This is the most anti-bush/liberal forum I have ever seen...

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Haves vs have not.
Those on the outside looking in.
Attitude of my way or the highway.
Sore loser syndrome.


Most of the above is indictive of those who are anti-Bush.

He has made some mistakes in judgement; however, many of those vocal critics apparently were unable to communicate properly their ideas/concerns when provide the opportunity

Now those critics have to sit on the sidelines and nit-pick with "I told you so" rather than come up with workable solutions for the problems that they identify.

That's the problem, there is no workable solutions possible while the current Regime is in power.

 

[NJDevil]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Easy. He authorized the torture, mass murder, enslavement and incineration of an entire country. People who do that type of thing should be hated.

WOW! JUST PLAIN WOW! Now I can see why this forum is so cluttered with the anti-bush garbage! Crazy liberals and their conspiracy theories!

With this line of thought, perhaps we should hate the rest of the people who voted to autorize this war too? Like John Kerry!

How about addressing Bumrush's well put post?

 

[Sixtyfour]

Few possible reasons..

http://anon.salon.speedera.net/anon.salon/media/2004/10/BushUncensored.mov

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911.htm

http://www.ifilm.com/bigpicture/politicalbush

😀

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: NJDevil
How about addressing Bumrush's well put post?

OK. With his viewpoints there he is hardly a "moderate" has he described himself.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: NJDevil
How about addressing Bumrush's well put post?

OK. With his viewpoints there he is hardly a "moderate" has he described himself.

So you consider these views extreme?

I'm a moderate and I will give you several reasons. I support the war on terror but I do not support an adminstration that is secretive, that has no desire to keep the public informed on matters that are important to us.

I value life, but will never value the life of a stem cell that will be destroyed over a living human being that can be cured of debilitating disease.

I have problems trusting someone that hides behind his religous beliefs to steer public policy to the right.

I have a problem with a president that talks about being a conservative yet continues to spend trillions upon trillions of dollars while giving tax cuts to the top 1% of this country.

I see rising gas costs, cronyism at the highest levels, leaked CIA information, Senate and House leaders under investigation and a under-qualified supreme court nominee that was picked because Bush likes her style. I see a country in disarry, losing legitmacy throughout the world while Bush continues to hide. I see directors of FEMA that couldn't even direct a pack of horses, I see United Nations representatives that don't know the definition of diplomacy, I see honorable people like Powell that are pushed out. It is not about hating the president, it is about accepting the sad fact that country is in much worse condition than it was 10 years ago.

Would you care to illuminate, point by point, the extremism in the views above, or will you just flatly refuse to provide any substantive basis to your charges?

Well?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
He signed the Patriot Act. His duty is to uphold the Constitution, not have laws drafted to make end-runs around it. I'm glad I got out of the service before he became Commander in Chief.

How many Democrats voted in favor of the Patriot Act?

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Perknose

I value life, but will never value the life of a stem cell that will be destroyed over a living human being that can be cured of debilitating disease.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

Originally posted by: Perknose
I have problems trusting someone that hides behind his religous beliefs to steer public policy to the right.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

Originally posted by: PerknoseI have a problem with a president that talks about being a conservative yet continues to spend trillions upon trillions of dollars while giving tax cuts to the top 1% of this country.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Corbett
What's with the constant Bush bashing here? I mean, I love talking politics and all but most of you just seem to hate absolutely ANYTHING that has to do with the White House or this current administration. Why?

They are part of the borg collective. Unless the elite liberals in this country instruct them to, they cant respond with anything positive about the president. In their lust to satisfy the collective they even use bad logic and connect dots that arent even there to pain Bush in a bad light.

I heard they are on a crash course with Capt Kirks new startship called USS Reality. Could put them whole lot of them 6 feet under.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
He signed the Patriot Act. His duty is to uphold the Constitution, not have laws drafted to make end-runs around it. I'm glad I got out of the service before he became Commander in Chief.

How many Democrats voted in favor of the Patriot Act?

