This has been the worst election I've witnessed, how about you? Poll

[Jhhnn]

On the surface it was. All the back stabbing was behind closed doors. Bernie was a pin cushion.

Oh and let me add. It has been the biggest train wreck I have ever seen. On both sides.

I never noticed you being for anything Bernie is for, but your concern trolling is duly noted.

 

[Muse]

i hope to hell the next one is more dignified.

QFT, no brainer. And hope too things get better, way better, way before the next one!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Muse]

Nope, the best election. I feel truly blessed to have witnessed this.

Dude, you are hamburger meat.

 

[Kazukian]

Best quote so far from 60 minutes, "It's like being the child of divorce and you're mad at both of your parents."

 

[trenchfoot]

In the courts current state that could be a tie. You should have voted yes.

In the context of which you reply, I agree.

However, the view I attempted to express was a comparison between an highly controversial election that was decided by the Supreme Court vs. an election in the here and now that probably won't be decided that way.

To further clarify my position, allow me to expound a bit (of which I should have done in the post you quoted). The election where the Supreme Court was directly involved was preceded by deeds that were highly suspect and was infused with a plethora of critical questions left wholly unanswered, among them, of all things, how hanging chads was a major point of contention and where Bush would not have been the winner if the Supreme Court had not stopped a recount (and the rules it was administered under) going on at the time.

In this regard it's my opinion that that election is worse than the one we're about to decide on.

And thanks for allowing me the opportunity to clarify my position on this topic.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Worst election both in terms of the quality of the candidates and the negativity of the campaigns. All the more obvious given that the most negative attack ads from both Democrats and Republicans come from BS Super PACs. Follow the monied interests.

 

[Zaap]

Definitely, by FAR the worst candidates ever. An embarrassingly bad choice.

Trump is clearly the worst candidate ever- IMO it started as not much more than a goof- by now his ego may have kicked in and he may actually want to win because he sees a chance, and thinks it might be fun to play Prez same as he's played at being a business man, reality TV show host, candidate, etc. But basically, his whole run was one big "I punk'd the whole country!"

On the other hand, the fact that the absolute trainwreck that is Trump could even come THIS CLOSE to challenging Hillary just shows what an absolute trainwreck of a candidate she is herself.

Outside of the partisan left and those with their heads so far up the ass of the Dem party they'd blindly support *anything* D- no one with any real integrity is excited about a Hillary presidency. Most everyone knows she's a corrupt self-promoter first and foremost.

Virtually ANYONE on the Rep side that merely stood up and sounded halfway competent (even with a closet full of skeletons as full as hers, let alone squeaky clean) could have MOPPED the freakin' floor with Hillary. The Reps didn't even want to win this time, because it could have been easy.

Hillary wins by default- the nation loses by default.

Whatever. It'll be good when it's all over at any rate. I don't know what those suffering from massive Trump obsessions will do with themselves, if the sunshine will ever come back into their world, but who knows. There's hope.

 

[Triloby]

As of right now, this election is by far and away one of the worst elections I've ever seen. What makes it even worse is that Trump should've been an easy candidate for the Democrats to defeat, and yet Hillary is either almost tied with, or just barely edging him out in the polls. Even if she wins, it will most definitely NOT be by a landslide.

What baffles me the most is the Republican primaries. There were about 17 or so of those schmucks running for president, and Donald Trump managed to win out over all of them. Mind you, I would've never considered for voting any one of those 17, but it amazes me how the GOP decided to put no effort into this election and how they managed to act so surprised that Trump became the GOP front-runner, despite the kind of mentality and rhetoric they've been fostering out of their base for the past 8 years.

The saddest thing is that future elections could end up being worse than this one. You thought 2008 or 2016 was bad? God knows what will happen in 2020 or beyond.

 

[glenn1]

The saddest thing is that future elections could end up being worse than this one. You thought 2008 or 2016 was bad? God knows what will happen in 2020 or beyond.

Well whichever of these assclowns wins, they'll be running again in 2020 absent some act of divine mercy to us all. So we know that at least 50% of the 2020 election is almost certain to be just as terrible.

At this point the only fun in this election is waiting for the inevitable onset of reality from the elation of "thank goodness ____ lost" to the utter dejection of the 'winners' that their candidate is the most hated POTUS of all time, will have no mandate or political capital to speak of, and will have voters counting down the days until they can be rid of him/her. Anyone who thinks the president-elect will achieve any policy victories of note are smoking something that's still illegal in the majority of states. The fights between Obama and GOP congress are going to look quaint in comparison to how they treat the newcomer.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Yes and by a VERY wide margin. Originally is was caribou barbie and McCain, but this one, holy shitballs. Fuckface Von Clownstick vs Hillary, a presidential candidate who is openly racist, belligerent, a bully, a coward, uses social media to exact his verbal vengeance... just fucking horrible. And my brother who is 15 years my senior also thinks it's the worst. The only one I can think of that may have gone as low as this was Adams v Jefferson, some serious mudslinging in that one.

You made me laugh so hard I farted.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

As of right now, this election is by far and away one of the worst elections I've ever seen. What makes it even worse is that Trump should've been an easy candidate for the Democrats to defeat, and yet Hillary is either almost tied with, or just barely edging him out in the polls. Even if she wins, it will most definitely NOT be by a landslide.

