "gay" before and I DEFINITELY am not against gay people, of any kind.

It's just a damn word, and unless someone is using it specifically to be racist, why does it matter?

Edit: I posted this before Perk's edit above.

 

[Brovane]

The laws are for CCW permit holders, not police

That is what I thought. So a off duty drunk cop drinking with a concealed firearm is less dangerous than a civilian CCW drinking? We need to start applying laws equally in this country, especially to the people that enforce the laws.

 

[darrontrask]

You know whats funny, in all the videos I have watched over the years, I cannot recall the roles being reversed. I am sure they are out there but... i guess it is what it is and we should just accept it for fear of being labeled, racist.

If just once assholes like this got what I feel they deserved..shot..well maybe it wouldn't happen as much.

Everyone should be able to carry and defend themselves and their property. I hate thieves and I believe you eliminate the source and it ends right there.

"Kill the head and the body will die"

 

[amdhunter]

This video is exactly why people shouldn't be surprised when I tell them I support Zimmerman.

 

[airdata]

Automatic rifle with extended drum full of ammo should do the trick.

Yeah... Call George Zimmerman.

 

[RavenSEAL]

no tough guy, you have booze in you or durgs and you pull a piece you are in a world of shit. FYI weapon charges are a lot longer than90 days and you will have a felony conviction.

if you hve a gun on you even if you have a CCW and you have alchol in your system you are going to jail. no ifs ands or buts about it.

you dont have to brandish it, all it takes is for a DUI stop and when they search your car and find your gun you are in deep shit. more deep shit than just the DUI charge.

bottom line is if you drink or plan on drinking do not have a piece on you. ever.

Alright "Tough guy". Come tell me this exact same shit after you get mugged and beaten in public by a groups of "ganstas". You're full of crap if you're telling me you're not willing to pull out a weapon on someone that's threatening your well being whether you've had a beer or not.

 

[corwin]

Alright "Tough guy". Come tell me this exact same shit after you get mugged and beaten in public by a groups of "ganstas". You're full of crap if you're telling me you're not willing to pull out a weapon on someone that's threatening your well being whether you've had a beer or not.

Yeah and he should really learn the difference between a "weapons charge" and violating the terms of a CCW license

 

[Joseph F]

It's too bad we don't have a word for people who were wild, uncivilized, barbaric, ferocious, vicious, merciless and brutal. Just too bad...

You mean "Savages"?

 

[corwin]

^Here comes a vacation...

 

[Joseph F]

I have a life outside of this place, so :whiste:.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Yeah and he should really learn the difference between a "weapons charge" and violating the terms of a CCW license

Potato, potato.

You pull the gun out on all those punks and they'll back off, if they don't, you have to right to put a cap on them.

 

[chimaxi83]

Yeah... Call George Zimmerman.

Zimmerman 2012!

 

[Pray To Jesus]

The sad thing is that throwing the perps into prison wouldn't help. It's part of their culture to go to prison and get REPS now.

 

[Joseph F]

Yes, Anand lal Shimpi does not want posters using this word to describe blacks, even those you may feel deserve it, for obvious and relatively recent historical reasons you seemingly remain resistant to understanding.

To any poster who has any further problem with this edict, please take your complaints or questions to Moderator Discussions.

Do NOT post here any further on this. OT is not the proper venue.

Perknose
Forum Director

Relatively recent? Try fifty fucking years ago.
No one uses "savage" as a racial slur, nowadays.

Yeah, lets take it to mod discussions, so you and your cronies (or, "cabal of criminals" :biggrin can attack me or whoever else disagrees with your crazy shit without fear of retaliation from fellow members.

Since you have a life outside of here, then don't let the cabal of criminals keep you from it.
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[Lifted]

Relatively recent? Try fifty fucking years ago.
No one uses "savage" as a racial slur, nowadays.

Yeah, lets take it to mod discussions, so you and your cronies (or, "cabal of criminals" :biggrin can attack me or whoever else disagrees with your crazy shit without fear of retaliation from fellow members.

I don't think Anand hangs out in mod discussions, so you're really barking up the wrong tree with this one.

anand@anandtech.com

Have a blast.

 

[Jeeebus]

Relatively recent? Try fifty fucking years ago.
No one uses "savage" as a racial slur, nowadays.

Yeah, lets take it to mod discussions, so you and your cronies (or, "cabal of criminals" :biggrin can attack me or whoever else disagrees with your crazy shit without fear of retaliation from fellow members.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Yeah, it's also called "In personal defense". I would sure as hell feel like my life is being threatened by those baboons and pistol whip the mofos.

If a judge disagree with that, he can suck my left nut and I'll rot in jail happily for 90 days.

You dont have the slightest idea about how shit actually works.

Yes, a judge would have a big problem with you carrying and brandishing a handgun after a night of drinking at a club. No, you will not spend a mere 90 days in jail. You would probably spend 1+ years in jail, unhappily I might add, and you would never legally own a firearm again. Also, the NRA would happily weigh in on the situation to tell you what a dumb ass you were for carrying drunk as well.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

expletive deleted racist sacks of expletive deleted. expletive deleted put a black guy surround by hicks and we'd be passing laws and making movies.

expletive deleted the expletive deleted expletive deleted.

excessive profanity not allowed.
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