This is stupid

[manlymatt83]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/02/15/mattingly.oh.pharmacist.jailed.cnn?hpt=C2

I don't think he should have gone to jail.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Can't watch video right now, details?

 

[manlymatt83]

Can't watch video right now, details?

Pharmacist overloaded with work at a hospital with good history accidentally gives a child a dose of medicine that kills her, regrets it, but thrown in jail. It wasn't even him that made the mistake - someone else did, and he just accidentally approved it.

 

[Kirby]

Pharmacist overloaded with work at a hospital with good history accidentally gives a child a dose of medicine that kills her, regrets it, but thrown in jail. It wasn't even him that made the mistake - someone else did, and he just accidentally approved it.

How is it not his fault again?

 

[Soundmanred]

How is it not his fault?

 

[lxskllr]

How is it not his fault again?

Good, then you won't mind sitting in jail when you make a mistake at work....

 

[Beev]

Good, then you won't mind sitting in jail when you make a mistake at work....

My mistakes at work don't kill people.

 

[lxskllr]

My mistakes at work don't kill people.

So what if they do? Do you fuck up at work because nobody dies as a result? Who gives a shit. He did his best job, and made a mistake. Exactly what kind of reformation is supposed to happen in jail here? If people don't want to take a chance on having doctors injure them, they should fix their problems themselves.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Pharmacist overloaded with work at a hospital with good history accidentally gives a child a dose of medicine that kills her, regrets it, but thrown in jail. It wasn't even him that made the mistake - someone else did, and he just accidentally approved it.

So? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that every single person who has ever accidentally killed a child "regrets it." That doesn't forgive someone who was placed in a position of responsibility not accepting the seriousness of his or her role. If he was too overworked to fulfill the functions of his job, he should have made that clear to a supervisor. By continuing to work, he accepted the responsibility, and he has to live with the consequences.

 

[darkxshade]

How is it not his fault?

This is not about fault. He clearly missed it... it could have been something as a small as decimal place being off. The problem is that he went to jail for it even though it wasn't him who made the inital error and it wasn't him who administered the shot. He was suppose to verify the dosage but think about how many shots are given throughout the day at a hospital, that isn't his only job he's paid to do and he was swamped. Sometimes you manage your time by placing your trust in the people you work with that they won't screw up in the first place. He should have been fired but not sent to prison.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I don't believe in having to be in trouble with the law if you make a mistake on the job. That's too far imo. I could see getting fired, maybe. It's sad that someone died, but mistakes happen. Now if it was done on purpose, that's a different story.

 

[Beev]

So what if they do? Do you fuck up at work because nobody dies as a result? Who gives a shit. He did his best job, and made a mistake. Exactly what kind of reformation is supposed to happen in jail here? If people don't want to take a chance on having doctors injure them, they should fix their problems themselves.

I wasn't implying that the verdict was acceptable. I was just saying that comparing his job to a normal job isn't fair.

 

[dawp]

Like he said, the system is the problem, until that changes, it will happen again only next time it might be covered up.

 

[dguy6789]

So what if they do? Do you fuck up at work because nobody dies as a result? Who gives a shit. He did his best job, and made a mistake. Exactly what kind of reformation is supposed to happen in jail here? If people don't want to take a chance on having doctors injure them, they should fix their problems themselves.

Agree with all of your posts in this thread 100%.

 

[Jeff7]

I don't believe in having to be in trouble with the law if you make a mistake on the job. That's too far imo. I could see getting fired, maybe. It's sad that someone died, but mistakes happen. Now if it was done on purpose, that's a different story.

So let's say you're a licensed Professional Engineer, and you sign off on a design for something, such as a bridge. That means that you've reviewed the calculations, and said that they were correct, and that the design would be safe.
Then the bridge collapses and kills 20 people.

Your signature was on the design, legally certifying that it would be safe. Guess whose ass the lawyers are coming for first.



My take on it is that if you want to be a pharmacist, or Professional Engineer, or any kind of job where your judgments can result in people living or dying, you are voluntarily assuming that responsibility. If your job is so stressful that you cannot render due diligence to every single task you are given, knowing full well that a mistake can kill someone, it's your responsibility to do something about it, even if it means quitting.

 

[SunSamurai]

Good, then you won't mind sitting in jail when you make a mistake at work....

Only a coward like you would think he doesn't deserve jail time for this. People feel bad about manslaughter too. Be more careful.

 

[dguy6789]

Only a coward like you would think he doesn't deserve jail time for this. People feel bad about manslaughter too. Be more careful.

Because saying be more careful will cause anyone who listens to become a perfect individual who is incapable of making mistakes.

It must be nice being so perfect that you condone jail time for anyone who makes mistakes.

 

[Matthiasa]

Don't feel like watching the clip, but if the person who wrote the thing to be filled out was also thrown in jail then I say yes, if not then no.

 

[KMFJD]

Do cops get jailed when they make a mistake and shot an innocent bystander?

 

[amdhunter]

He shouldn't have been thrown in jail, but he should have been heavily fined and stripped of his license.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So lemme see. A doc makes a misdiagnosis, and instead of being sued he's thrown in jail. Let's see how long it takes that to get fixed.

Without a doubt this is tragic, but no one who hasn't done the job understands the distractions and workload that typically happens in pharmacy.

The usual legal remedy for this has been through civil action, which is what happens with other practitioners.

If the standard is perfection or jail, I should be either paid ten times more for the risk or we all need to quit.

None of you could do the job day in and day out without something going wrong. In fact pharmacists routinely wind up being the filter for prescribe errors. I can't tell you how many WTF? moments I've had.

I feel sorry for all involved, but jail is ridiculous. If he goes to jail, then all providers need to.

 

[Kirby]

I don't know why the fuck they don't have text to accompany the video....

 

[amdhunter]

So lemme see. A doc makes a misdiagnosis, and instead of being sued he's thrown in jail. Let's see how long it takes that to get fixed.

Without a doubt this is tragic, but no one who hasn't done the job understands the distractions and workload that typically happens in pharmacy.

The usual legal remedy for this has been through civil action, which is what happens with other practitioners.

If the standard is perfection or jail, I should be either paid ten times more for the risk or we all need to quit.

None of you could do the job day in and day out without something going wrong. In fact pharmacists routinely wind up being the filter for prescribe errors. I can't tell you how many WTF? moments I've had.

I feel sorry for all involved, but jail is ridiculous. If he goes to jail, then all providers need to.

I think he just hit the wrong person's kid. Lady looked like she had a ton of money and all the time in the world to make someone (anyone) pay for the death of her kid.

If that had been some kid out of the ghetto, there wouldn't have even been an investigation.

 

[IEC]

I can completely relate. If I screw up, worst case is that someone dies.

 

[JM Aggie08]

Some of ya'll should shut the fuck up and go back to coding.