Nice try. Completely irrelevant. HE had the power to stop it. And rightfully, he should have. But since it suited his interests, Constitution and freedom be damned, he signed it.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: PerknoseI have a problem with a president that talks about being a conservative yet continues to spend trillions upon trillions of dollars while giving tax cuts to the top 1% of this country.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

Ah... I see now. You're just trolling.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
He signed the Patriot Act. His duty is to uphold the Constitution, not have laws drafted to make end-runs around it. I'm glad I got out of the service before he became Commander in Chief.

How many Democrats voted in favor of the Patriot Act?

Nice try. Completely irrelevant. HE had the power to stop it. And rightfully, he should have. But since it suited his interests, Constitution and freedom be damned, he signed it.

Outside of the sky is falling how many abuses because of the patriot act have been confirmed in nearly 4 years of existence?

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Genx87

They are part of the borg collective. Unless the elite liberals in this country instruct them to, they cant respond with anything positive about the president. In their lust to satisfy the collective they even use bad logic and connect dots that arent even there to pain Bush in a bad light.

What elite liberals are posters here supposedly following? I'm not aware of a single elected official on the national scene who is anywhere near as left leaning as myself.

I heard they are on a crash course with Capt Kirks new startship called USS Reality. Could put them whole lot of them 6 feet under.

Is this intended as a threat of violence?

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Perknose

I value life, but will never value the life of a stem cell that will be destroyed over a living human being that can be cured of debilitating disease.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

Originally posted by: Perknose
I have problems trusting someone that hides behind his religous beliefs to steer public policy to the right.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

Originally posted by: PerknoseI have a problem with a president that talks about being a conservative yet continues to spend trillions upon trillions of dollars while giving tax cuts to the top 1% of this country.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

I guess so long as people can make up their own definitions of liberal, moderate and conservative there's not likely to ever be a meaningful conversation on these topics. 😎

I'd say your first two examples are absolutely horsecrap, though the third has a bit of truth to it.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Genx87

They are part of the borg collective. Unless the elite liberals in this country instruct them to, they cant respond with anything positive about the president. In their lust to satisfy the collective they even use bad logic and connect dots that arent even there to pain Bush in a bad light.

What elite liberals are posters here supposedly following? I'm not aware of a single elected official on the national scene who is anywhere near as left leaning as myself.

I heard they are on a crash course with Capt Kirks new startship called USS Reality. Could put them whole lot of them 6 feet under.

Is this intended as a threat of violence?

Only a liberal can skim right over obvious sarcasm.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
He signed the Patriot Act. His duty is to uphold the Constitution, not have laws drafted to make end-runs around it. I'm glad I got out of the service before he became Commander in Chief.

How many Democrats voted in favor of the Patriot Act?

Nice try. Completely irrelevant. HE had the power to stop it. And rightfully, he should have. But since it suited his interests, Constitution and freedom be damned, he signed it.

Outside of the sky is falling how many abuses because of the patriot act have been confirmed in nearly 4 years of existence?

Again, completely irrelevant. You die-hard right wingers are good with that, just like your main man. The point is that the Patriot Act runs directly counter to the words and spirit of the Constitution, and the man who's most duty-bound to protect it SPIT on it when he signed that POS.
The OP asked why people hate him--I'm giving my number one reason.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Nice try. Completely irrelevant. HE had the power to stop it. And rightfully, he should have. But since it suited his interests, Constitution and freedom be damned, he signed it.

It passed with a veto-proof majority. What power are you speaking of?

Any of some 300 democrats in congress had the power to stop it, but they chose not to.


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You must hate everyone on this list besides feingold.


So what's the real reason you hate him?

 

[Legend]

Originally posted by: Perknose
I have problems trusting someone that hides behind his religous beliefs to steer public policy to the right.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

Conservative != religious tool

Originally posted by: PerknoseI have a problem with a president that talks about being a conservative yet continues to spend trillions upon trillions of dollars while giving tax cuts to the top 1% of this country.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

Nope, that's an economic moderate view.

REAL conservatives want low spending and low taxes.

This administration likes to spend a ton and lower taxes. That's NOT conservative.

Liberals want high spending and high taxes. They want to tax the rich more than Conservatives do.

