This has all kinds of possibilities of not ending well! -- AOC defends Omar!!

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Do these people not realize that somebody could become so bold as to try to kill Omar just because she is Muslim???
Have the Republican party sunk so low as to actually believe that a Representative of the House is a "terrorist"?
You know this is dangerous stuff! The sad part would be if she was harmed in some way -- Trump would not even be accussed of instigating this or enabling one of his mentally incapacitated sheeple of feeling they can harm her with no repercussions!!
Are there any good Republicans out there, who will take a stand and say enough of this BS??
I am beginning to believe that as a country we are in far worse shape than we believe!!
The sad part is that somebody will eventually get hurt and all the while Trump won`t give a damn!
lastly I am Jewish and Ilve in the USA and still believe we need to treat everyone with kindness and compassion!!
How low do we have to go before its too late to take our country back??


https://www.yahoo.com/news/ocasio-cortez-defends-omar-amid-911-controversy-182305337.html
Ocasio-Cortez was responding to a jarring New York Post cover featuring the World Trade Center towers in flames on the day of the attacks.


The Omar controversy stems from comments she made last month at a Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) fundraiser. Omar said the organization “was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something, and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties.” (CAIR was actually founded in 1994. According to the Washington Post, Omar’s spokesman said she misspoke and “meant to refer to the fact that the organization had doubled in size after the Sept. 11 attacks.”)


The “some people did something” line has been highlighted by Fox News host Brian Kilmeade and Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel to criticize the Muslim American congresswoman as un-American. Kilmeade later walked his comment back.
Another freshman lawmaker, Rep. Dan Crenshaw, R-Texas, tweeted that Omar was the first member of Congress "to ever describe terrorists who killed thousands of Americans on 9/11 as ‘some people who did something,’” adding, “Unbelievable.”
Ocasio-Cortez fired back on Thursday.
“You refuse to cosponsor the 9/11 Victim’s Compensation Fund, yet have the audacity to drum resentment towards Ilhan w/completely out-of-context quote,” she tweeted. “In 2018, right-wing extremists were behind almost ALL US domestic terrorist killings. Why don’t you go do something about that?”
Earlier this year, a bipartisan group of legislators introduced a bill to fully fund the Victim Compensation Fund. The fund had announced that due to budget shortfalls it might have to cut the awards it grants by up to 70 percent. Omar and Ocasio-Cortez are two of the 213 co-sponsors of the bill in the House.
Earlier this year, the Anti-Defamation League released a report that found 49 of the 50 deaths caused by domestic terrorism in the United States were tied to white supremacy and anti-government extremism.
Last week, a New York man and avowed Trump supporter was arrested by federal authorities for allegedly threatening to kill Omar.
According to a criminal complaint, Patrick Carlineo Jr., 55, called Omar’s office and told staffers that “she’s a f***ing terrorist” and “I’ll put a bullet in her f***ing sku
 
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HomerJS

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This is the kind of thing the right wing looks for. Selective editing and the blast it all over their swamp and it gets mainstreamed.

Meanwhile they just ignore the real vile shit Trump spouts almost daily.

Trump and his people don't care if what they are doing puts Omar's life in danger. A Muslim and a person of color. That's just a 2-fer for them.
 

SlowSpyder

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I don't care that she's a muslim, I think few do. What I do care about is that she seems to be a terrible person.
 

SlowSpyder

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Your definition of a terrible person is mentally warped.

I doubt you could name 3 things Omar as done that would label her terrible. Meanshile the guy you support, that list is endless.


She white washed 9/11, she has a history of being overly critical of Jews, she thinks ICE should be abolished (LOL), and she's suffers from a significant case of TDS. She's awful.
 

dank69

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I don't care that she's a muslim, I think few do. What I do care about is that she seems to be a terrible person.
The good thing for you is that it is illegal to threaten or harm people just for being terrible. If I were you I'd keep my fingers crossed that Trump doesn't convince enough sheep like you that changing those laws would be a good thing.
 

HomerJS

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She white washed 9/11, she has a history of being overly critical of Jews, she thinks ICE should be abolished (LOL), and she's suffers from a significant case of TDS. She's awful.
Your first one is utter bullshit. 4 words in a 20 minute speech used in the context to explain how people are labeling all Muslims terrorists.

Your second one, she has been critical of AIPAC and Bibi which is in no way hating on the people of Israel. Kissing Bibi's ass is not Middle East policy.

