This is what I don't get about time travel....

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OK, so let's assume that given an infinite amount of time, time travel will eventually become possible... If time travel does become possible in say 10,000 years, then wouldn't we have tourists visiting us from the future? I'm not getting into time travel theory but just logic- if it is eventually possible, we should be having visitors... Since we do not have people coming from the future today, does that not mean that it's never possible?
 

isasir

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Perhaps life in 2003 is just too boring for them and not worth visiting. Go look for them during World War III.
 

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, so let's assume that given an infinite amount of time, time travel will eventually become possible... If time travel does become possible in say 10,000 years, then wouldn't we have tourists visiting us from the future? I'm not getting into time travel theory but just logic- if it is eventually possible, we should be having visitors... Since we do not have people coming from the future today, does that not mean that it's never possible?

Is this you talking or the 10,000 years in the future you speaking?
 

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Originally posted by: RishiS
Perhaps life in 2003 is just too boring for them and not worth visiting. Go look for them during World War III.

Or if they started telling people they're from the year 10,000 they'd get thrown in the looney bin. Either way, if they're here, we aren't going to know about it.
 

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maybe they have that prime directive thingy?
 
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Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: RishiS
Perhaps life in 2003 is just too boring for them and not worth visiting. Go look for them during World War III.

Or if they started telling people they're from the year 10,000 they'd get thrown in the looney bin. Either way, if they're here, we aren't going to know about it.

So you believe that there are people here from 10,20, or 30,000 years from the future, roaming our streets? Interesting..
 

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when i meet a terminator or a hot terminatrix, i'll remember to post a pic for you!
 

Kaervak

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
So you believe that there are people here from 10,20, or 30,000 years from the future, roaming our streets? Interesting..


Anything's possible. Yes it's a stretch to think there may be people from the future here now, but you never know. Even if the possibility is 0.01%, it's still plausible. And now I sound like a crazy person. :D

 

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Anyone ever see that movie KPAX? Maybe he's here! I dunno but it sure does scare me about the Civil war and then WWIII. I wanna live another sixty years.
 
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Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
So you believe that there are people here from 10,20, or 30,000 years from the future, roaming our streets? Interesting..


Anything's possible. Yes it's a stretch to think there may be people from the future here now, but you never know. Even if the possibility is 0.01%, it's still plausible. And now I sound like a crazy person. :D

No, I don't think you're crazy at all.. I just read a fake article from weekly world news (the tabloid) about a time traveler who used his future knowledge to play the stock market.. Actually, that's basically the plot of one of the back to the future movies... I just wonder why this hasn't really happened if time travel is eventually possible.. How come there wasn't one idiot that came back in time to exploit the situation?
 

Nocturnal

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
So you believe that there are people here from 10,20, or 30,000 years from the future, roaming our streets? Interesting..


Anything's possible. Yes it's a stretch to think there may be people from the future here now, but you never know. Even if the possibility is 0.01%, it's still plausible. And now I sound like a crazy person. :D

No, I don't think you're crazy at all.. I just read a fake article from weekly world news (the tabloid) about a time traveler who used his future knowledge to play the stock market.. Actually, that's basically the plot of one of the back to the future movies... I just wonder why this hasn't really happened if time travel is eventually possible.. How come there wasn't one idiot that came back in time to exploit the situation?

This is where logic comes in. I don't see why they wouldn't.

One thing I remember so cleary, it was an episode of Duck Tales. The boys could stop time and they could do anything they wanted. Man that would be so cool.
 

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Anyone ever see that movie KPAX? Maybe he's here! I dunno but it sure does scare me about the Civil war and then WWIII. I wanna live another sixty years.

You really need to lighten up a little. Between the various near-Earth objects and this time travel thing, you are going to give yourself a coronary.

Relax and have a :beer:
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
So you believe that there are people here from 10,20, or 30,000 years from the future, roaming our streets? Interesting..


Anything's possible. Yes it's a stretch to think there may be people from the future here now, but you never know. Even if the possibility is 0.01%, it's still plausible. And now I sound like a crazy person. :D

No, I don't think you're crazy at all.. I just read a fake article from weekly world news (the tabloid) about a time traveler who used his future knowledge to play the stock market.. Actually, that's basically the plot of one of the back to the future movies... I just wonder why this hasn't really happened if time travel is eventually possible.. How come there wasn't one idiot that came back in time to exploit the situation?

