This is fun - babies thrown off tower for good luck

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Who would have thought there would be so many people defending the practice of throwing babies off a building...you guys disturb me.

If they were throwing them into a pit of lava, or into a pit filled with angry pit bulls, I'd agree with you...

But in this case, they are being dropped flat, back-first onto a padded apparatus that is surrounded by adults who quickly snap up the child.

You don't have to agree with it -- but I at least try to keep an open mind to other people's cultures to a certain extent. And in this case, I don't think any real serious harm (intentional or not) is being done.

:thumbsup:

the ignorance in this thread is astounding.

 

[Random Variable]

Could ethnic cleansing be considered part of one's culture?

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Do any of the babies get hurt? I doubt it, or they wouldn't do it.

There's a little known tribe deep in the forests of the amazon that dangle kids by the feet from the windows of SUVs traveling 40 mph, I suppose they're equally excused?

Sorry did you misunderstand me and then reply with a classic and ignorant extreme scenario? There was no mention of the babies getting hurt in the video. And as I said before I doubt they would hurt their children intentionally like this. This would be a big deal if many of the children that were thrown from the wall were getting injured.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Random Variable
Could ethnic cleansing be considered part of one's culture?

Sure, why not? Just because it's different...don't knock it you racist, intolerant bastard!

 

[Farley2k]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Genital mutilation is a time honored tradition in many muslim countries, are you defending them?

Good god, I would say use your brain but that's obviously what got you into this hyper-relativistic frame of mind to begin with.

genital mutilation is a time honored tradition in Jewish and Christian culture as well - anyone circumcised? Oh wait, when American's mutilate a new born's body it is probably ok....talk about hyper-relativistic.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Xcobra

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Xcobra

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Do any of the babies get hurt? I doubt it, or they wouldn't do it.

There's a little known tribe deep in the forests of the amazon that dangle kids by the feet from the windows of SUVs traveling 40 mph, I suppose they're equally excused?

well then go tell them its wrong and see what you get...As I may disagree with what they are doing with those babies, I do see the fact that it is something I, or anyone else for that matter, can't change. It's like someone from a third world country comes over here and tells you to stop eating pig because it is prohibited in their culture, same thing. It is culture, we are all different, but you dont have to agree with it. MHO

I'm not sure how to break this to you but pigs /= babies

I guess ignorance is bliss...you're missing the point. Besides it's they're lives, you can't just go into their territory and tell them what they should do. It is stupid and again, ignorant.

What, you seriously think I fail to understand your point? Get over yourself.

My points were entirely valid in illustrating the absurd extant of your relativistic justification and your only response was "well then go tell them its wrong and see what you get". Look, it's one thing for me to have to explain to a culture why it is wrong for them to mutilate genitals, drop babies from roofs, or have sex with a dozen 6th grade girls. I can't change them, that doesn't make them right and your logic is retarded in that sense. It's an entirely different situation when I have to explain to someone who comes from a background where he as the ability to appreciate the sanctity of an INFANTS life just why it is INEXCUSABLE to drop babies from rooftops.

Again, if you missed it the first time; not being able to stop en entire culture from being barbaric does not make what they're doing any less destructive, macabre, and inhumane. Pull your head out of your ass for two seconds and that might sink in.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Farley2k

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Genital mutilation is a time honored tradition in many muslim countries, are you defending them?

Good god, I would say use your brain but that's obviously what got you into this hyper-relativistic frame of mind to begin with.

genital mutilation is a time honored tradition in Jewish and Christian culture as well - anyone circumcised? Oh wait, when American's mutilate a new born's body it is probably ok....talk about hyper-relativistic.

circumcision != clitoral removal

 

[clamum]

Why is babby dropped?

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Do any of the babies get hurt? I doubt it, or they wouldn't do it.

There's a little known tribe deep in the forests of the amazon that dangle kids by the feet from the windows of SUVs traveling 40 mph, I suppose they're equally excused?

Sorry did you misunderstand me and then reply with a classic and ignorant extreme scenario? There was no mention of the babies getting hurt in the video. And as I said before I doubt they would hurt their children intentionally like this. This would be a big deal if many of the children that were thrown from the wall were getting injured.

Ok Mr. Pickles, you got me! My analogy above where no children were hurt is entirely different than dropping kids from roof tops where kids may or may not be hurt. Touche'!

And think for a moment, PLEASE, about the assumptions you're making. If these people have been dropping babies from rooftops for generation do you SERIOUSLY THINK not a single baby was hurt? Of course they were, they just weren't "lucky."

