This is unbelievable.

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Zorba

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
wtf is the issue with this? there is no name... counties arent exactly small...

1) Date of abortion (no biggie)
2) County in which abortion is performed (oh noes, the people will know what county it was performed in!)
3) Age of mother(oh noes an age!)
4) Marital status of mother(oh noes she could be single! or married!)
5) Race of mother (no dont show the race)
6) Years of education of mother (no dont show the education level)
7) State or foreign country of residence of mother (nooo dont show was state and or COUNTRY she lives in)
8) Total number of previous pregnancies of the mother (oh noes?)

Honestly why are people's panties in a wad?

and need original commentary or lockity lock

Some counties in rural Oklahoma are very small.

and your point? how does this apply at all?

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

Is it too late to abort you?

 

[Fear No Evil]

I predict the next poster is going to prefer that I be dead.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

Is it too late to abort you?

Very classy. Disagree with the left? They'd prefer you die.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: inspire

Originally posted by: ElFenix
oklahoma sucks

This is a direct violation of HIPAA, and the ACLU will be along shortly to end this bulshit on the grounds of federal Supremacy. I work with clinical data for a living, and this is hardly anonymized data. This is a violation of the woman's right to medical privacy and shame on Oklahoma for enacting such a blatant affront to the rights of its citizens.

I can, at a strech, understand the state collecting some of this information. Posting it online or making it pubilcly available through anything less than a FOIA request is unacceptable. If thi moves forward, it should be overseen by an independent ethics committee, and subject to the purview of the NIH.

What's the exact HIPAA language for what can and cannot be disclosed?

The date/age/years of education data points seem pretty suspect.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

Is it too late to abort you?

Very classy. Disagree with the left? They'd prefer you die.

Heh why are you so infatuated with something that may or may not become a self-aware person as opposed to the woman that already is a person?

 

[Praxis1452]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

Scraping the fetus out of a woman is pretty much what happens. I don't feel bad about that in any way whatsoever. In fact, I feel pretty apathetic about it. Your point?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

It's also none of your freaking business. Don't like it? Don't have this procedure done to you.

But don't forget to give all of your personal medical information to your local, state and Federal governments officials so they can post it anywhere for any reason. Maybe they'll find you have a previously unknown pre-exisiting condition the next time you try to get some over-priced health insurance.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

It's also none of your freaking business. Don't like it? Don't have this proceedure done to you.

But don't forget to give all of your personal medical information to your local, state and Federal governments officials so they can post it anywhere for any reason. Maybe they'll find you have a previously unknown pre-exisiting condition the next time you try to get some over-priced health insurance.

Don't like torture? Then don't do it.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

Is it too late to abort you?

Very classy. Disagree with the left? They'd prefer you die.

Apparently, I'm just as classy as you are.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

I'm glad you're paying attention, because you got that exactly right !

And the 2-4-1 abortion happy hours at hospitals is a great idea. You could even let the women drink like a real happy hour, I mean, it's not like they're pregnant or anything.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Fern
I don't see how this set of info could realistically be used to identify any specific person.

Nor do I see why they want the data anyway. What the purpose? The article never said.

Fern

In the small town in Oklahoma I could easily identify any woman in the town meeting the criteria on the list.

It;s small town so everyone knows already anyway but does that mean it should be online for the whole world to see?

A lot of people own guns in Oklahoma, the politicians should re-consider their actions.
Then again keep this shit up and see what happens boys.

you will ONLY know if the person is from Oklahoma, or NOT from Oklahoma...

come again?
you wont know their county, their street, hell you wont even know what City they reside near...

Hello. I live in a small town in Oklahoma and everyone knows every woman of child bearing years. It would not be hard to figure out from a post online. Hell like I said we would already know before the web posting.

Weren't you, just a week or two ago, bitching about something related to you living in Chicago? I call BS.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Zorba

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
wtf is the issue with this? there is no name... counties arent exactly small...

1) Date of abortion (no biggie)
2) County in which abortion is performed (oh noes, the people will know what county it was performed in!)
3) Age of mother(oh noes an age!)
4) Marital status of mother(oh noes she could be single! or married!)
5) Race of mother (no dont show the race)
6) Years of education of mother (no dont show the education level)
7) State or foreign country of residence of mother (nooo dont show was state and or COUNTRY she lives in)
8) Total number of previous pregnancies of the mother (oh noes?)