Abolish ICE, just a policy disagreement

TDS - just some shit you made up.

You really want to compare Omar to the vile list that is Trump? Oh that's right I forgot, you are still on your knees.
 

SlowSpyder

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The good thing for you is that it is illegal to threaten or harm people just for being terrible. If I were you I'd keep my fingers crossed that Trump doesn't convince enough sheep like you that changing those laws would be a good thing.


Right, we have to get along despite very different views, that's what civilized society does.

Wish the left got the message.
 

SlowSpyder

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Yet you can't criticize Fox News for pushing the narrative that she is a terrorist.


I don't think they've pushed that narrative, at least I have not seen them do so. If they said she was a terrorist, I'd agree, that's going too far.

I have no issue criticizing Fox. All of them, CNN, Fox, MSN, CBS, etc. etc. are little more than political tabloids that pander to an audience any more.
 

JEDIYoda

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She white washed 9/11, -- not really only the republicans thi nk that --- oh it`s also a Republican talking point!! -- nice try though!!

she has a history of being overly critical of Jews, -- I am a jew and I have a history of defending the Jews and her stance does not bother me one bit! Constructive dialog is a good thing!

she thinks ICE should be abolished (LOL), -- In reality ICE as is it right now today needs to be abolished and totally redone


and she's suffers from a significant case of TDS. She's awful.
-- You are a real card dude!!
 

JEDIYoda

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I don't think they've pushed that narrative, at least I have not seen them do so. If they said she was a terrorist, I'd agree, that's going too far.

I have no issue criticizing Fox. All of them, CNN, Fox, MSN, CBS, etc. etc. are little more than political tabloids that pander to an audience any more.
You really are blind...…..they do consider her a terrorist! But even if you heard her called that your mind would register it as something else!!
 

HomerJS

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I don't think they've pushed that narrative, at least I have not seen them do so. If they said she was a terrorist, I'd agree, that's going too far.

I have no issue criticizing Fox. All of them, CNN, Fox, MSN, CBS, etc. etc. are little more than political tabloids that pander to an audience any more.
Fox News called Obama a de facto terrorist yet you still believe their tropes
 

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Right, we have to get along despite very different views, that's what civilized society does.

Wish the left got the message.
Until one side exploits a universal tactic of deceit, spreading around black propaganda.

We have had more than two years of incitement to riot. For instance, go up to any unknown person outside a grocery store and accuse them of all the nonsense you can imagine.

The odds that some "respondent" will punch you in the mouth and send you to a plastic surgeon will rise astronomically.

Even the conservative agenda across administrations shows evidence of attempting to introduce more jungle chaos and uncertainty into the civilized structure of our nation-state. Cut food stamps and other things -- leave everyone to sink or swim on their own -- my win is your loss, so you deserved it -- all the money I "earned" came from nothing but my own efforts, and I owe you nothing of it.

Now we have to listen to all sorts of palaver, like "the FISA courts supported a partisan agenda" or "the Democrats want open borders" or "we're having a border crisis of alien invasion".

Or "there was no collusion! No collusion!"

If America is successful at expunging this corrupting Virus from the White House, they should increase penalties for tax fraud, and widen the scope of treasonous offenses as capital crimes. And they should restore public executions, forcing you to watch -- as a history and civics lesson.
 

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Do these people not realize that somebody could become so bolf as to try to kill Omar just because she is Muslim???

Pretty standard post 9-11 response to someone being a Muslim. Far as the Republican base is concerned, Muslim = Terrorist. Period.

Have the Republican party sunk so low as to actually believe that a Representativre of the house is a "terrorist"?

You called her a Representative, but she is viewed as a Muslim first and foremost.

You know this is dangerous stuff! The sad part would be if she was harmed in some way -- Trump would not even be accussed of instigating this or enabling one of his mentally incapacitated sheeple of feeling they can harm her with no repercussions!!
Are there any good Republicans out there, who will take a stand and say enough of this BS??

Bush once acted like he stood above the fray. But we've been waiting for the "Real Republicans" to stand up since 2016 and oppose Trump. Still waiting, hope no one held their breath.

Look, no one made an effort to reach out to Republicans and build a bridge between them and the Muslim community. Bush failed to start the process, to really dig in and make sure we didn't have this chasm. It is not enough to simply say the words, action as needed. A few prominent members of the Muslim community needed to be elevated in status and given a voice in America. To be demonstrated as part of our larger society and compatible with western values.

