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This is as low as it gets

oldman420

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the fact this man was mortaly wounded should have told The army something.
imagine the feeling he must have had.

February 07, 2006
Soldier pays for armor

Army demanded $700 from city man who was wounded


By Eric Eyre
Staff writer
The last time 1st Lt. William ?Eddie? Rebrook IV saw his body armor, he was lying on a stretcher in Iraq, his arm shattered and covered in blood.

A field medic tied a tourniquet around Rebrook?s right arm to stanch the bleeding from shrapnel wounds. Soldiers yanked off his blood-soaked body armor. He never saw it again.

But last week, Rebrook was forced to pay $700 for that body armor, blown up by a roadside bomb more than a year ago.

He was leaving the Army for good because of his injuries. He turned in his gear at his base in Fort Hood, Texas. He was informed there was no record that the body armor had been stripped from him in battle.

He was told to pay nearly $700 or face not being discharged for weeks, perhaps months.

Rebrook, 25, scrounged up the cash from his Army buddies and returned home to Charleston last Friday.

?I last saw the [body armor] when it was pulled off my bleeding body while I was being evacuated in a helicopter,? Rebrook said. ?They took it off me and burned it.?

But no one documented that he lost his Kevlar body armor during battle, he said. No one wrote down that armor had apparently been incinerated as a biohazard.

Rebrook?s mother, Beckie Drumheler, said she was saddened ? and angry ? when she learned that the Army discharged her son with a $700 bill. Soldiers who serve their country, those who put their lives on the line, deserve better, she said.

?It?s outrageous, ridiculous and unconscionable,? Drumheler said. ?I wanted to stand on a street corner and yell through a megaphone about this.?

Rebrook was standing in the turret of a Bradley Fighting Vehicle when the roadside bomb exploded Jan. 11, 2005. The explosion fractured his arm and severed an artery. A Black Hawk helicopter airlifted him to a combat support hospital in Baghdad.

He was later flown to a hospital in Germany for surgery, then on to Walter Reed Army Medical Hospital in Washington, D.C., for more surgeries. Doctors operated on his arm seven times in all.

But Rebrook?s right arm never recovered completely. He still has range of motion problems. He still has pain when he turns over to sleep at night.

Even with the injury, Rebrook said he didn?t want to leave the Army. He said the ?medical separation? discharge was the Army?s decision, not his.

So after eight months at Fort Hood, he gathered up his gear and started the ?long process? to leave the Army for good.

Things went smoothly until officers asked him for his ?OTV,? his ?outer tactical vest,? or body armor, which was missing. A battalion supply officer had failed to document the loss of the vest in Iraq.

?They said that I owed them $700,? Rebrook said. ?It was like ?thank you for your service, now here?s the bill for $700.? I had to pay for it if I wanted to get on with my life.?

In the past, the Army allowed to soldiers to write memos, explaining the loss and destruction of gear, Rebrook said.

But a new policy required a ?report of survey? from the field that documented the loss.

Rebrook said he knows other soldiers who also have been forced to pay for equipment destroyed in battle.

?It?s a combat loss,? he said. ?It shouldn?t be a cost passed on to the soldier. If a soldier?s stuff is hit by enemy fire, he shouldn?t have to pay for it.?

Rebrook said he tried to get a battalion commander to sign a waiver on the battle armor, but the officer declined. Rebrook was told he?d have to supply statements from witnesses to verify the body armor was taken from him and burned.

?There?s a complete lack of empathy from senior officers who don?t know what it?s like to be a combat soldier on the ground,? Rebrook said. ?There?s a whole lot of people who don?t want to help you. They?re more concerned with process than product.?

Rebrook, who graduated with honors from the U.S. Military Academy in West Point, N.Y., spent more than four years on active duty. He served six months in Iraq.

Now, Rebrook is sending out résumés, trying to find a job. He plans to return to college to take a couple of pre-med classes and apply to medical school. He wants to be a doctor someday.

?From being an infantryman, I know what it?s like to hurt people,? Rebrook said. ?But now I?d like to help people.?

To contact staff writer Eric Eyre, use e-mail or call 348-4869.

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Polish3d

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WOWOW :thumbsdown:


Seriously the army ought to look at how it treats its people when wondering why recruiting is down... its not just the war IMO, I was thinking of joining the reserves or guard (still am) but seeing stories like this and many others (vets benefits being cut etc) just totally dissuade ... There is no way any of these people deserve to be treated like such ******
 

oldman420

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don't worry bush's new budget will make college unaffordable for a large cross section of the population, those GI loans start looking like the only way to get ahead.
 

her209

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Wow... hopefully the Army will straighten this out and reimburse him.
 
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Originally posted by: oldman420
don't worry bush's new budget will make college unaffordable for a large cross section of the population, those GI loans start looking like the only way to get ahead.

Wow only took three posts to somehow bash Bush. Very nice. Why don't we stay on topic, this is a very tragic incident and I hope his state senator or someone looks into this and helps get him reimbursed for all expenses. There should be no reason this man should have to pay because he served his country honorably.
 

Moonbeam

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It's the Army, not welfare. If everything is free and easy personal responsibility goes out the window. People just won't value what they don't pay for. You liberals will never learn.
 
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It's the Army, not welfare. If everything is free and easy personal responsibility goes out the window. People just won't value what they don't pay for. You liberals will never learn.