What baffles me the most is the Republican primaries. There were about 17 or so of those schmucks running for president, and Donald Trump managed to win out over all of them. Mind you, I would've never considered for voting any one of those 17, but it amazes me how the GOP decided to put no effort into this election and how they managed to act so surprised that Trump became the GOP front-runner, despite the kind of mentality and rhetoric they've been fostering out of their base for the past 8 years.

The saddest thing is that future elections could end up being worse than this one. You thought 2008 or 2016 was bad? God knows what will happen in 2020 or beyond.

The GOP put a lot of effort into preventing Trump from winning. They failed, but that's how life goes sometimes. They should consider some super-delegates for 2020.

On the other hand, you have Dems that wanted Donald "LITERALLY HITLER" Trump to win just to make things easier for them, and they expect people to keep falling for the lesser of two evils argument. lol @ them.

 

[pcgeek11]

I never noticed you being for anything Bernie is for, but your concern trolling is duly noted.

I don't care what you did or did not notice. Not a socialist, but Bernie was screwed by the DNC from the start.

 

[disappoint]

At least in my lifetime this has been the worse. Discovery channel was showing "The Presidents" series marathon which went from Washington to Nixon. Some of those elections pre civil war were extremely uncivil. And some of those presidents were actually unsavory characters or were actually quite indifferent to running the country in general.

We will survive whatever happens.

Like Martin Van Ruin for example?

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't care what you did or did not notice. Not a socialist, but Bernie was screwed by the DNC from the start.

I'm sure you'd be trolling Bernie just as hard had Dems chosen him, just in a different way.

In either event, you're just here to tear down the Democrats any way you can.

Check the thread title. Tell us where you fit in.

 

[nickqt]

I'm sure you'd be trolling Bernie just as hard had Dems chosen him, just in a different way.

In either event, you're just here to tear down the Democrats any way you can.

Check the thread title. Tell us where you fit in.

This just in:

Democratic party members help out the Democratic party politician running in the Democratic party primary to the detriment of the non-Democratic party politician.

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Alert the press!

 

[Triloby]

I don't care what you did or did not notice. Not a socialist, but Bernie was screwed by the DNC from the start.

Technically, Bernie was never a Democrat to begin with. He's always been an Independent, and only decided to temporarily become a Democrat for this election. In that regard, it kinda makes sense why the DNC was rather hostile to Bernie, because he was a literal outsider to their party; much like how Donald Trump was a literal outsider to the Republicans.

 

[Vic]

Bernie would have been freaking slaughtered. It wouldn't even have been funny. Think McGovern and Al Smith. That's what would have happened to Bernie.

 

[glenn1]

Bernie would have been freaking slaughtered. It wouldn't even have been funny. Think McGovern and Al Smith. That's what would have happened to Bernie.

News to folks like Jhhnn, he and other progressives think that Americans have an insatiable desire for progressive/socialist policy solutions and the politicians who would implement them.

 

[flexy]

Yeah, let's just ignore that Bernie, as a total newcomer who no-one imagined having any chance actually did SPLENDIDLY (with millions of enthusiastic followers despite the guy old and gray) and likely would have won the nomination under slight different circumstances.

And let's just ignore they voted a rather "progressive, and hold yourself, BLACK MAN, into office, TWICE as their POTUS for eight years.

Do you live under a rock?

 

[nickqt]

News to folks like Jhhnn, he and other progressives think that Americans have an insatiable desire for progressive/socialist policy solutions and the politicians who would implement them.

On individual issues they do.

Wake up.

 

[Sonikku]

Best election ever.

 

[glenn1]

On individual issues they do.

Wake up.

Sure, just like they sometimes support ultra-conservative positions on individual issues at times. All you need to do is remove all the tradeoff considerations, like how much extra in taxes you'd need to pay for those progressive programs or the reality of following through conservative ideas to their logical conclusion and letting karma take over while we stand back and watch people fail and suffer.

 

[Vic]

Yeah, let's just ignore that Bernie, as a total newcomer who no-one imagined having any chance actually did SPLENDIDLY (with millions of enthusiastic followers despite the guy old and gray) and likely would have won the nomination under slight different circumstances.

And let's just ignore they voted a rather "progressive, and hold yourself, BLACK MAN, into office, TWICE as their POTUS for eight years.

Do you live under a rock?

The black man isn't actually a socialist.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I can think of at least one partisan Dem on this forum that didn't want Obama to win the nomination because he was too progressive/far-left and had a poor chance of winning. To the credit of that Dem, he was fully on board once he was proven wrong. Sanders wouldn't win like a landslide like some of believers think, but I don't see a reason why he couldn't win against Trump. The "It's me or a racist misogynistic crazydude" factor would still be in play to keep moderate Dems in the game, he would have much stronger support from people currently voting Johnson and Stein, and handouts/pandering is always popular.

 

[Vic]

I can think of at least one partisan Dem on this forum that didn't want Obama to win the nomination because he was too progressive/far-left and had a poor chance of winning. To the credit of that Dem, he was fully on board once he was proven wrong. Sanders wouldn't win like a landslide like some of believers think, but I don't see a reason why he couldn't win against Trump. The "It's me or a racist misogynistic crazydude" factor would still be in play to keep moderate Dems in the game, he would have much stronger support from people currently voting Johnson and Stein, and handouts/pandering is always popular.

The GOP establishment can stomach a Clinton administration if it stops Trump. Against Bernie, they would have gone all in.