This is embarassing, but Vista kinda new to me.

[dalearyous]

so my first machine (this one) i have setup and working on the network. i have 2 drives that are shared and anyone can access, change, delete files etc...

my second machine is vista premium and i did the exact same thing on that as i did on mine however, the shared drives i cannot access them. i see them but can't access them. i can however access the computer's pubic folders. current settings:
network discovery: on
file sharing: on
public folder sharing: on
printer sharing: off
password protected sharing: off
media sharing: off

the drive that i am sharing has permissions set as:
Everyone: full control, change, read all checked

WHAT ELSE IS THERE?

 

[JackMDS]

Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html

As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.

Vista File and Printer Sharing- http://technet.microsoft.com/e.../library/bb727037.aspx

Windows XP File Sharing - http://support.microsoft.com/d...x?scid=kb;en-us;304040

Printer Sharing XP - http://www.microsoft.com/windo...t/honeycutt_july2.mspx

Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357

Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120

 

[dalearyous]

im not retarded or a noob. i have done all that. all machines are on the same workgroup and i have network access EVERY other way except from any machine to the media center pc...even though i set it up exactly as all the other machines

 

[JackMDS]

So tying to help you means trying to imply that you might be "retarded noob".

Strange I was expecting a thank you, but that is probably because I am "retarded" (with an IQ of 148).

 

[kstornado]

Is the guest account disabled on the Vista PC?

 

[J Dragon]

No one said you were retarded either....Wow people get highly deffensive on this forum I noticed. This place is not noob friendly at all....

Is full ownership claimed on all the drives as well?

 

[dalearyous]

wasn't being defensive...all he did was paste some links with guides to networking.

thats like the jerks that when someone needs help they google it and post links and end it with google is your friend

guest account is turned off and ownership claimed?

keep in mind the public folder works

 

[drebo]

The point of Jack's links were to tell you exactly how to configure what you're looking to configure, as you obviously don't know how to do it yourself.

Start from the beginning and follow Jack's guides and chances are, it'll work. He's been doing this for a while.

There's no shame in admitting you don't know how to do something. The shame and embarassment comes when you refuse help from someone who does.

 

[kstornado]

Taken from Jack's second link(Vista file sharing).

Windows Vista by default does not allow simple file sharing. Access to shared folders, including the public folder (if shared), requires a user name and password.

I'd suggest reading it to find out how to set it up correctly for your scenario.

 

[dalearyous]

i would like to apologize, this thread got the brunt of my frustration as a scrambled for, what i hoped to be a quick easy answer. i have read and re-read the links having to do with vista (all my machines are vista) and honestly nothing in those articles i didn't already know, however, i did go through them and double/triple checked all the settings in hopes of me forgetting something. btw, i have hooked up a windows xp machine to the network and it has the same problem accessing the computer as my vista machines

so i would like to start over. here is what i think a better explanation in more detail of what is wrong.

3 machines total...all have vista. everything works great between all 3. i can send, receive files, share printers etc...

HOWEVER, on one of the machines (the media center) i cannot for the life of me get any of the other computers on the network to access the files on the machine except its public folder because i have public sharing turned on. the MC pc can see everyone and access everyone on the network just not the other way around.

MC PC settings:
firewalls off for everyone on network
network discovery: on
file sharing: on
public folder sharing: on
printer sharing: off (dont need it)
password protected sharing: off
media sharing: off
no passwords on any users whatsoever
guest account turned off
network considered private
everyone is on the workgroup: WORKGROUP

the drive that i am sharing has permissions set as:
Everyone: full control, change, read ... all checked

when i click "show me all the shared folders on this computer" it brings up a window and has the folder i want shared showing.

this is the error i get when i access the drive on the network:
Windows cannot access \\computer\drive

when i click diagnose this shows:
"Windows cannot diagnose the problem because network diagnostics does not know the username and password that is required to connect to the shared folder"

 

[JackMDS]

For security reasons Vista does not allow Network access of the whole C:\ drive.

You can Map regular folders as drives (system and other OS related are protected as well and can not be mapped.

If you have a lot of folders then start one New folder and put the others as sub-folders under it. Map the main Folder as a drive, and when you are accessing it will give access to the Folder and it sub-folders.

