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Originally posted by: coldmeat
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I don't understand how his wall stops someone from going over...

Ignoring the psychological differences an eight foot wall is VERY different than your normal 5.5-6 foot wall. At eight feet you will need something to stand on to even reach the top. Furthermore, there is nothing for the person to grab on to. The concrete itself is very smooth (as opposed to brick and cinder block). The guy also mentioned adding a rounded top or glass. Both prevent someone from using that as leverage to lift themselves up.

Ever hear of a ladder?

Or raising your arms over your head? Or jumping? I feel like this is about $6000 wasted over a standard wooden privacy fence.

Yep. I'm six feet tall. With my arms extended, I wouldn't have to jump that far to reach the top. Its then just a matter of puling yourself up.

Or getting a buddy to boost you up.

Or drive your vehicle up to it, climb on top and jump over.
 
if you have a fence that high you probably are telling criminals i have crap you might wanna jack. and whatever way he gets out, that's how the bad guys would get out. also what if you have an emergency and need to vacate immediately?

guy is dumb. want protection move into a gated community.
 
Originally posted by: Summit
if you have a fence that high you probably are telling criminals i have crap you might wanna jack. and whatever way he gets out, that's how the bad guys would get out. also what if you have an emergency and need to vacate immediately?

guy is dumb. want protection move into a gated community.

That is why you stock up on ammo, and just wait for someone to jump the fence. 😀
 
In all seriousness, his goals are good, but his approach is wrong. (including some that were mentioned earlier)

Firstly, its different. Meaning, now you attract attention. From a security perspective, this is terrible. Thieves wont have to breach the wall, they'll just car jack your family when you drive out. The weakness is the gate. Its a passive deterrent without an active backup. In South America, they have a security force in addition to a sturdy wall. The wall itself does nothing. This is home security, not defense against siege. (though I can see how the zombie reference applies.)

Second, Fire or other emergency. Wall/Gate means police or fire department can't get in. Unless your house is made of ICF or other hardened structure, it probably will burn. Hardwood floor, carpet, drapes, etc. are all flammable. If the gate is stuck, power is out, and house is on fire, there is no where to run unless you scale your own 8 foot wall with broken glass on top.

The solution here is to have an applicable security program depending on the area. In a densely populated area (as shown in the link) it is far more useful to secure the home with polycarbonate windows, solid core doors, video surveillance and a monitored alarm system. The key is to create a "pause" for a would-be intruder, to make the house less attractive to theft/burglary, so that he/she moves onto easier targets. No thief is going to try and breach the structure of the house anyway, it mostly a kicked door or broken window. Home invasions generally are crimes of opportunity rather than methodical, "Italian job-type" heists.

The concrete wall concept, while psychologically impressive, ultimately is a costly and inappropriate solution for his home security needs. It probably will have an impact on his home's resale value. I can just imagine an array of possible problems owners would have, drainage issues when it rains, vegetation growth, structural weakness, etc. not to mention it feels like a prison.

*Note, the wall does have some applications in high crime areas (ie Newark, Detroit, etc.) where there is stray gunfire. But if you live in an area with people shooting each other, you probably should save some money and move, rather than build a concrete wall.
 
Originally posted by: caspur
In all seriousness, his goals are good, but his approach is wrong. (including some that were mentioned earlier)

Firstly, its different. Meaning, now you attract attention. From a security perspective, this is terrible. Thieves wont have to breach the wall, they'll just car jack your family when you drive out. The weakness is the gate. Its a passive deterrent without an active backup. In South America, they have a security force in addition to a sturdy wall. The wall itself does nothing. This is home security, not defense against siege. (though I can see how the zombie reference applies.)

Second, Fire or other emergency. Wall/Gate means police or fire department can't get in. Unless your house is made of ICF or other hardened structure, it probably will burn. Hardwood floor, carpet, drapes, etc. are all flammable. If the gate is stuck, power is out, and house is on fire, there is no where to run unless you scale your own 8 foot wall with broken glass on top.