Thats a little harsh dont you think? The man was injured and according to him the medics took his bloodied body armor and he never saw it again. Why should he have to pay for it then? He has already payed more then enough by serving his country in Iraq for how ever long his tour was.
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: jzimo
Wow only took three posts to somehow bash Bush. Very nice. Why don't we stay on topic, this is a very tragic incident and I hope his state senator or someone looks into this and helps get him reimbursed for all expenses. There should be no reason this man should have to pay because he served his country honorably.

Bwahahahahahhahahaha, if this situation wasn't so dispicable I would buy you a beer for the joke.
 
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Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: jzimo
Wow only took three posts to somehow bash Bush. Very nice. Why don't we stay on topic, this is a very tragic incident and I hope his state senator or someone looks into this and helps get him reimbursed for all expenses. There should be no reason this man should have to pay because he served his country honorably.

Bwahahahahahhahahaha, if this situation wasn't so dispicable I would buy you a beer for the joke.

Lol you're probably right. Why would a senator even get invovled with this? I'm not sure what I was thinking. I'll rephrase, lets hope somehow he get his money back.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: jzimo
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It's the Army, not welfare. If everything is free and easy personal responsibility goes out the window. People just won't value what they don't pay for. You liberals will never learn.


Thats a little harsh dont you think? The man was injured and according to him the medics took his bloodied body armor and he never saw it again. Why should he have to pay for it then? He has already payed more then enough by serving his country in Iraq for how ever long his tour was.

Every welfare queen blames somebody besides themselves, no? Do the medics corroborate his story. What do they say happened to his armor?
 

oldman420

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: jzimo
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It's the Army, not welfare. If everything is free and easy personal responsibility goes out the window. People just won't value what they don't pay for. You liberals will never learn.


Thats a little harsh dont you think? The man was injured and according to him the medics took his bloodied body armor and he never saw it again. Why should he have to pay for it then? He has already payed more then enough by serving his country in Iraq for how ever long his tour was.

Every welfare queen blames somebody besides themselves, no? Do the medics corroborate his story. What do they say happened to his armor?


he lost it in a battle I cant believe someone would expect him to corroborate his story.
and I bet that this queen you refer to was a valued soldier in his unit.
to worry about the loss of the armor that saved this soldiers life is cheap and shallow.
you are obviously out of touch here
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: oldman420
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: jzimo
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It's the Army, not welfare. If everything is free and easy personal responsibility goes out the window. People just won't value what they don't pay for. You liberals will never learn.


Thats a little harsh dont you think? The man was injured and according to him the medics took his bloodied body armor and he never saw it again. Why should he have to pay for it then? He has already payed more then enough by serving his country in Iraq for how ever long his tour was.

Every welfare queen blames somebody besides themselves, no? Do the medics corroborate his story. What do they say happened to his armor?


he lost it in a battle I cant believe someone would expect him to corroborate his story.
and I bet that this queen you refer to was a valued soldier in his unit.
to worry about the loss of the armor that saved this soldiers life is cheap and shallow.
you are obviously out of touch here

Tap the sarcasm meter Oldman, I think it's stuck.
 

Lanyap

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This is not the first time this has happened. There was a similar post several months ago. Same type of deal. The soldier should not have been charged. Some paper pusher in admin screwed up. They will fix it.

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: jzimo
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It's the Army, not welfare. If everything is free and easy personal responsibility goes out the window. People just won't value what they don't pay for. You liberals will never learn.


Thats a little harsh dont you think? The man was injured and according to him the medics took his bloodied body armor and he never saw it again. Why should he have to pay for it then? He has already payed more then enough by serving his country in Iraq for how ever long his tour was.

Every welfare queen blames somebody besides themselves, no? Do the medics corroborate his story. What do they say happened to his armor?

hehe, so mean to the Noobs. :D

What's next:

soldier: Weaps dry!
Officer: Hand me your CC and I'll grab you a clip..<hands CC...swipe> Oh, I'm sorry the request has been rejected....got any Cash?
soldier: WTF? Under FIRE!!!!
Officer: <shrugs..handing CC back> Sorry
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It's the Army, not welfare. If everything is free and easy personal responsibility goes out the window. People just won't value what they don't pay for. You liberals will never learn.

You are one to berate liberals? :roll:
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It's the Army, not welfare. If everything is free and easy personal responsibility goes out the window. People just won't value what they don't pay for. You liberals will never learn.

You are one to berate liberals? :roll:

I'm just curious about entitlement. If entitlement is no good for the welfare queen how come it's no good in general? What criterion are people using or do we really only see hypocrisy. Do we entitle our gods and spurn our devils? Who decides what's good and evil? Do you know the answers?
 

runzwithsizorz

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Originally posted by: Lanyap
Some paper pusher in admin screwed up. They will fix it.
Trust me on this, it's just how the Army does stuff;(stupid I know). So stop frothing at the mouth, get your panties unbunched, and move along, nothin to see here folks.

 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It's the Army, not welfare. If everything is free and easy personal responsibility goes out the window. People just won't value what they don't pay for. You liberals will never learn.

You are one to berate liberals? :roll:

*taps meter*
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I'm amazed the U.S. military gets any new recruits the way we fvck over our own troops.

You know, you lose your armor...you should have to pay for it...and not only that, you should go to jail. And not just any jail, but the worst jail.