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Farley2k

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Genital mutilation is a time honored tradition in many muslim countries, are you defending them?

Good god, I would say use your brain but that's obviously what got you into this hyper-relativistic frame of mind to begin with.

genital mutilation is a time honored tradition in Jewish and Christian culture as well - anyone circumcised? Oh wait, when American's mutilate a new born's body it is probably ok....talk about hyper-relativistic.

ok did you just assume I'm a fan of circumcision? And did you just assume I'm a christian? No, you're smarter than that... aren't you?

EDIT:

One more thing, as far as being tolerant of cultural differences go; you do realize we're talking about throwing babies from rooftops and not whether or not we like curry, right?

 

[Farley2k]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Farley2k

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Genital mutilation is a time honored tradition in many muslim countries, are you defending them?

Good god, I would say use your brain but that's obviously what got you into this hyper-relativistic frame of mind to begin with.

genital mutilation is a time honored tradition in Jewish and Christian culture as well - anyone circumcised? Oh wait, when American's mutilate a new born's body it is probably ok....talk about hyper-relativistic.

circumcision != clitoral removal

Sorry, perhaps "genital reduction with scalpel " would sound better?



Which still misses the point. The point is that in the US it is considered perfectly acceptable to slice of portions of a newborn's body, but people are acting like drop a child into a sheet - which in no way physically harms the child!- is barbaric.

It is cultural relativism at the extreme.

 

[antyler]

holy crap. that makes me uncomfortable to watch that. gosh.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Farley2k

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Farley2k

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
Genital mutilation is a time honored tradition in many muslim countries, are you defending them?

Good god, I would say use your brain but that's obviously what got you into this hyper-relativistic frame of mind to begin with.

genital mutilation is a time honored tradition in Jewish and Christian culture as well - anyone circumcised? Oh wait, when American's mutilate a new born's body it is probably ok....talk about hyper-relativistic.

circumcision != clitoral removal

Sorry, perhaps "genital reduction with scalpel " would sound better?



Which still misses the point. The point is that in the US it is considered perfectly acceptable to slice of portions of a newborn's body, but people are acting like drop a child into a sheet - which in no way physically harms the child!- is barbaric.

It is cultural relativism at the extreme.

"And think for a moment, PLEASE, about the assumptions you're making. If these people have been dropping babies from rooftops for generation do you SERIOUSLY THINK not a single baby was hurt? Of course they were, they just weren't "lucky.""

 

[oznerol]

You guys are ridiculous. It seems like you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Most of us are smart enough to know this isn't the brightest idea. I know I wouldn't do it - and I doubt any of you would be pro-throwing your baby off a tower.

But if it's their culture, who the hell cares what they do? It's not like they're breaking into your house to steal your baby so they can drop it off a tower.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Do any of the babies get hurt? I doubt it, or they wouldn't do it.

There's a little known tribe deep in the forests of the amazon that dangle kids by the feet from the windows of SUVs traveling 40 mph, I suppose they're equally excused?

Sorry did you misunderstand me and then reply with a classic and ignorant extreme scenario? There was no mention of the babies getting hurt in the video. And as I said before I doubt they would hurt their children intentionally like this. This would be a big deal if many of the children that were thrown from the wall were getting injured.

Ok Mr. Pickles, you got me! My analogy above where no children were hurt is entirely different than dropping kids from roof tops where kids may or may not be hurt. Touche'!

And think for a moment, PLEASE, about the assumptions you're making. If these people have been dropping babies from rooftops for generation do you SERIOUSLY THINK not a single baby was hurt? Of course they were, they just weren't "lucky."

You aren't worth the effort, prick. Again, your little extremes outweigh your reading comprehension. Get off me.

Kids might be hurt during this, hence my note to it being an issue if "many of the children" and not just one or two of the children. Do you seriously think that I seriously think not a single baby was hurt?

Learn to make a point during a debate without needing extremes, capital letters and exclamation marks, i.e. grow the fuck up, and maybe we'll talk.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: ducci
You guys are ridiculous. It seems like you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Most of us are smart enough to know this isn't the brightest idea. I know I wouldn't do it - and I doubt any of you would be pro-throwing your baby off a tower.

But if it's their culture, who the hell cares what they do? It's not like they're breaking into your house to steal your baby so they can drop it off a tower.

Arguing for the sake of arguing... hmm...

I take you you're surprised little else is coming from a discussion on an internet forum?

