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This is just plain fscked up.

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iwearnosox

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Yeah probably belongs in P&N but I hate that forum. This really, really pisses me off.

"Initial research that led to Norvir?s discovery was financed in part by taxpayers, through a $3.5 million NIH grant."

"Abbott Laboratories more than quadrupled Norvir?s price late last year, to $8.57 a day from $1.71."

"A 24-year-old law gives the National Institutes of Health the right to do that, but the government has never invoked its so-called march-in rights."

Corporate profits while people suffer. Proud to be an American. :roll:

Wrong Forum
 
Maybe you should live in Canada or some other country where the government regulates the prices of everything?
 
This is why i hope there is a catastrophe and all technology is destroyed and forgotten about and we go back to being savage cavepeople. At least everybody gets the same healthcare! (none)

Kinda unfair to be in a world where your longevity/quality of life (in terms of health) is determined by your wealth 🙁
 
Screw that. If I'm a drug company I should be able to charge WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT, even if its a cure for cancer, AIDS or whatever.
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Yea, cuz Bush fvcking blows :roll:
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I'd have to agree. I dislike Bush as much as the next fellow, and won't be voting for him this fall, but this is hardly to blame on him. It's just economics at work.
 
yeah this is all bush's doing! not that anything like this has happened under clinton or would happen under kerry.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
yeah this is all bush's doing! not that anything like this has happened under clinton or would happen under kerry.
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Well, Hillary wants to provide sh!tty healthcare for everyone, so maybe not
 
They should be allowed to charge what they want, without government interference. You'd think they'd have the decency not to overcharge like that, but it's not the government's fault.
 
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
probably belongs in P&N
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Why, you're absolutely right! On your way there, make sure to give away money you need to get by; if you can, give it to people who need it due to their own foolish choices in life and not circumstance.
 
look at this from the drug makers point of view,

AIDS is a big money maker


that is why their will never be a cure, its better to make the infected people live longer with treatments so they can buy more drugs *expensive drugs* every day for the rest of their lives, rather than a single expensive cure that only has to be conducted once.


If someone were to develope a cure on their own, i would imagine that they would kill him if they could before it got out.
 
Originally posted by: tRaptor
Screw that. If I'm a drug company I should be able to charge WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT, even if its a cure for cancer, AIDS or whatever.
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but tax payers helped pay for the research that your product is based on, this is the government lacking ethics.

lets all hope you get cancer, aids and an irs audit.
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
AIDS is a big money maker


that is why their will never be a cure, its better to make the infected people live longer with treatments so they can buy more drugs *expensive drugs* every day for the rest of their lives, rather than a single expensive cure that only has to be conducted once.
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werd
 
Originally posted by: tRaptor
Screw that. If I'm a drug company I should be able to charge WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT, even if its a cure for cancer, AIDS or whatever.
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Yes, but if the government paid for the research that resulted in the patent for that drug, it should be able to give that patent to WHOEVER THE HELL IT WANTS, even if the drug company doesn't like it or whatever.
 
I find it interesting that the article blast the drug companies for the price of drugs and lists the markup of each one. What it does not mention, however, it the cost of research and development, and the cost of insurance against all the lawsuits that are brought by everyone who a)doesn?t read drug labels b)misuse the drugs and/or c)get silly procedures like breast implants, etc and then sue when they don?t like it.

I agree that we pay WAY too much for drugs, No doubt about it. But? perhaps if we get rid of the ambulance chasing lawyers and stopped selling drugs to other countries for less than we pay for them, it might not be so bad. And, of course, we can always put and end to R&D so the drug companies would not have anything to overcharge for!

The government has no business overriding the patents on anyone.

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
probably belongs in P&N
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Why, you're absolutely right! On your way there, make sure to give away money you need to get by; if you can, give it to people who need it due to their own foolish choices in life and not circumstance.
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Like aids babies?
 
Originally posted by: KarenMarie
I find it interesting that the article blast the drug companies for the price of drugs and lists the markup of each one. What it does not mention, however, it the cost of research and development, and the cost of insurance against all the lawsuits that are brought by everyone who a)doesn?t read drug labels b)misuse the drugs and/or c)get silly procedures like breast implants, etc and then sue when they don?t like it.

I agree that we pay WAY too much for drugs, No doubt about it. But? perhaps if we get rid of the ambulance chasing lawyers and stopped selling drugs to other countries for less than we pay for them, it might not be so bad. And, of course, we can always put and end to R&D so the drug companies would not have anything to overcharge for!

The government has no business overriding the patents on anyone.

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Not if it pays for the research. Abbott took the govt money with strings attached. It's the government that's choosing not to pull those strings. $9/day is more than some people spend on food. They'll have to spend that on just one pill. That is after their tax dollars paid for the research.
Oh, and the reason American drug companies sell drugs much cheaper in other countries, is because their governments actually put their citizens first. They put in price caps, they threaten to bypass the patents. Our government puts those companies ahead of the people, so we get screwed.
 
Originally posted by: tRaptor
Screw that. If I'm a drug company I should be able to charge WHATEVER THE HELL I WANT, even if its a cure for cancer, AIDS or whatever.
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thats a very reasoned and intelligent response.

it's shocking the level of intelligence we can find in ATOT.



oh btw, even the truest of Free Market Economists believes that Monopoly situations are harmful to the overall economy, so, a company should NOT "be able to charge WHATEVER THE HELL" they want.
 
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