This is starting to piss me off

[marffeus]

I am starting to reconsider purchasing the AMD64 FX-53 Socket 939 Chip. I am building a customized desktop and this was going to be my cpu, but recently I have seen an aggrevating trend....

Originally I had the cpu priced for a hefty $811 retail at Newegg.com. Then I saw ZipZoomFly.com had the retail chip for $810, so I said hey, what the hell, I'll save that extra dollar....

So I kept checking Newegg and ZipZoomFly to make see if prices of any of the parts I am putting in my computer we're by chance going to go down... nope

In fact, Newegg.com increased the chip's price to $875 where it has sat for a while.

ZipZoomFly on the other hand has done it's price increaes in increments. When NewEgg increased the price by $64, I decided I would buy from ZipZoomFly. I mean the difference between $810 and $875 would be enough for anyone to buy the cheaper one...

-Then a few days later ZipZoomFly increased its price of the chip to $825
-Then 4 days later they increased the price again to $840 (I can't remember the exact integer)
-Then a few days later it jumped again to $855. By now I was getting nervous and wondering if I should jump the gun and buy this chip now before it reaches a $1000.....
-Now I checked today and its $869 :disgust: :|

What is with this? I really wish I had gotten on board the FX-53 train when it was $810, but now I am so pissed at these retailers I figure I should just get a socket 939 3800+ or 3500+ for a less volatile, cheaper price.

I know at those kind of prices that a $60 difference is minimal (around 8%) But its still very annoying to me and it makes me want to just forgo this damn AMD and go for a different chip.

/rant

 

[orangat]

The FX chips aren't exactly marketed for the mainstream market. So I wouldn;t be surprised to see some upward fluctuation in the prices.

Curious but what are you using your PC for - work mostly? Is it worth that much over the A64s?

 

[Avalon]

FX chips are a complete waste of money. I don't think an extra $400 is worth upward unlocked multipliers. If anything, I'd think most big overclockers would want to work on the HTT speed and not the multipliers higher than default. Are you even planning on overclocking this?

 

[marffeus]

Originally posted by: orangat
The FX chips aren't exactly marketed for the mainstream market. So I wouldn;t be surprised to see some upward fluctuation in the prices.

Curious but what are you using your PC for - work mostly? Is it worth that much over the A64s?

I will be playing games on it alot, along with other college assignments heh.


And yes Avalon, I do plan on some mild over clocking.

 

[justly]

Considering a $800+ CPU purchase and trying to save $1 just don?t go together. Sounds to me like you need to be more realistic about your purchase in relation to your budget.

 

[marffeus]

Originally posted by: justly
Considering a $800+ CPU purchase and trying to save $1 just don?t go together. Sounds to me like you need to be more realistic about your purchase in relation to your budget.

Um, but why not save where you can? Both are reliable companies are they not? And I have a very large budget, which is why I am considering this chip, but just because you have a large budget does not mean you should just squander it away.

 

[Mik3y]

dont forget shipping. i think newegg's shipping is free compared to zipzoomfly.

 

[DaNorthface]

for $800, why not jsut a dual cpu setup

 

[marffeus]

Originally posted by: Mik3y
dont forget shipping. i think newegg's shipping is free compared to zipzoomfly.

Thats true but ZipZoomFly offers free 2nd day (pretty nice deal actually)

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: DaNorthface
for $800, why not jsut a dual cpu setup

Because a dual setup is pretty much useless... There is hardly anything to take advantage of it.

EDIT: On newegg the OEM version is only $799

 

[FlameDeer]

Thats true but ZipZoomFly offers free 2nd day (pretty nice deal actually)

That is true but you actually wasting your time being waiting (weeks or months) since from the beginning.

Relax and sit down to think about what you really need.
Think about is it urgent or not and is your budget tight or not.

Now, it can't be wrong if you get a 3800+ that won't fail you and you save $100 for other upgrades or shipment!
If you are not urgent to get a new rig then why not save your bucks for future more awesome upgrade!

If you really need a new rig NOW, buy it before next month or so! Price of accesories (cpu, ram, .....) will go up when major computer company begin to purchase and prepare for their year end holiday sale systems!

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

with the release of the sempron cpu,AMD actually increased the pricing of all the AMD64s(not the opterons, i don't think).

 

[clarkey01]

yeah, doesnt sound too good a move , cheers Hector

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: cobalt

Originally posted by: DaNorthface
for $800, why not jsut a dual cpu setup

Because a dual setup is pretty much useless... There is hardly anything to take advantage of it.

EDIT: On newegg the OEM version is only $799

do u even know how a dual setup works? basically everything takes advantage of it. it just allows u to multi-task faaar better then 1 setup, though if u want a dually with fx-53 speeds, then it'll cost u over $2500 just for the ram, cpu, and mobo. duallys one single's!

 

[FullRoast]

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: cobalt

Originally posted by: DaNorthface
for $800, why not jsut a dual cpu setup

Because a dual setup is pretty much useless... There is hardly anything to take advantage of it.

EDIT: On newegg the OEM version is only $799

do u even know how a dual setup works? basically everything takes advantage of it. it just allows u to multi-task faaar better then 1 setup, though if u want a dually with fx-53 speeds, then it'll cost u over $2500 just for the ram, cpu, and mobo. duallys one single's!

I think cobalt meant that most (all?) current games don't take advantage of a dual cpu system. Most other tasks aren't as cpu intensive, so a gamer would be more inclined to spend the money on the fastest cpu they can afford rather than a dual system that multitasks better. At least that's my guess!

 

[DaNorthface]

Originally posted by: FullRoast

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: cobalt

Originally posted by: DaNorthface
for $800, why not jsut a dual cpu setup

Because a dual setup is pretty much useless... There is hardly anything to take advantage of it.