 

[dalearyous]

the drive i have shared is a separate partition which only 1 folder in it right now. i understand you can't share the whole c: drive

 

[spidey07]

Have you setup a username/password for the share and allowed it? "Everyone" means "every username defined".

 

[dalearyous]

i don't want it to require username or password

im serious when i say, it is setup like every other machine on the network...its identical and all the other machines work except this one

WAIT A MINUTE, the maximum connections is 10...this may be a shot in the dark, but my main machine and laptop both have the tcp/ip hack to allow more connections for torrents...could that be it?

ALSO, i decided to humor this situation and setup an account with name and password (on media center) with the name being the exact same user name as the one on my main machine. when i tried to open the shared partition it asked me for a username and password. i typed in the correct info and it error ed saying:

\\computer is not accessible. blah blah
Multiple connections to a server or shared resource by the same user, using more than one user name, are not allowed.

i dunno this is so bizarre. maybe ill shut my main machine down and try accessing the computer from different one.

 

[spidey07]

Then you'll want to enable the guest account and assign it permissions. From there you'll have to check ownership and permissions again as already mentioned (share permissions and folder permissions).

The fact that the share is on another partition completely changes everything.

 

[dalearyous]

ok, so i think it is the tcp/ip hack...i tried another vista laptop that DOESN'T have it and it works fine now.

that doesn't make sense though, this machine, which everyone has no trouble accessing has like 4 partitions shared and everyone works to this machine just fine. i have guest account turned off. and the only thing i have in permissions is everyone

 

[spidey07]

*sigh*

Please read Jack's links. You can't approach troubleshooting like you are.

 

[dalearyous]

i have read and re-read the links having to do with vista (all my machines are vista) and honestly nothing in those articles i didn't already know, however, i did go through them and double/triple checked all the settings in hopes of me forgetting something.

uh i have. some of what you are saying is definitely not true. like you definitely don't have to have guest account on and you definitely don't need anything else in the permissions for a partition or whatever except Everyone.

i swear i would give out my logmein info for both machines if i could for you guys to see cause its not a typical normal situation

 

[spidey07]

Oh well, I tried. Enjoy pulling your hair out because you don't understand windows networking.

 

[dalearyous]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Oh well, I tried. Enjoy pulling your hair out because you don't understand windows networking.

When i figure it out ill post the solution and it won't be something in those stupid guides or anything you suggested.

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Edited Out personal insults.

JackMDS.

 

[spidey07]

You're not getting what i'm trying to say. There is a VERY SPECIFIC means of troubleshooting windows networking that you just simply are not following. Swapping thing in and out, changing things, taking a few minutes between changes are not giving you good information to troubleshoot.

I'll try to help:
1) Do you have good name resolution? Can you ping each machine by machine name alone? This assumes your search suffix is the same on all machines
2) Is the stack configured correctly? Are there any other protocol loaded or other network cards and what protocols are loaded on these cards and are there any discrepancies?
3) From the information you provided it seems like you have a share and folder permission problem.

So, once name resolution is confirmed good you can move on up the troubleshooting process. This leaves share and folder permissions. The ability to "see" another computer or access it's resources isn't part of the troubleshooting process. We need to understand WHY the problem is happening. You can't get to the WHY by process of elimination.

 

[dalearyous]

can you clear something up for me real quick, i can't just do the 'simple' file and sharing (like in windows xp) as they called it in one of those links when the partition i am sharing is the c drive where windows is installed correct? does that apply to partitions on the same drive windows is installed on?

reason i am asking is if i share a folder, just a folder, on the drive i am trying to share and add "Everyone" as people to share with...the folder works. however doing that to the partition does not. the partition is on the same drive that windows is installed on. reason i never ran into this was the drives that i am sharing on my main machine are separate hard drives from where windows is installed. that is the ONLY difference in the machines and is the reason i came to this conclusion which is consistent on every machine that i have tried.

 

[Joemonkey]

wow, reminds me of this:

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
You're being difficult. You have not provided us with the information we need to troubleshoot the problem. You have not given us errors, you're vague about where the problem is, you are not answering the questions we ask. In short, you DON'T KNOW HOW TO THINK. Give back that piece of paper you think makes your intelligent, apologize, destroy your computer and go live in the woods kid.

in any event, make sure the usernames and passwords for each computer are not the same