This has all kinds of possibilities of not ending well! -- AOC defends Omar!!

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JEDIYoda

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I imagine it makes sense as a highlighter on a dark theme. Otherwise, yes, it is quite difficult to read without modifying it first.

Try this color on a dark theme. Bet it is just as bad.
Yes I have a dark background!! I thought the light background was so light that everybody would have switched to the dark back ground my bad!! sorry!!
 

JEDIYoda

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She's not a terrorist. She just helps them and is supported by terrorist groups.
Do you have links that she helps terrorists and is supported by them?
Oh...I fogot you also bought into the republican smear campaign!!
 

trenchfoot

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Not sure Omar's comment sounds any better "in context". I think it was inappropriate and poorly stated at best, and see nothing in the full comment to change that.
However, this is one of the times that I think AOC was making a reasonable comment and not off the deep end. The hate mongering from Trump, some Republicans, and Fox News has to stop. Maybe all (or a lot) of republicans dont approve of it, but they need to grow the balls needed to stand up and speak against it.

The GOP has been very busy lighting fires under their constituents by agitating and propagandizing them for nigh on decades.

Trump came along (and as some cable news commentator mentioned) fire hosed that agitation with gasoline in the form of racist innuendo, fear and hate speech and inflammatory lie after lie after lie at every one of his rallies and every chance he gets when being interviewed on nationwide media.

He's been going out of his way toward promoting violence, hate, racism and supremacist agendas against those that he feels would vote against him, that being minorities in particular in order to garner more support for himself.

He has purposely set an agenda toward carving out a certain segment of the population as the enemy of the (his) people and has then gathered around himself (for lack of a more objective description) a mob of agitated angry followers deaf to any other voice but his own and set them against these enemies of his.

As for Omar's commentary, I think a more politically wisened choice of words would have sufficed and of which I'm sure she will learn from. It overshadowed the gist of her message which of course was in no way meant to demean or diminish what happened on that horrific day.

But leave it to FOX and the GOP spin machine to parse and edify out of context drama from their enemies commentary. They're really reliable in this regard.
 
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emperus

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Everyone here should see a pattern. This has been the same with Clinton, Pelosi, AOC and Omar. Fox and the right hammer them consistently for the inane. Faux outrage at it's finest!
 

SlowSpyder

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The only reason we are discussing the faults of the left in a thread about the Republican party actively inciting death threats against sitting members of Congress is because your hypocrisy will not allow any criticism of the right. Which is the difference that I'm speaking about.
I don't give a shit about your idiot political tribalism. I do give a shit that your idiot political tribalism turns you into a pathetic bleating sheep, drowning out any critical discussion of your tribe with bahs of 'whatabout' and 'but the left.'
By doing that, you are not condemning anything, you're endorsing them. If you have to say 'but the left' in a thread about the right inciting death threats, that mean you're apologizing for, and approving of, these death threats.
And another thing, I am not 'the left,' and you are not 'the right.' If I criticize you for being a hypocritical piece of shit, that means that I am criticizing YOU, not the right. Just another part of how unhinged YOU are.


I said calling her a terrorist is going too far, she is not a terrorist even though I strongly disagree with her. Threatening to shoot her is certainly too far and I FULLY CONDEMN SUCH BEHAVIOR. I'm trying to say this for you one more time so you can see here is someone on the right doing exactly what you say hasn't happened while you accuse *me* of political tribalism that blinds. Pretty ironic really.

We wouldn't want another Steve Scalise situation... remember that? Where a violent leftist actually shot a member of congress?
 

HomerJS

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I said calling her a terrorist is going too far, she is not a terrorist even though I strongly disagree with her. Threatening to shoot her is certainly too far and I FULLY CONDEMN SUCH BEHAVIOR. I'm trying to say this for you one more time so you can see here is someone on the right doing exactly what you say hasn't happened while you accuse *me* of political tribalism that blinds. Pretty ironic really.

We wouldn't want another Steve Scalise situation... remember that? Where a violent leftist actually shot a member of congress?
You said it "was a bit too far" That was like pulling teeth rather then an outright condemnation.

That's exactly what we are talking about. You want to keep a toe in the terrorist water and use it at an opportune time.
 

SlowSpyder

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You said it "was a bit too far" That was like pulling teeth rather then an outright condemnation.

That's exactly what we are talking about. You want to keep a toe in the terrorist water and use it at an opportune time.


Is it really a big deal or is it "just some people saying something?"

And yes, I'd say a bit too far. It is words, not action. Not the end of the world.
 

HomerJS

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Is it really a big deal or is it "just some people saying something?"

And yes, I'd say a bit too far. It is words, not action. Not the end of the world.
Words? You mean like Omar's words you people are laundering into a made up scandal?

Just go check yourself
 

Thump553

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One of the unhinged things about the far right (especially the religious right) and now the GOP is that unless you pledge allegiance to the state of Israel you are both antisemitic and unpatriotic as well.

The USA spends billions of tax dollars every year propping up an increasingly ungrateful Israel. But it seems like we can't have an honest and open debate on Israel any more than we can about sensible gun regulations.
 

FelixDeCat

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Words? You mean like Omar's words you people are laundering into a made up scandal?

Just go check yourself

Im willing to bet this isnt the end. So $1 says we hear at least one more "zinger" from her that has Congress up in arms again before year end. Shes the real deal, and I dont mean the new green one. ;)
 

Vic

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I said calling her a terrorist is going too far, she is not a terrorist even though I strongly disagree with her. Threatening to shoot her is certainly too far and I FULLY CONDEMN SUCH BEHAVIOR. I'm trying to say this for you one more time so you can see here is someone on the right doing exactly what you say hasn't happened while you accuse *me* of political tribalism that blinds. Pretty ironic really.