EDIT: On newegg the OEM version is only $799

do u even know how a dual setup works? basically everything takes advantage of it. it just allows u to multi-task faaar better then 1 setup, though if u want a dually with fx-53 speeds, then it'll cost u over $2500 just for the ram, cpu, and mobo. duallys one single's!

I think cobalt meant that most (all?) current games don't take advantage of a dual cpu system. Most other tasks aren't as cpu intensive, so a gamer would be more inclined to spend the money on the fastest cpu they can afford rather than a dual system that multitasks better. At least that's my guess!

but most games are dependent on the graphics card.

 

[DaNorthface]

only $400 for dual xp mobiles at 2.5 ghz or more. When you're paying $800 for a cpu, you know that over 90% of that is profit - and in a few months it'll be less than half of what you paid.

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: FullRoast

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: cobalt

Originally posted by: DaNorthface
for $800, why not jsut a dual cpu setup

Because a dual setup is pretty much useless... There is hardly anything to take advantage of it.

EDIT: On newegg the OEM version is only $799

do u even know how a dual setup works? basically everything takes advantage of it. it just allows u to multi-task faaar better then 1 setup, though if u want a dually with fx-53 speeds, then it'll cost u over $2500 just for the ram, cpu, and mobo. duallys one single's!

I think cobalt meant that most (all?) current games don't take advantage of a dual cpu system. Most other tasks aren't as cpu intensive, so a gamer would be more inclined to spend the money on the fastest cpu they can afford rather than a dual system that multitasks better. At least that's my guess!

You got it FullRoast.

EDIT: Northface, you also pay the premium for the motherboard.

 

[DaNorthface]

Originally posted by: cobalt

Originally posted by: FullRoast

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: cobalt

Originally posted by: DaNorthface
for $800, why not jsut a dual cpu setup

Because a dual setup is pretty much useless... There is hardly anything to take advantage of it.

EDIT: On newegg the OEM version is only $799

do u even know how a dual setup works? basically everything takes advantage of it. it just allows u to multi-task faaar better then 1 setup, though if u want a dually with fx-53 speeds, then it'll cost u over $2500 just for the ram, cpu, and mobo. duallys one single's!

I think cobalt meant that most (all?) current games don't take advantage of a dual cpu system. Most other tasks aren't as cpu intensive, so a gamer would be more inclined to spend the money on the fastest cpu they can afford rather than a dual system that multitasks better. At least that's my guess!

You got it FullRoast.

EDIT: Northface, you also pay the premium for the motherboard.

the $400 i said for the two bartons at 2.5 ghz is with the motherboard and cpus. The premium for any socket A equipment is a lot less.

 

[Zebo]

You guys and your overpriced CPU's. Yes if you want the best, we're talking 0-25% difference, over a real cheap A-XP or P4, then you have to pay 400-700% more money. Personally I have better things to buy.

Anyway why not get an opteron 150 socket 940, it's only $618 and does the same thing. It's not unlocked...but that's overrated anyway...upping HTT gives more performance than upping multi at same Mhz.

 

[DaNorthface]

or think of it this way.. when are you going to upgrade again after this?? Why not get dual bartons - that'll hold you for a year or two, then go a head and by the FX setup when it's at a reasonable price. This way, you get a lot more for your money.

 

[justly]

Originally posted by: marffeus

Originally posted by: justly
Considering a $800+ CPU purchase and trying to save $1 just don?t go together. Sounds to me like you need to be more realistic about your purchase in relation to your budget.

Um, but why not save where you can? Both are reliable companies are they not? And I have a very large budget, which is why I am considering this chip, but just because you have a large budget does not mean you should just squander it away.

What can you get with a dollar? ... In your case a dollar could have got you the system you wanted, when you wanted it, and without all the headaches, sounds like a good deal to me.

If your time and trouble isn?t worth 1 dollar then I guess you made the right choice :roll:

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: DaNorthface
or think of it this way.. when are you going to upgrade again after this?? Why not get dual bartons - that'll hold you for a year or two, then go a head and by the FX setup when it's at a reasonable price. This way, you get a lot more for your money.

Or since he has the money to burn, he can just get a 3500+ and oc it to 3800+/53 speeds and then up to say 55 or w/e when he feels like it.

 

[Safeway]

FX is a waste of money. I'd get P4 EE anyday. Real benefits.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: cobalt

Originally posted by: FullRoast

Originally posted by: Mik3y

Originally posted by: cobalt

Originally posted by: DaNorthface
for $800, why not jsut a dual cpu setup

Because a dual setup is pretty much useless... There is hardly anything to take advantage of it.

EDIT: On newegg the OEM version is only $799

do u even know how a dual setup works? basically everything takes advantage of it. it just allows u to multi-task faaar better then 1 setup, though if u want a dually with fx-53 speeds, then it'll cost u over $2500 just for the ram, cpu, and mobo. duallys one single's!

I think cobalt meant that most (all?) current games don't take advantage of a dual cpu system. Most other tasks aren't as cpu intensive, so a gamer would be more inclined to spend the money on the fastest cpu they can afford rather than a dual system that multitasks better. At least that's my guess!

You got it FullRoast.

EDIT: Northface, you also pay the premium for the motherboard.

Anything based on the Quake3 engine will benefit from SMP. DoomIII reportedly takes serious advantage of an SMP setup. Keep in mind that tons of games will be based off that engine.

If I had an $800 CPU budget, I would want a duallie. Honestly in your position I would get the 3500+ and overclock it. As others have said, FSB is where it's at. Put the money you'll save towards some decent memory.