The solution here is to have an applicable security program depending on the area. In a densely populated area (as shown in the link) it is far more useful to secure the home with polycarbonate windows, solid core doors, video surveillance and a monitored alarm system. The key is to create a "pause" for a would-be intruder, to make the house less attractive to theft/burglary, so that he/she moves onto easier targets. No thief is going to try and breach the structure of the house anyway, it mostly a kicked door or broken window. Home invasions generally are crimes of opportunity rather than methodical, "Italian job-type" heists.

The concrete wall concept, while psychologically impressive, ultimately is a costly and inappropriate solution for his home security needs. It probably will have an impact on his home's resale value. I can just imagine an array of possible problems owners would have, drainage issues when it rains, vegetation growth, structural weakness, etc. not to mention it feels like a prison.

*Note, the wall does have some applications in high crime areas (ie Newark, Detroit, etc.) where there is stray gunfire. But if you live in an area with people shooting each other, you probably should save some money and move, rather than build a concrete wall.

yup, sneak in behind car or wait at the gate. without cameras/guards...attracting attention like that is stupid.
 
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I don't understand how his wall stops someone from going over...

Seriously. I could be over that thing in like 3 seconds.

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I don't understand how his wall stops someone from going over...

Ignoring the psychological differences an eight foot wall is VERY different than your normal 5.5-6 foot wall. At eight feet you will need something to stand on to even reach the top. Furthermore, there is nothing for the person to grab on to. The concrete itself is very smooth (as opposed to brick and cinder block). The guy also mentioned adding a rounded top or glass. Both prevent someone from using that as leverage to lift themselves up.

Someone 6 foot or more (me), can just reach up and jump and easily grab the top and flip right over it.

If he rounds it off that would be a bit of a problem. But I still think an athletic person could still get over it pretty easily. The problem would be getting whatever you took over it. If you just took small things no problem, but bigger things that would break if thrown over would be a problem.

if someone really wants in, there's probably nothing you can do to stop them... but it'd keep out the casual crackhead or punk kid.

True. But it might also tell them that there is something extra special behind there.


edit: Caspur hit the nail on the head.
 
Originally posted by: legoman666
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
he's fucked when i build a zombie catapult

post of the day.

As someone else said, do you really think it would be difficult to climb over a 8' wall? I think not.

If you read the whole thread, he talks about glass shards on top after the last city inspector goes away. Oh, and the moat and rotweilers.
 
Or you could have a redoubt in Maine of the immune, where it was 'too cold' for the virus to survive.

<- still pissed that the ending of I Am Legend didn't stay true to the book.
 
that's normal around here, they have 12' high zombie free barrier zones......no but in all seriousness around here a 8' concrete wall for a small home is not uncommon
 
It's probably a little over-the-top, but part of me wants one. With vines growing on it it might even look fairly nice.
 
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Anyway, this guy is nuts, I bet he goes around wearing a tin foil hat. Now that he has that wall, people will get interested as to what he has behind it. I bet not enough a concrete fence can stand up to several pounds of tnt.

Agreed that the guy is nuts, but disagreed on the "several pounds of TNT". TNT isn't that strong, and several pounds against a reinforced concrete wall (see the rebar in the pictures?) would make a scorch mark, though it also depends on the quality of the concrete he's using.

Maybe he's nostalgic for the compounds in Iraq? His wall reminds me of all those T-barriers they use over there, except the ones over there are 12-15 ft not some paltry 8 ft pretender. 😉
 
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I don't understand how his wall stops someone from going over...

Ignoring the psychological differences an eight foot wall is VERY different than your normal 5.5-6 foot wall. At eight feet you will need something to stand on to even reach the top. Furthermore, there is nothing for the person to grab on to. The concrete itself is very smooth (as opposed to brick and cinder block). The guy also mentioned adding a rounded top or glass. Both prevent someone from using that as leverage to lift themselves up.

i'm 6 feet tall. i could defeat this mighty wall with the help of a milk crate. lacking a milk crate, a homeless person would probably do.

You're 6' tall and you need a milk crate to climb an 8' wall?
 
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