We wouldn't want another Steve Scalise situation... remember that? Where a violent leftist actually shot a member of congress?

Still not getting it. If you were actually condemning it, you wouldn't keep deflecting with whataboutism. Because if some rightie does shoot a sitting Congressperson, you'll only condemn long enough to whatabout back to Scalise. Which is hardly a genuine condemnation.
You need to get a clue, buddy. If all leftists can be represented by (using your example) the idiot who shot Scalise, then all righties can be represented by the guy who shot up Christchurch, or the Temple Synagogue murderer, or Dylan Roof, and so on. I'm saying this because this is what *YOU* constantly accuse people of here, of being responsible for acts they condemn. And it's not irony that you're blind to it, it's a feature of your partisan hypocrisy.
 

Vic

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Im willing to bet this isnt the end. So $1 says we hear at least one more "zinger" from her that has Congress up in arms again before year end. Shes the real deal, and I dont mean the new green one. ;)
It's a really safe bet that the Republican propaganda machine will continue to incite hate and threats of violence against this particular member of Congress because of their bigotry against her religious faith.
 

HomerJS

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Im willing to bet this isnt the end. So $1 says we hear at least one more "zinger" from her that has Congress up in arms again before year end. Shes the real deal, and I dont mean the new green one. ;)
I'm sure right wingers will dig up another Michelle Obama "whitey" speech
 

trenchfoot

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It's a really safe bet that the Republican propaganda machine will continue to incite hate and threats of violence against this particular member of Congress because of their bigotry against her religious faith.

Well when they can't point to themselves and say in all honesty what a great job they've done cutting taxes for the middle class, providing a great affordable replacement health care program for all Americans, increasing the health of the economy above the trend line that Obama set and handed to Trump, creating a well planned and organized infrastructure rebuilding program that creates jobs and stimulates the economy as well as or better than Obama had done in the recovery process, raising the minimum wage across the board commensurate with the increases in the cost of living, uniting the nation against our foreign adversaries and on and on and on, what's a party to do?

So far, their reflexes have compelled them to deflect and divert from the miserable job they've been doing for the nation, vociferously attacking those contrived boogeymen they seem to have an aching need for, packing the courts with wholly unqualified conservative activist judges like Kavanaugh, doing a really bang up job of making the rich much more richer while ardently supporting their president who is at the moment having a mental meltdown manifesting itself in his making even more outrageous lies and accusations against (his) "enemies of the people - believe me".
 

SlowSpyder

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Words? You mean like Omar's words you people are laundering into a made up scandal?

Just go check yourself


Yes, her words are going too far, but what she said is on a different level than actually taking action, like flying a plane into a building to kill thousands. So the reaction to her words has been appropriate, with widespread condemnation by all but the most blinded by partisanship drones (people like you). You are kind of getting it, I guess.
 

Vic

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Yes, her words are going too far, but what she said is on a different level than actually taking action, like flying a plane into a building to kill thousands. So the reaction to her words has been appropriate, with widespread condemnation by all but the most blinded by partisanship drones (people like you). You are kind of getting it, I guess.
You're only upset by her comments because you really do believe that all Muslims are responsible for 9/11. It's only 'the real racists' who disagree with holding more than a billion people to blame for the actions of 19, right?
 

Moonbeam

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The simplest explanation I can give you for why you face what is for inexplicable and incomprehensible opposition to what you clearly believe is true is due to the dissonance created between one positive and one negative trait you possess.

1. You were raised in a way that caused you to value conformity to strict moral standards, to value being a highly moral person on a wide range of moral themes, all of which have high evolutionary value and all of which embody an objective good. The result is that you are a moral crusader and a champion of the moral good.

2. The nature of what those moral values are and how you express them was passed down to you are actually not correct.

The result is that all the positive value of being a moral person and all of the conviction of doing the right thing that goes with it is being applied in a way that is actually negative and because you can't tease our the difference, owing to the depth of your faith, the result is called bigotry, a name for moral blindness. You know the saying. "you can tell a bigot, but you can't tell him much."

What makes this sad lies in two directions. Bigots cause those who lack real moral faith to doubt the existence of the good. Additionally, it means that for you personally you live in a state of struggle and fear. You constantly feel the attack on your incorrectly understood values are an attack on the 'real good' which means that you constantly represent your inner state as one that is at war with evil.

The real good is real and good and needs no defending. You would know this if your faith were also real. To have real faith is to have real love. Don't worry. Everything your soul yearns for it true and real up to the highest.
 
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Im willing to bet this isnt the end. So $1 says we hear at least one more "zinger" from her that has Congress up in arms again before year end. Shes the real deal, and I dont mean the new green one. ;)

And you will be here to continue to spread lies and hate like a good little minion.
 

JEDIYoda

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Im willing to bet this isnt the end. So $1 says we hear at least one more "zinger" from her that has Congress up in arms again before year end. Shes the real deal, and I dont mean the new green one. ;)
As usual people like you secretly would delight if somebody took her out of the picture!
You stated -- Shes the real deal -- that's code word for terrorist? huh?
There are a lot of people like you who crawl out from under their rock when they have an opportunity to throw around hatred because they feel that's what TRUMP wants them to do!!
 

FelixDeCat

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As usual people like you secretly would delight if somebody took her out of the picture!
You stated -- Shes the real deal -- that's code word for terrorist? huh?
There are a lot of people like you who crawl out from under their rock when they have an opportunity to throw around hatred because they feel that's what TRUMP wants them to do!!

Way to overreact Yoda. Codeword? Why is everything a codeword with liberals?