i would except i really really really really really really really don't wan't the texacutioner in the white house. it's too close to vote for nader.
The liberals who constantly chanted "Character doesn't matter" are now trying to use the issue. Laughable.
That bimbo reporter is soooo dim that she was easy to lead down the garden path to whatever the Democratic operatives wanted to feed her.
Think about it: It's a few days before the election, your guys gonna lose, you need to come up with something, ANYTHING to try and derail the inevitable. What to do? Hmmm...howsabouts digging up a 24 year old story? Now, how to get the story out without making it look like the dirty trick it is? Hey, I know. We'll find some small-town jerkwater reporterette in the area it happened and we'll have a Gore delegate and failed Dem. candidate for gov send a cop (acting on her own, not worried about her job, I'm sure) go "ask" the reporter if this is true and to point her out to the guy with all the handy documents.
Puh-leeze...
Gore can't win without lies, dirty tricks and fear-mongering. He's a pussy.
That bimbo reporter is soooo dim that she was easy to lead down the garden path to whatever the Democratic operatives wanted to feed her.
Think about it: It's a few days before the election, your guys gonna lose, you need to come up with something, ANYTHING to try and derail the inevitable. What to do? Hmmm...howsabouts digging up a 24 year old story? Now, how to get the story out without making it look like the dirty trick it is? Hey, I know. We'll find some small-town jerkwater reporterette in the area it happened and we'll have a Gore delegate and failed Dem. candidate for gov send a cop (acting on her own, not worried about her job, I'm sure) go "ask" the reporter if this is true and to point her out to the guy with all the handy documents.
Puh-leeze...
Gore can't win without lies, dirty tricks and fear-mongering. He's a pussy.
And the GOP said character does matter.
Bush will restore honor and integrity to the Oval Office?
Btw, nice conspiracy theory Dirk.
Got any proof?
Bush will restore honor and integrity to the Oval Office?
Btw, nice conspiracy theory Dirk.
Got any proof?
Duke...pull your plug and bleed out, mmmkay?
Flip it! What proof do YOU have that there's been a coverup? If this scandal involved Clinton, the files would've disappeared and the cop would've mysteriously died. Do you think that with Bush's alleged connections that they couldn't have made all this stuff so away? Hmmmm? The Kennedy's have gotten away with MURDER and are hailed as America's Royal Family.:disgust:
Can't wait to hear your (and Red Dawn's and TShot's and I'm Typing's)
screams of agony as the sun rises next Wednesday and y'all just explode into dark powder.
Flip it! What proof do YOU have that there's been a coverup? If this scandal involved Clinton, the files would've disappeared and the cop would've mysteriously died. Do you think that with Bush's alleged connections that they couldn't have made all this stuff so away? Hmmmm? The Kennedy's have gotten away with MURDER and are hailed as America's Royal Family.:disgust:
Can't wait to hear your (and Red Dawn's and TShot's and I'm Typing's)
screams of agony as the sun rises next Wednesday and y'all just explode into dark powder.
Coverup? What coverup?
You're fond of asking everyone to back up their statements so I merely asked you to back up yours.
How this story was broken comes right from FOX.
And FOX broke the story nationally.
You're fond of asking everyone to back up their statements so I merely asked you to back up yours.
How this story was broken comes right from FOX.
And FOX broke the story nationally.
Yup,
here it goes again.
Or is this just another "lively" discussion Tripleshot?
Actually, this is just getting hilarious now.
I'd rather see the debates resemble these threads.
here it goes again.
Or is this just another "lively" discussion Tripleshot?
Actually, this is just getting hilarious now.
I'd rather see the debates resemble these threads.
<< Yup, and it was a Democrat that held the bottle to his head and told him to drink >>
Yeah, Moonie, just like it was a Republican who unzipped Slick Willy's fly and shoved Monica's face down there.
BTW, I noticed that the liberal apologists seem to have completely overlooked Bore's son's DUI from a few months ago that mysteriously vanished. Strangely, the boy didn't even have to go to court.
Russ, NCNE
<< The liberals who constantly chanted "Character doesn't matter" are now trying to use the issue. Laughable. >>
The conservatives who constantly wailed "Character DOES matter" are trying to downplay the issue. Pathetic. Hypocrites.
Russ: Gore's son DID go to court, for SPEEDING, and he was convicted...unless we are talking about someone else. Oh and when was Gore's SON running for President?
Typing,
He was pulled over for DRUNK DRIVING. The issue that you libs are popping off with is coverup. This makes his arrest very relevant to the topic at hand since that is precisely what happened.
Russ, NCNE
He was pulled over for DRUNK DRIVING. The issue that you libs are popping off with is coverup. This makes his arrest very relevant to the topic at hand since that is precisely what happened.
