Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Aisengard
Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Actually, I think this is pretty smart. Republicans love to mock the Democrats "getting their message out", claiming that the problem isn't trasmitting the message, it's that the message sucks. But I think this past election shows that they couldn't be more wrong. In the 2004 election, Bush voters knew why they were voting for Bush. Many of us thought the reasons were stupid, but still, Bush voters knew what they were voting for. Kerry, on the other hand, did not do a great job of convincing people he stood for anything in particular. Record numbers of people voted for him because he wasn't Bush, but there was clearly a difference.
The problem wasn't getting his message out, it was that he didn't have a message except "not Bush" and with the media's help he definately got that message out. If he would have had a coherent plan and message he would have done far better.
Key for you lefties- find a NEW message. Not "anti-Bush", "Education", "Social Security"/welfare, or one of your other recycled chants. People are obviously wise to the fact that you give nothing more than lip service to theses issues which used to gain you votes. Time to find something that people can hold on to and grasp. Good luck, with the way you are going you will need all the luck you can get! :laugh:
Point proven. Again and again and again. The Democrats DO have a message...you are just too blind by your partisanship to hear it.
And yes, part of that message is "not Bush," but please, if you'd take off your red-colored glasses for a bit and listen, that is a main point of ANY minority party seeking to gain office over an unpopular incumbent.
Though we'll never know, a lot of the Bush votes went to him, not because they agreed with him (what's there to agree with? Killing is bad? puh-leeze. Some message), it's because they didn't want to vote for Frankenstein's monster. Plus the fact that most of Bush's war chest went to demonizing Kerry, and you'll see that the Republican message is more "not them" than the Democrat message.
Also, I'd like to point out that only already-elected incumbents are staging these events. So technically, by your standards, it's not "political grandstanding" after all, is it?
Point proven? OK :roll:
OK, so what is the Democrat's message? The same BS they've been using the last 30 years? or Anti-Bush/Republican? So what is new with their message? Nothing, they just want to try to wrap their same tired BS in the flag and hope people swallow it.
Talking about blind partisanship, if your types weren't so blindly partisan you'd already be working on the new message but instead you continue to ignore reality and think you just need to get it out better.
I watched the Republicans go through this same thing years ago and was frustrated as hell with it. They finally had the gonads to take the difficult look at themselves and their message and retool it so it was relevant. They did, and have been sucessful since that time.
Take it or leave it. :laugh:
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