Next time you try to take the high road make sure you're going the right direction because you just came across as pompous and foolish.

 

[Xcobra]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Xcobra

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Xcobra

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Do any of the babies get hurt? I doubt it, or they wouldn't do it.

There's a little known tribe deep in the forests of the amazon that dangle kids by the feet from the windows of SUVs traveling 40 mph, I suppose they're equally excused?

well then go tell them its wrong and see what you get...As I may disagree with what they are doing with those babies, I do see the fact that it is something I, or anyone else for that matter, can't change. It's like someone from a third world country comes over here and tells you to stop eating pig because it is prohibited in their culture, same thing. It is culture, we are all different, but you dont have to agree with it. MHO

I'm not sure how to break this to you but pigs /= babies

I guess ignorance is bliss...you're missing the point. Besides it's they're lives, you can't just go into their territory and tell them what they should do. It is stupid and again, ignorant.

What, you seriously think I fail to understand your point? Get over yourself.

My points were entirely valid in illustrating the absurd extant of your relativistic justification and your only response was "well then go tell them its wrong and see what you get". Look, it's one thing for me to have to explain to a culture why it is wrong for them to mutilate genitals, drop babies from roofs, or have sex with a dozen 6th grade girls. I can't change them, that doesn't make them right and your logic is retarded in that sense. It's an entirely different situation when I have to explain to someone who comes from a background where he as the ability to appreciate the sanctity of an INFANTS life just why it is INEXCUSABLE to drop babies from rooftops.

Again, if you missed it the first time; not being able to stop en entire culture from being barbaric does not make what they're doing any less destructive, macabre, and inhumane. Pull your head out of your ass for two seconds and that might sink in.

Dude, I agree in the fact that it is not right for them to do that.

But just because you were brought up to believe a set of believes makes it right for you to correct what others have been brought to believe? The world doesnt revolve around you, get YOUR head out of you FAT ass. I never said I agreed with it but accept that there are differences. But then again, who the fuck are you or me to judge? you can just pin point people who are doing wrong things, or at least what you believe is wrong, and expect to follow your own beliefs. That's just stupid. Get it in your little head that NO ONE believes what you believe.

 

[Nitemare]

Lol, the same people that got offended by the beloved patriot cheerleaders during a cricket match


Got to love their priorities in life.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Do any of the babies get hurt? I doubt it, or they wouldn't do it.

There's a little known tribe deep in the forests of the amazon that dangle kids by the feet from the windows of SUVs traveling 40 mph, I suppose they're equally excused?

Sorry did you misunderstand me and then reply with a classic and ignorant extreme scenario? There was no mention of the babies getting hurt in the video. And as I said before I doubt they would hurt their children intentionally like this. This would be a big deal if many of the children that were thrown from the wall were getting injured.

Ok Mr. Pickles, you got me! My analogy above where no children were hurt is entirely different than dropping kids from roof tops where kids may or may not be hurt. Touche'!

And think for a moment, PLEASE, about the assumptions you're making. If these people have been dropping babies from rooftops for generation do you SERIOUSLY THINK not a single baby was hurt? Of course they were, they just weren't "lucky."

You aren't worth the effort, prick. Again, your little extremes outweigh your reading comprehension. Get off me.

Kids might be hurt during this, hence my note to it being an issue if "many of the children" and not just one or two of the children. Do you seriously think that I seriously think not a single baby was hurt?

Learn to make a point during a debate without needing extremes, capital letters and exclamation marks, i.e. grow the fuck up, and maybe we'll talk.

ok champ

I'll take a few moments to bask in your international wisdom and perhaps then I too will come to realize that it's completely reasonable for a person to drop a baby from a rooftop.

*gosh!* You know, I'm already starting to appreciate how it's all just a matter of perspective! Thanks!:thumbsup:

 

[polarmystery]

This is very remeniscent(sp?) of abortion on how people think. I think they aren't dying and it's their custom and it's their perogative. Some think they are crazy and they should all be stopped. It's those arguments that cause people to go to war. Nothing to see here, move along folks...

 

[AmpedSilence]

So, I was curious about the CONTEXT and BACK STORY of why they do this and what it means to them.

Just got an email from my dad about it.

It's a small little podunk town 300 miles west of Bombay. Apperantly they are known for their textiles. Mostly a town of labor class people that still believe in this. I guess the best comparison that i can come up with is the rural Christian Churches that use snakes or that f'd up Westbro (the ones protesting gays at funerals) church or whatever. So, this is a religious extreme and with all religious extremes it's weird, foreign, and sorta messed up!