Russ, NCNE
Let us not forget that although Bush got caught driving while drunk and admits he was wrong, both Clinton and Gore have NEVER addressed their use of ILLEGAL drugs. Unlike allegations aimed at Bush, there are eye witnesses to bot Clinton and Gore's
ILLEGAL usage.
BTW, if everyone that has driven after drinking were excluded from Public Office DC would be emty!
Red Dawn..I stll think you are awfully funny still proclaiming McCain as the man for the job as he has been actively campaigning for Bush. LOL!
ILLEGAL usage.
BTW, if everyone that has driven after drinking were excluded from Public Office DC would be emty!
Red Dawn..I stll think you are awfully funny still proclaiming McCain as the man for the job as he has been actively campaigning for Bush. LOL!
The real, present-day question is one of honesty. Why did/does Jr Bush sidestep the questions about his history of drug use and drinking? (Not quite a lie.)
Why did he tell the Dallas Morning News two years ago that he has not been arrested since the '60s? (A pretty firm lie.)
Why did he try to minimize the issue by stating his failings were in his youth? Thirty years old is way past the age one might expect people to have matured.
I don't care about the ancient history, but the evidence of more recent evasiveness is an issue.
Cheney admitted his DUIs, why didn't Jr?
Jr Bush set himself up as the pillar of virtue. None of this debate would be occurring had he been forthright from the start.
And I don't see how anything done by Gore's son has any bearing on this discussion at all. Leave the families out. I found it disgusting when people were trying to make an issue of the sexual preference of Cheney's daughter too.
Why did he tell the Dallas Morning News two years ago that he has not been arrested since the '60s? (A pretty firm lie.)
Why did he try to minimize the issue by stating his failings were in his youth? Thirty years old is way past the age one might expect people to have matured.
I don't care about the ancient history, but the evidence of more recent evasiveness is an issue.
Cheney admitted his DUIs, why didn't Jr?
Jr Bush set himself up as the pillar of virtue. None of this debate would be occurring had he been forthright from the start.
And I don't see how anything done by Gore's son has any bearing on this discussion at all. Leave the families out. I found it disgusting when people were trying to make an issue of the sexual preference of Cheney's daughter too.
Um,
We have no first amendment rights to post on anandtech, whoever said that is lacking in the legal knowledge arena.
The difference between drug use and drunk driving is that you endanger others. I mean if Bush wants to careen off a ledge while drunk, that's one thing. If he wants to try and take Tennis great Newcombe with him, well that's a whole different story.
I for one don't think Bush's drinking problem is all that big of a deal. What I think is a big deal is that he didn't get punished like people would today. He should count himself lucky with that fine he got. $150? Is that a joke? 1 month driving suspension but only in Maine. Whoopee. I also find it annoying that he makes it sound like his choice to quit drinking many years later was such a great act. Let's see.. gets arrested, then many years later quits. What willpower.
The whole thing sounds awfully fishy, I must admit, but I guess in the Machiavellian tradition I'll say that the ends hopefully will justify the means. Now would be a good time for a guy like Ventura to come in and announce his candidacy at the last second, while we are confused and could easily be stunned by a drop kick to the noggin.
We have no first amendment rights to post on anandtech, whoever said that is lacking in the legal knowledge arena.
The difference between drug use and drunk driving is that you endanger others. I mean if Bush wants to careen off a ledge while drunk, that's one thing. If he wants to try and take Tennis great Newcombe with him, well that's a whole different story.
I for one don't think Bush's drinking problem is all that big of a deal. What I think is a big deal is that he didn't get punished like people would today. He should count himself lucky with that fine he got. $150? Is that a joke? 1 month driving suspension but only in Maine. Whoopee. I also find it annoying that he makes it sound like his choice to quit drinking many years later was such a great act. Let's see.. gets arrested, then many years later quits. What willpower.
The whole thing sounds awfully fishy, I must admit, but I guess in the Machiavellian tradition I'll say that the ends hopefully will justify the means. Now would be a good time for a guy like Ventura to come in and announce his candidacy at the last second, while we are confused and could easily be stunned by a drop kick to the noggin.
Russ: He was pulled over because he was clocked by radar doing 93 mph. That does not constitute drunk driving. An officer cannot determine if a person is drunk without administering the proper sobriety test. In other words, NOBODY is pulled over for "drunk driving."
You have a great reputation for sticking to the facts. Please do not tarnish it with conjecture and rumor.
You have a great reputation for sticking to the facts. Please do not tarnish it with conjecture and rumor.
