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Greenman

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You can afford Trump's $1T+ deficits and massive tariff taxes on consumer goods?

Trump Tariffs Will Soon Cost U.S. Families Thousands of Dollars A Year


It ends up being a binary choice.

At least we get something from Warren's policies.
China gets away with anything they feel like doing because the US buys every piece of contaminated plastic crap they produce. I don't have an issue with turning off the money supply, or the contaminated plastic crap supply.
 

1prophet

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China gets away with anything they feel like doing because the US buys every piece of contaminated plastic crap they produce. I don't have an issue with turning off the money supply, or the contaminated plastic crap supply.
Not just the US, a handful of Palestinians get hurt or killed in Israel during some police or retaliatory action from a terrorist attack and the whole Islamic world demand some sort of action from the UN, and their antisemitic liberal apologists in congress demand boycotts of Israel.


But when it comes to China locking up/reeducating one million Muslims the same Islamic nations are strangely mum, wonder if our boycott Israel Muslims in congress will take charge and start a boycott China movement.


Internment camps have been set up with up to a million prisoners being indoctrinated and ‘re-educated’, leading to empty neighbourhoods, with major mosques in the major cities of Kashgar and Urumqi standing deserted. Prisoners in the camps are also being compelled to renounce God and embrace the Chinese Communist Party doctrines and prayers, religious education, and the fasting in the month of Ramadan being increasingly restricted or banned.[1] Those who disobey are reportedly subject to torture such as solitary confinement, deprivation of food, water and sleep, and even waterboarding. The reason that so many are being held is because most are arrested for no discernible reason, other than to curb religious practice and erase Uyghur culture.[2]
 

zinfamous

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China gets away with anything they feel like doing because the US buys every piece of contaminated plastic crap they produce. I don't have an issue with turning off the money supply, or the contaminated plastic crap supply.

just stop buying contaminated plastic crap, then, and stop using those shitty grocery bags. No reason to agree to pay more in taxes because a confused Orange Idiot has no fucking clue what he is doing.
 
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Bitek

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China gets away with anything they feel like doing because the US buys every piece of contaminated plastic crap they produce. I don't have an issue with turning off the money supply, or the contaminated plastic crap supply.

To clarify, you can afford paying thousands in higher taxes on products now due to tariffs (bc sticking it to China), and future higher taxes and/or receive less in future SS/Medicare entitlements (due to crippling debt)

... But you can't afford Warren's ideas.

Can't or don't want to?
 

ch33zw1z

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China gets away with anything they feel like doing because the US buys every piece of contaminated plastic crap they produce. I don't have an issue with turning off the money supply, or the contaminated plastic crap supply.

good luck with that. China is making a whole lot more than contaminated plastic crap. Offshoring started in the 70's, and has only increased.
 

Greenman

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Indeed, and no amount of burning it down or oppressing our fellow countrymen, or denying truth will make it stop
An odd observation. There are innumerable things that won't address the issue. The very few things we can do that will actually help solve the problem are the very things we won't do to solve the problem. Our conviction is a dollar deep, our desire to pretend that we're environmentally conscious is supported by exporting our pollution. Our belief in supporting human rights and having a just society stops at the door to Walmart.
Our convictions are ridged when discussed, and very flexible when their is a price attached, unless someone else has to pay that price, then we break out the righteous indignation.
 

ch33zw1z

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An odd observation. There are innumerable things that won't address the issue. The very few things we can do that will actually help solve the problem are the very things we won't do to solve the problem. Our conviction is a dollar deep, our desire to pretend that we're environmentally conscious is supported by exporting our pollution. Our belief in supporting human rights and having a just society stops at the door to Walmart.
Our convictions are ridged when discussed, and very flexible when their is a price attached, unless someone else has to pay that price, then we break out the righteous indignation.

My observation is based on what I see in our society today. It's not odd, if you are an independent minded person.

We're too far down the rabbit hole for most Americans to come up for air. We can, however, choose to consume less junk, and encourage others to do the same
 

theeedude

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Average cost of family health insurance plan in the US is now $20,000. It's a failed system. That's a tax that is already being paid by employers and employees, just going to insurance companies which have utterly failed to negotiate down prices and control costs, because they make a percentage of those costs and don't want to. We need Medicare for all and allowed to negotiate down prices and bring costs down.
 

Muse

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My observation is based on what I see in our society today. It's not odd, if you are an independent minded person.

We're too far down the rabbit hole for most Americans to come up for air. We can, however, choose to consume less junk, and encourage others to do the same
I at least give it thought! I am still waging my personal war against built in obsolescence. Plus, whenever I can, I fix something that isn't working instead of buying a replacement. It's a habit/hobby that can be pretty thrilling!
 
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