That really just put a location, but not really a reason as to why it evolved. I'll try to do some more digging.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: clamum
Why is babby dropped?

If only these babby could frigth back.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Do any of the babies get hurt? I doubt it, or they wouldn't do it.

There's a little known tribe deep in the forests of the amazon that dangle kids by the feet from the windows of SUVs traveling 40 mph, I suppose they're equally excused?

Sorry did you misunderstand me and then reply with a classic and ignorant extreme scenario? There was no mention of the babies getting hurt in the video. And as I said before I doubt they would hurt their children intentionally like this. This would be a big deal if many of the children that were thrown from the wall were getting injured.

Ok Mr. Pickles, you got me! My analogy above where no children were hurt is entirely different than dropping kids from roof tops where kids may or may not be hurt. Touche'!

And think for a moment, PLEASE, about the assumptions you're making. If these people have been dropping babies from rooftops for generation do you SERIOUSLY THINK not a single baby was hurt? Of course they were, they just weren't "lucky."

You aren't worth the effort, prick. Again, your little extremes outweigh your reading comprehension. Get off me.

Kids might be hurt during this, hence my note to it being an issue if "many of the children" and not just one or two of the children. Do you seriously think that I seriously think not a single baby was hurt?

Learn to make a point during a debate without needing extremes, capital letters and exclamation marks, i.e. grow the fuck up, and maybe we'll talk.

ok champ

I'll take a few moments to bask in your international wisdom and perhaps then I too will come to realize that it's completely reasonable for a person to drop a baby from a rooftop.

*gosh!* You know, I'm already starting to appreciate how it's all just a matter of perspective! Thanks!:thumbsup:

unfuckingbelievable. where are you from, son? P&N? You're worthless, I'm done.

 

[jjzelinski]

Originally posted by: Xcobra

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Xcobra

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Xcobra

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: Mr Pickles
Do any of the babies get hurt? I doubt it, or they wouldn't do it.

There's a little known tribe deep in the forests of the amazon that dangle kids by the feet from the windows of SUVs traveling 40 mph, I suppose they're equally excused?

well then go tell them its wrong and see what you get...As I may disagree with what they are doing with those babies, I do see the fact that it is something I, or anyone else for that matter, can't change. It's like someone from a third world country comes over here and tells you to stop eating pig because it is prohibited in their culture, same thing. It is culture, we are all different, but you dont have to agree with it. MHO

I'm not sure how to break this to you but pigs /= babies

I guess ignorance is bliss...you're missing the point. Besides it's they're lives, you can't just go into their territory and tell them what they should do. It is stupid and again, ignorant.

What, you seriously think I fail to understand your point? Get over yourself.

My points were entirely valid in illustrating the absurd extant of your relativistic justification and your only response was "well then go tell them its wrong and see what you get". Look, it's one thing for me to have to explain to a culture why it is wrong for them to mutilate genitals, drop babies from roofs, or have sex with a dozen 6th grade girls. I can't change them, that doesn't make them right and your logic is retarded in that sense. It's an entirely different situation when I have to explain to someone who comes from a background where he as the ability to appreciate the sanctity of an INFANTS life just why it is INEXCUSABLE to drop babies from rooftops.

Again, if you missed it the first time; not being able to stop en entire culture from being barbaric does not make what they're doing any less destructive, macabre, and inhumane. Pull your head out of your ass for two seconds and that might sink in.

Dude, I agree in the fact that it is not right for them to do that.

But just because you were brought up to believe a set of believes makes it right for you to correct what others have been brought to believe? The world doesnt revolve around you, get YOUR head out of you FAT ass. I never said I agreed with it but accept that there are differences. But then again, who the fuck are you or me to judge? you can just pin point people who are doing wrong things, or at least what you believe is wrong, and expect to follow your own beliefs. That's just stupid. Get it in your little head that NO ONE believes what you believe.

lol you guys rock, so now I'm fat too huh?

So if I were to boil this down to "there are no universal truths" you would unflinchingly agree with that, huh? No basic standards of human conduct?

Perhaps my perspective is a bit myopic in believing that and human should be able to differentiate between actions that are destructive and actions that aren't. P

You are so wrapped up in your own logical fallacies that you have completely removed your self from the most basic, instinctual, biological imperative that putting your species at risk by dropping progeny from rooftops is bad.

IT'S BAD.

simple, really

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: clamum
Why is babby dropped?

The first one that flies is Superman.