Otherwise the theocratic element of Islam, the governance aspect of it, will forever be seen a an existential threat to anyone who views Muslims with suspicion or threat. Who fear that their being different means that they are something to be feared. And acted against. It is simple human tribalism we face, I have said it before and I'll say it again: We have not done nearly enough to overcome it.
 

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Republicans claim to be for free speech and freedom of religion, but if they disagree with your speech or your religion, they'll label you a terrorist or a traitor and want to kill you. Self-labelled 'strict constitutionalists' who believe that the rights secured by the Constitution only apply to them. That is unhinged.
 

Vic

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Right, we have to get along despite very different views, that's what civilized society does.

Wish the left got the message.
I'm going to make the mistake of replying to you one last time in order to attempt explain to you the difference between the right and the left in America today.
Which is that the left universally condemned that deplorable act you brought up, while the right universally agrees with the deplorable act that is the subject of this thread.
 

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She white washed 9/11, she has a history of being overly critical of Jews, she thinks ICE should be abolished (LOL), and she's suffers from a significant case of TDS. She's awful.

You mean shes part of the modern millennial neolib movement? You know - confused and clueless and just saying anything to get media attention.
 

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You mean shes part of the modern millennial neolib movement? You know - confused and clueless and just saying anything to get media attention.
Yep, as even as more and more right wingers, hopped up on more and more inflammatory Republican propaganda, keep shooting up more and more innocent people in more and more synagogues, mosques, churches, and schools, useful idiots like you and Slow will keep bleating the same party lines. Fucking unhinged.
 
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Yep, as even as more and more right wingers, hopped up on more and more inflammatory Republican propaganda, keep shooting up more and more innocent people in more and more synagogues, mosques, churches, and schools, useful idiots like you and Slow will keep bleating the same party lines. Fucking unhinged.

Exaggerate much? You know there are violent acts on both sides but the libs get away with more often. But as far as daily things, wear a MAGA hat in SF - see what happens. Speak your conservative mind at Berkley and get face punched and stomped on by compassionate members of antifa.

But you keep preachin' bro, and keep those rose colored shades on. :cool:
 

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Exaggerate much? You know there are violent acts on both sides but the libs get away with more often. But as far as daily things, wear a MAGA hat in SF - see what happens. Speak your conservative mind at Berkley and get face punched and stomped on by compassionate members of antifa.

But you keep preachin' bro, and keep those rose colored shades on. :cool:

What about serving in the army while transgender?
Or getting a simple cake for your wedding?

Ignore reality much?
 

Vic

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Exaggerate much? You know there are violent acts on both sides but the libs get away with more often. But as far as daily things, wear a MAGA hat in SF - see what happens. Speak your conservative mind at Berkley and get face punched and stomped on by compassionate members of antifa.

But you keep preachin' bro, and keep those rose colored shades on. :cool:

When did both sides shoot up a synagogue or a mosque? When did both sides shoot someone for speaking their mind on campus, like what happened at UW?
Fun fact for you, bro, I live in Portland and have witnessed your 'violent' antifa firsthand, brutally assaulting right wingers' fists with their faces.
You're a bleating sheep, bro. Continuously defending violent and often murderous actions committed by members of your own political tribe, who are spurred on to this violence by inflammatory rhetoric from the leaders of this political tribe, by distracting any discussion of said violence with trivial and often fictional violence of the other political tribe.
But yeah, you keep on telling yourself that knocking a MAGA hat off someone's head is just as violent as a massacre of churchgoers in prayer. Un-fucking-hinged.
 
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What about serving in the army while transgender?
Or getting a simple cake for your wedding?

Ignore reality much?
Slow and Felix were both watching and cheering on the livestream from Christchurch, their precious feels finally vindicated from all the times their MAGA hats had got knocked off their heads online.
 

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Isn't this fun BTW? In a thread about how the Republican party has labelled sitting members of Congress as 'domestic terrorists,' resulting in countless death threats from Republicans towards these lawfully-elected members of Congress, we're having to fend off distractions from unapologetic Republicans that the 'left is just as bad.'
What this means is that Slow and Felix not only approve of this irresponsible propaganda from the Republican party, but have probably taken part in the death threats.