Thus his viewpoint has common ground in both conservatism and liberalism.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
He signed the Patriot Act. His duty is to uphold the Constitution, not have laws drafted to make end-runs around it. I'm glad I got out of the service before he became Commander in Chief.

How many Democrats voted in favor of the Patriot Act?

Nice try. Completely irrelevant. HE had the power to stop it. And rightfully, he should have. But since it suited his interests, Constitution and freedom be damned, he signed it.

Outside of the sky is falling how many abuses because of the patriot act have been confirmed in nearly 4 years of existence?

Again, completely irrelevant. You die-hard right wingers are good with that, just like your main man. The point is that the Patriot Act runs directly counter to the words and spirit of the Constitution, and the man who's most duty-bound to protect it SPIT on it when he signed that POS.
The OP asked why people hate him--I'm giving my number one reason.

What do you mean completely irrelevant? When the thing was passed all we heard about from the fear mongers was how it was going to trample everybody's rights and put us into a police state. 4 years later and nobody can even come up with a single instance of this happening and it is irrelevant?

You do realize with the patriot act the person under investigation does have their day in court to refute the charges?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Genx87
What do you mean completely irrelevant? When the thing was passed all we heard about from the fear mongers was how it was going to trample everybody's rights and put us into a police state. 4 years later and nobody can even come up with a single instance of this happening and it is irrelevant?

You do realize with the patriot act the person under investigation does have their day in court to refute the charges?

I mean, it's completely irrelevant. Here, let me quote myself in hopes you'll actually read and understand it this time.

The OP asked why people hate him--I'm giving my number one reason.

I'm not going to discuss the Patriot Act with you or any of your cronies, because that's not what this thread is about.

 

[Strk]

He isn't a very good president and he is still in office until 2008. What has he really done that is really inspiring? The only impressive part is the education area - when you exclude No Child Left Behind, of course. But when you spend the amount of money he does, you're bound to spend some in the right areas at some point.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Perknose

I value life, but will never value the life of a stem cell that will be destroyed over a living human being that can be cured of debilitating disease.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

Originally posted by: Perknose
I have problems trusting someone that hides behind his religous beliefs to steer public policy to the right.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

Originally posted by: PerknoseI have a problem with a president that talks about being a conservative yet continues to spend trillions upon trillions of dollars while giving tax cuts to the top 1% of this country.

This is not a moderate view. It is a liberal view.

You are wrong on all three counts. The majority of Americans support stem cell research. The majority of Americans support separation of church and state. The majority of Americans support responsible fiscal policy. I think you are exposing your true agenda.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: zendari
How many Democrats voted in favor of the Patriot Act?

Nice try. Completely irrelevant. HE had the power to stop it. And rightfully, he should have. But since it suited his interests, Constitution and freedom be damned, he signed it.

It's not completely irrelevant at all. The Patriot Act is a horrible piece of legislation - Congress is as much at fault, if not more so, than the President for that particular abomination.

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Genx87
I heard they are on a crash course with Capt Kirks new startship called USS Reality. Could put them whole lot of them 6 feet under.

Is this intended as a threat of violence?

Only if you have no concept of reality or have the mental capactity of a 4-year-old. 😕

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Genx87
What do you mean completely irrelevant? When the thing was passed all we heard about from the fear mongers was how it was going to trample everybody's rights and put us into a police state. 4 years later and nobody can even come up with a single instance of this happening and it is irrelevant?

You do realize with the patriot act the person under investigation does have their day in court to refute the charges?

I mean, it's completely irrelevant. Here, let me quote myself in hopes you'll actually read and understand it this time.

The OP asked why people hate him--I'm giving my number one reason.

I'm not going to discuss the Patriot Act with you or any of your cronies, because that's not what this thread is about.

lmao you bring it up and then dont want to talk about it.

You going to take your toys home with you as well?

lmao

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Corbett
What's with the constant Bush bashing here? I mean, I love talking politics and all but most of you just seem to hate absolutely ANYTHING that has to do with the White House or this current administration. Why?

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: zendari
Bitterness in life needing to find a source of blame.

The need to apologize for incompetence because of the "R" on your sweater is how your side is viewed.