I would definately travel back in time to exploit the situation. :)
 

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Maybe the aliens that people always claim to see are highly evolved and developed humans from thousands of years in the future. Who knows?
 

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All supposition, but if time travel were possible in say the year 10,000 it may be that travelers beyond that point would not go back and visit before then. It may also be that we are visited. Remember the area 51 stuff? Well suppose it were true (which I doubt) that some creatures in a craft were discovered? They look all too human to me, with a definite human body plan. Suppose these are not aliens from another star, but visitors from so distant a future that they look quite different from us. To them we could be as primitive as ape-like ancestors are to us.
 

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That is actually one one of the reasons skeptics give as proof that time travel is impossible. Personally, I don't think it's possible to travel through time. You can view the past (by viewing old light rays, ie: looking at the sun is looking 8 minutes into the past), but you can't interact with it. I believe that time is an abstract concept invented by people, not a physical or metaphysical or tangible thing. Think about it, to a slow turtle, time may seem accelerated. When they look at us, perhaps they see us moving at impossible speeds because their brains perceive time at a different rate. To that turtle, it may seem like a few moments to move 100 ft across the ground when in actuality, 10 minutes have passed. Or maybe a fly views time differently too. Maybe we move in slow motion to a fly.
We just created a concept of time that corresponds to our own perception of how fast things move. You can't go back in time one year because there is no such thing as a year. It's an abstract concept designed by us to keep track of when things happen.

Just my oppinion...
 

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
That is actually one one of the reasons skeptics give as proof that time travel is impossible. Personally, I don't think it's possible to travel through time. You can view the past (by viewing old light rays, ie: looking at the sun is looking 8 minutes into the past), but you can't interact with it. I believe that time is an abstract concept invented by people, not a physical or metaphysical or tangible thing. Think about it, to a slow turtle, time may seem accelerated. When they look at us, perhaps they see us moving at impossible speeds because their brains perceive time at a different rate. To that turtle, it may seem like a few moments to move 100 ft across the ground when in actuality, 10 minutes have passed. Or maybe a fly views time differently too. Maybe we move in slow motion to a fly.
We just created a concept of time that corresponds to our own perception of how fast things move. You can't go back in time one year because there is no such thing as a year. It's an abstract concept designed by us to keep track of when things happen.

Just my oppinion...


I agree and it is very true that we did create the months, years, days, time, etc. There was never one set thing back in the day when Alexander the Great ruled that said today is September 5th, I'm going to conquer Spain. L8z.
 

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
OK, so let's assume that given an infinite amount of time, time travel will eventually become possible... If time travel does become possible in say 10,000 years, then wouldn't we have tourists visiting us from the future? I'm not getting into time travel theory but just logic- if it is eventually possible, we should be having visitors... Since we do not have people coming from the future today, does that not mean that it's never possible?

And how do you know there aren't tourists from the future here now?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
That is actually one one of the reasons skeptics give as proof that time travel is impossible. Personally, I don't think it's possible to travel through time. You can view the past (by viewing old light rays, ie: looking at the sun is looking 8 minutes into the past), but you can't interact with it. I believe that time is an abstract concept invented by people, not a physical or metaphysical or tangible thing. Think about it, to a slow turtle, time may seem accelerated. When they look at us, perhaps they see us moving at impossible speeds because their brains perceive time at a different rate. To that turtle, it may seem like a few moments to move 100 ft across the ground when in actuality, 10 minutes have passed. Or maybe a fly views time differently too. Maybe we move in slow motion to a fly.
We just created a concept of time that corresponds to our own perception of how fast things move. You can't go back in time one year because there is no such thing as a year. It's an abstract concept designed by us to keep track of when things happen.

Just my oppinion...

Actually, time is a very necessary to our understanding physics. Relativity looks at it as a real dimension to our universe. Now what IS it? I have no clue. But consider spatial dimentions. What is distance made of? Consider that you cannot move negatively in space any more than time. Oh you can move from A to B then from B to A with a net movement of zero. That does not mean you "undo" your motion. You still move. The total distance is twice that from A to B. Always. What does this all mean at a fundamental level? I cannot say. I believe (but might be wrong) that humans are fundimentally too stupid to grasp it. Perhaps some qualitatively superior being can deal with it, but explaining it to us might be like explaining quantum mechanics to a dog.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
The future and past exist only as concepts and images generated by the human brain.

An interesting philosophical point, but are you now dead, or never been born or both?