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ohnnyj

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I think there is still room, if you want to play at insane framerate with 4x or even 8xAA and 16xAF with HDR etc. even this brings SLI systems down to their knees, I should know I own one.
 

VirtualLarry

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Wow, if those specs are real, no wonder they delayed that part, had to wait for the mfg technology to catch up with the design specifications and requirements.

Btw, how long before modern video-cards can be used to heat the entire house? (Or at least my hot-water heater... hey, I should patent that before ATI or NV gets to it.) At least future cards will have some real utility (as a utility), while one is busy mortgaging the house to pay for said card.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Btw, how long before modern video-cards can be used to heat the entire house? (Or at least my hot-water heater... hey, I should patent that before ATI or NV gets to it.) At least future cards will have some real utility (as a utility), while one is busy mortgaging the house to pay for said card.

It's funny you should say that. In the dead of winter, I had my window open and a fan blowing. That's how hot just 2 rigs in my room are. Of course, they are both 100% load 24/7.
 

zakee00

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Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: zakee00
ok lets just end this now: the whole point of making faster videocards is to enable game developers to use more advanced effects/more realisitc graphics. an x800 isnt going to cut it for the next few years...therefore they release a new card. welcome to the computer indrustry.

That's ridiculous. The x800 is enough. My 9700 Pro lasted 2 years running even new games today. An x800 should last another 2 years fine.

And let's talk about those more advanced effects. Shaders 3.0 for instance, how many games have been developed for that yet? AoE4? That's it? This card wouldn't add any new tech that developers could take advantage of, so who cares? Sure it's faster, but all that matters is in benchmarks, in any games being developed now it's still too much. With everyone switching to LCD's that have low refresh rates, those high FPS counts don't matter at all. Current gen cards can push the FPS higher than our monitors support.

my god you are just digging your hole deeper!! :roll:!
 
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Originally posted by: zakee00
Originally posted by: malak
Originally posted by: zakee00
ok lets just end this now: the whole point of making faster videocards is to enable game developers to use more advanced effects/more realisitc graphics. an x800 isnt going to cut it for the next few years...therefore they release a new card. welcome to the computer indrustry.

That's ridiculous. The x800 is enough. My 9700 Pro lasted 2 years running even new games today. An x800 should last another 2 years fine.

And let's talk about those more advanced effects. Shaders 3.0 for instance, how many games have been developed for that yet? AoE4? That's it? This card wouldn't add any new tech that developers could take advantage of, so who cares? Sure it's faster, but all that matters is in benchmarks, in any games being developed now it's still too much. With everyone switching to LCD's that have low refresh rates, those high FPS counts don't matter at all. Current gen cards can push the FPS higher than our monitors support.

my god you are just digging your hole deeper!! :roll:!

Heh...I can think of numerous times when my 6800GT @ Ultra speeds could only sustain ~30fps...quite a bit lower than those "low refresh rates" my LCD has. :p :roll:
 

zakee00

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im tired of trying to explain stuff to n00bs, i think ill spend the rest of my life in OT. goodbye world...
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nvm, im back.
 
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Originally posted by: zakee00
im tired of trying to explain stuff to n00bs, i think ill spend the rest of my life in OT. goodbye world...
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nvm, im back.

lol...I don't think you're necessarily qualified to call others n00bs when you've been here for less than two months. :p
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: n7
I'm sure that's true.

In fact, i'm sure it'll be released then.

Paper-released, that is.

Then, after waiting about a yr., we will be able to buy the cards in Q2 2006 for only $999.99...


This just in: ATi's new cards are already out, and not much more than MSRP. Sometimes even less. Making jokes about it is old, and not funny any more. Especially since NV's highend PCI-E cards are more overpriced, and harder to find.
 
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Hmm...if this really is supposed to be out in May (we'll see about that one :roll: ), maybe I should hold on to my current Athlon XP + AGP 6800GT setup, and replace it all with a Rev. E A64 and one of these bad boys in a few months? :Q ;drool;
 

zakee00

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Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: zakee00
im tired of trying to explain stuff to n00bs, i think ill spend the rest of my life in OT. goodbye world...
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nvm, im back.

lol...I don't think you're necessarily qualified to call others n00bs when you've been here for less than two months. :p

meh, i do anyway. just READ some of the crappiles people (coughcoughcough--->MALAK<---coughcoughcough) post here. plus, look at my posts per day...26.76. whats yours? ;)
most have been on CPU/video not OT.

ANYWAY back ON subject, i seriously doubt this rumor. some random guy in a forum just made it up i'm betting.
 

Malak

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Originally posted by: zakee00
meh, i do anyway. just READ some of the crappiles people (coughcoughcough--->MALAK<---coughcoughcough) post here. plus, look at my posts per day...26.76. whats yours? ;)
most have been on CPU/video not OT.