Honestly why are people's panties in a wad?

and need original commentary or lockity lock

Some counties in rural Oklahoma are very small.

and your point? how does this apply at all?

Small enough that an "african american unmarried 23 year old with 10 years of schooling" could shift from "statistical data" to "personally identifying information".

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

It's also none of your freaking business. Don't like it? Don't have this proceedure done to you.

But don't forget to give all of your personal medical information to your local, state and Federal governments officials so they can post it anywhere for any reason. Maybe they'll find you have a previously unknown pre-exisiting condition the next time you try to get some over-priced health insurance.

Don't like torture? Then don't do it.

Your argument is so completely, over-the-top terrible that it does not dignify a proper, logical response.

Come back when you have something intelligent to say.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

I'm glad you're paying attention, because you got that exactly right !

And the 2-4-1 abortion happy hours at hospitals is a great idea. You could even let the women drink like a real happy hour, I mean, it's not like they're pregnant or anything.

And another whack job in the P&N forum

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

I'm glad you're paying attention, because you got that exactly right !

And the 2-4-1 abortion happy hours at hospitals is a great idea. You could even let the women drink like a real happy hour, I mean, it's not like they're pregnant or anything.

OK, I laughed.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Fern
I don't see how this set of info could realistically be used to identify any specific person.

Nor do I see why they want the data anyway. What the purpose? The article never said.

Fern

In the small town in Oklahoma I could easily identify any woman in the town meeting the criteria on the list.

It;s small town so everyone knows already anyway but does that mean it should be online for the whole world to see?

A lot of people own guns in Oklahoma, the politicians should re-consider their actions.
Then again keep this shit up and see what happens boys.

you will ONLY know if the person is from Oklahoma, or NOT from Oklahoma...

come again?
you wont know their county, their street, hell you wont even know what City they reside near...

Hello. I live in a small town in Oklahoma and everyone knows every woman of child bearing years. It would not be hard to figure out from a post online. Hell like I said we would already know before the web posting.

Weren't you, just a week or two ago, bitching about something related to you living in Chicago? I call BS.

Well a few weeks ago, he mentioned going boating on Lake Michigan, which is when I implored him not to dock in my home state of Indiana. I didn't want him to defile it.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Its amazing that collecting this information shocks you guys, but scraping the fetus out of a woman.. Thats just freaking AWESOME! They should have 2 for 1 Abortion Happy Hours at Hospitals.

It's also none of your freaking business. Don't like it? Don't have this proceedure done to you.

But don't forget to give all of your personal medical information to your local, state and Federal governments officials so they can post it anywhere for any reason. Maybe they'll find you have a previously unknown pre-exisiting condition the next time you try to get some over-priced health insurance.

Don't like torture? Then don't do it.

Still out of touch with reality, are you? Unlike aborition, torture is illegal. :Q

Of course, that wouldn't make any difference to you, and you know what I think of those who support torture, especially those who support disgracing the integrity and honor of of the United States of America like your mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal of traitors, murderers, torturers and war criminals. :thumbsdown: :|

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Oklahoma women undergoing abortion procedures will be legally forced to reveal:

1) Date of abortion
2) County in which abortion is performed
3) Age of mother
4) Marital status of mother
5) Race of mother
6) Years of education of mother
7) State or foreign country of residence of mother
8) Total number of previous pregnancies of the mother

Sounds like great statistical data. What's wrong with it?

Maybe I am wrong, but I think its against federal law to require a person to reveal their race on any type application or document. Clearly if challenged to the federal level this will be shot down. I am almost certain, this type of info violates HIPPA, even though no names will be used. Its still personal medical info of an individual. There is nothing wrong with it if a person agrees to the use of the info, but to forcibly require it probably won't survive a federal appeal. This is clearly a tactic to try an intimidate a woman into not having an abortion by creating the fear that her personal info could be become public. This violates the privacy of folks that have done nothing illegal.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Oklahoma women undergoing abortion procedures will be legally forced to reveal:

1) Date of abortion
2) County in which abortion is performed
3) Age of mother
4) Marital status of mother
5) Race of mother
6) Years of education of mother
7) State or foreign country of residence of mother
8) Total number of previous pregnancies of the mother

Sounds like great statistical data. What's wrong with it?