I agree that the main issue here is not only that he committed a crime, but that he has covered it up and purposely evaded questions about it. Gore openly admitted his drug before he was elected to the Vice Presidency. He didn't try and dodge around it saying that he was immature and had done some things things in the past that he would like to forget about. He was asked a direct question and he gave a direct answer. Bush was actually asked about getting a DUI after he was summoned for jury duty for a DUI trial in Texas and he totally talked around it, saying that he had drinken a lot when he was younger and done some things he wasn't proud of. He was asked a direct question and gave a cryptic, evasive answer, and that's the difference. The democrats have not made this election a character issue, it has been the republicans on the attack ever since the first debate where Gore demonstrated his superiority when it comes to the issues. Bush can't win on issues, he has to win on character. Just cause he didn't have the character to admit what he did any one of the many times he has been asked about it, don't blame the democrats for some kindof bad politics. The American people deserve to know about their president's past and they also deserve straight answers to their questions, I guess these are two things that Bush doesn't believe the American public needs. If he was smart he wouldn't have hidden it, and now it's too late.
This whole thing is a pile!
Bush-lite was DUI 25 years ago. So fscking what! When confronted with it, he finally found the courage to acknowledge it. the charcter flaw, here, is that he didn't just cop to it a long time ago. Same with the cocaine business. Frankly, I don't care what he did 25 years ago. I do care that he didn't have the balls to just put it out there as part of his past, only because it raises the question of what else could lurk there, undisclosed, YET.
So it was a Dem who outed him. Whoever it was had to be of one stripe or another. Once again, so fscking what!
I'm not happy with either choice, but Curious George is a few too many neurons short behind those beady eyes. I don't trust him to be qualified to deal with the office, and I will not support his acknowledged inclinations regarding the Supreme Court. It didn't take a DUI to convince me that he just is not qualified to be President.
Now, it's time to roast Fox and Drudge, the credibility twins! Yikes!
Bush-lite was DUI 25 years ago. So fscking what! When confronted with it, he finally found the courage to acknowledge it. the charcter flaw, here, is that he didn't just cop to it a long time ago. Same with the cocaine business. Frankly, I don't care what he did 25 years ago. I do care that he didn't have the balls to just put it out there as part of his past, only because it raises the question of what else could lurk there, undisclosed, YET.
So it was a Dem who outed him. Whoever it was had to be of one stripe or another. Once again, so fscking what!
I'm not happy with either choice, but Curious George is a few too many neurons short behind those beady eyes. I don't trust him to be qualified to deal with the office, and I will not support his acknowledged inclinations regarding the Supreme Court. It didn't take a DUI to convince me that he just is not qualified to be President.
Now, it's time to roast Fox and Drudge, the credibility twins! Yikes!
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My gosh, do you realize how many people have held the office of President and held many secrets the American people didnt know. ALL of them..just read all about it when they die. If you are that naive then you should go read some more. How many of you really care what happened 24 years ago in an incident that did no personal damage to anyone. Many of you arent even 24 years old, and have done worse things I bet. Judge on the issues and the overall belief that no one can promise anything and come through without the support of Congress and the Senate, and vote for the person who you believe will be able to bring those governing bodies together to do the most good for our country. Most of this campaign crap is worthless.
And just a note about the fine of 150.00... 24 years ago that wasnt chicken feed..of course for a rich boy it prolly was. I can remember working in 1972, 6 day work week in restaurant, 4 Pm till sometimes 3 AM, but usually 11PM. I got 55.00 take home. Think 150.00 was chickenfeed back then? And DUI was not nearly as a forbidden crime back then, the MADD movement and such had not even been thought of 24 years ago.
And just a note about the fine of 150.00... 24 years ago that wasnt chicken feed..of course for a rich boy it prolly was. I can remember working in 1972, 6 day work week in restaurant, 4 Pm till sometimes 3 AM, but usually 11PM. I got 55.00 take home. Think 150.00 was chickenfeed back then? And DUI was not nearly as a forbidden crime back then, the MADD movement and such had not even been thought of 24 years ago.
Back to add that the one thing that bothers me most about this is that Georgy has spent so much of his recent rhetoric decrying how untruthful Gore is. Funny how, preveiously, he didn't admit to this, even when asked, directly!
The pot calls the kettle noir!
The pot calls the kettle noir!
And now, when GW is presented with cold hard truth, somehow him admiting it is a sign of character?
He dodged the issue before, maybe even lied about it. This time he couldn't use the "I've made mistakes" excuse. What other "mistakes" did this guy make.
I'm sure if Clinton said "I've made mistakes" and that's it, everything would have been peachy.
Or how about Bush using his daughter's as an excuse?
Maybe Clinton should have used Chelsea as his excuse for not admitting to anything.
He dodged the issue before, maybe even lied about it. This time he couldn't use the "I've made mistakes" excuse. What other "mistakes" did this guy make.
I'm sure if Clinton said "I've made mistakes" and that's it, everything would have been peachy.
Or how about Bush using his daughter's as an excuse?
Maybe Clinton should have used Chelsea as his excuse for not admitting to anything.
>>>Maybe Clinton should have used Chelsea as his excuse for not admitting to anything. <<<
He did, and rightly so. The radical right wing of the republican party would have none of that. The rest is history.
He did, and rightly so. The radical right wing of the republican party would have none of that. The rest is history.
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