ANYWAY back ON subject, i seriously doubt this rumor. some random guy in a forum just made it up i'm betting.

Well, I actually own an x850XT PE, and I get higher framerates than my refresh rate allows for pretty easily, and I do play it on the latest games. And since I haven't jumped on the LCD bandwagon yet, I have a higher refresh rate than many of them. So I guess I can actually comment on this stuff. How about you?
 

zakee00

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And let's talk about those more advanced effects. Shaders 3.0 for instance, how many games have been developed for that yet?
sorry, SM3 has nothing to do with what i was refering to..try again. BTW, there are a host of games that will be supporting SM3 shortly.
Sure it's faster, but all that matters is in benchmarks, in any games being developed now it's still too much.
ue3, elder scrolls 4, everquest 2, all pwn the x850xt. what about other games in a year?
Well, I actually own an x850XT PE, and I get higher framerates than my refresh rate allows for pretty easily, and I do play it on the latest games.
:cookie: me too! wowz0rz!!
And since I haven't jumped on the LCD bandwagon yet, I have a higher refresh rate than many of them. So I guess I can actually comment on this stuff. How about you?
no comment :p
 

Boze

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If Nvidia's spring core is as good as this, then I buy two the day BFG manufactures an overclocked version, provided availability will be enough so that one can pick up the card for less than $600 each. I would love to have two 512 MB video cards in my rig so I could play newer games at 1680 x 1050 at 16xAA and 16xAF.
 

Sc4freak

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Originally posted by: Boze
If Nvidia's spring core is as good as this, then I buy two the day BFG manufactures an overclocked version, provided availability will be enough so that one can pick up the card for less than $600 each. I would love to have two 512 MB video cards in my rig so I could play newer games at 1680 x 1050 at 16xAA and 16xAF.

heheh... 16xAA I'd love to see that :D
 

Paratus

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Originally posted by: JBT
Originally posted by: Paratus
Hmm to match that speed i'll need to OC my 9600XT to 4200mhz core and 3600mhz on the mem. I'd better get started ;)
You'll probably need a little bit of a vMod for that



Ya that's what I was thinking
 

Avalon

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I wonder which camp will be the one to have a "cheap" high end solution that will be softmoddable this time around. That's all I really care about, is turning a <$200 card into a $400 card.

$150 Radeon 9500 -> 9700.
$200 6800NU -> 128MB 6800GT.

Love it love it love it.
 

zakee00

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Originally posted by: humey
A 6800 has only 2.0ns ram most GTS and all Ultras have 1.6ns ram

yeah, you most likely wont be able to get a 6800NU's memory up to spec with a 6800GT/ultras memory. i think the core usually can do 400Mhz though, don't quote me on that.
 

fstime

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If this is true, it just prooves SLI is JUNK and isn't even future proof. I'm sure the next line of cards will be a better buy than a SLI setup.
 

zakee00

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
If this is true, it just prooves SLI is JUNK and isn't even future proof. I'm sure the next line of cards will be a better buy than a SLI setup.

there would be ALOT of angry people :D
oh well, i have no pity for them..ill be laughing lol
BTW BouZouki, are you greek?
/ontopic
 

sparkyclarky

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That memory speed is what tips me off that that thing is total and complete BS. That'd be a hell of a jump in clock speed for the memory.
 

aznman

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well if they say May 05 u can keep ur pants on till may 06....then u can wait till 07 for it to go down to msrp:D
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
If this is true, it just prooves SLI is JUNK and isn't even future proof. I'm sure the next line of cards will be a better buy than a SLI setup.


Wow, you are dense. SLI was never said to be future proof. It was never said to bring value. It simply provides the best all around performance in any given generation of graphics cards. We've went over this ad nauseum. Get that through your head. SLI is not a value. SLI is simply the best at any given point in time. And odds are good that people with a 6800ultra/gt sli setup right now would buy an SLI setup of the next generation if they had the chance. Some people are not interested in buying a computer based upon value for the dollar. These are folks who will pay large sums of money to get the best in the consumer marketplace, even if it doesn't offer an absolutely massive performance gain. Don't generalize your computing experience to every single person that buys hardware. NV is pushing SLI and clearly sees a market there, and people are buying SLI and enjoying living on the cutting edge of technology.

/rant
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: zakee00
Originally posted by: humey
A 6800 has only 2.0ns ram most GTS and all Ultras have 1.6ns ram

yeah, you most likely wont be able to get a 6800NU's memory up to spec with a 6800GT/ultras memory. i think the core usually can do 400Mhz though, don't quote me on that.


Actually, most GTs have 2 ns RAM, while most ultras should have 1.6 ns RAM. regular 6800s and 6600 GTs have RAM that is slower (in most cases) than the 2 ns on the 6800 GTs. Not that it changes your point. Just simply clarifying in case people get 6800 GTs and thing that they'll be able to overclock to the same speeds that RAM on the ultras overclocks to.