Maybe I am wrong, but I think its against federal law to require a person to reveal their race on any type application or document. Clearly if challenged to the federal level this will be shot down. I am almost certain, this type of info violates HIPPA, even though no names will be used. Its still personal medical info of an individual. There is nothing wrong with it if a person agrees to the use of the info, but to forcibly require it probably won't survive a federal appeal. This is clearly a tactic to try an intimidate a woman into not having an abortion by creating the fear that her personal info could be become public. This violates the privacy of folks that have done nothing illegal.

Let's play the anonymity game:

The posters here who don't mind this information being collected and posted in public should also be free to provide the following:

1) Poster's county of residence
2) Poster's age
3) Poster's marital status
4) Poster's race
5) Poster's years of education
6) State or foreign country of residence of poster
7) Listing of employment experience in IT or related industry (dates of employment only).

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: fallout man
Let's play the anonymity game:

The posters here who don't mind this information being collected and posted in public should also be free to provide the following:

1) Poster's county of residence
2) Poster's age
3) Poster's marital status
4) Poster's race
5) Poster's years of education
6) State or foreign country of residence of poster
7) Listing of employment experience in IT or related industry (dates of employment only).

You are more than capable of making a poll.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: fallout man

Let's play the anonymity game:

The posters here who don't mind this information being collected and posted in public should also be free to provide the following:

1) Poster's county of residence
2) Poster's age
3) Poster's marital status
4) Poster's race
5) Poster's years of education
6) State or foreign country of residence of poster
7) Listing of employment experience in IT or related industry (dates of employment only).

You are more than capable of making a poll.

True, but are you less than capable of understanding that he's making a point, not a poll?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Fern
I don't see how this set of info could realistically be used to identify any specific person.

Nor do I see why they want the data anyway. What the purpose? The article never said.

Fern

In the small town in Oklahoma I could easily identify any woman in the town meeting the criteria on the list.

It;s small town so everyone knows already anyway but does that mean it should be online for the whole world to see?

A lot of people own guns in Oklahoma, the politicians should re-consider their actions.
Then again keep this shit up and see what happens boys.

you will ONLY know if the person is from Oklahoma, or NOT from Oklahoma...

come again?
you wont know their county, their street, hell you wont even know what City they reside near...

Hello. I live in a small town in Oklahoma and everyone knows every woman of child bearing years. It would not be hard to figure out from a post online. Hell like I said we would already know before the web posting.

Weren't you, just a week or two ago, bitching about something related to you living in Chicago? I call BS.

I'm a contractor dickhead. I travel the country.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Fern
I don't see how this set of info could realistically be used to identify any specific person.

Nor do I see why they want the data anyway. What the purpose? The article never said.

Fern

In the small town in Oklahoma I could easily identify any woman in the town meeting the criteria on the list.

It;s small town so everyone knows already anyway but does that mean it should be online for the whole world to see?

A lot of people own guns in Oklahoma, the politicians should re-consider their actions.
Then again keep this shit up and see what happens boys.

you will ONLY know if the person is from Oklahoma, or NOT from Oklahoma...

come again?
you wont know their county, their street, hell you wont even know what City they reside near...

Hello. I live in a small town in Oklahoma and everyone knows every woman of child bearing years. It would not be hard to figure out from a post online. Hell like I said we would already know before the web posting.

Weren't you, just a week or two ago, bitching about something related to you living in Chicago? I call BS.

I'm a contractor dickhead. I travel the country.

If you're ever going to be in Indianapolis, let me know so I can alert the authorities.

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: Zstream
When people are using tax dollars to fund abortion it is the choice of the people to inact such laws.

Actually, current federal law bans the use of federal funds for abortions. And only 17 states provide public funds. I would bet that Oklahoma is not one of those states.

Your point is invalid.

No, federal law states that in cases of medical disclaim abortion funds are provided by the federal government.

http://www.guttmacher.org/stat...er/spibs/spib_SFAM.pdf

http://www.prochoice.org/about...ts/public_funding.html

Either way, this is a state decision.