This guy has all the hallmarks of a coward

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Dari

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Why choose to go into politics if you're afraid to die? Appeasing and ingratiating yourself with monsters never works. He should've stuck to entertainment.

Imran Khan says Taliban's 'holy war' in Afghanistan is justified by Islamic law

Pakistani politician's comments at hospital that treated shooting victim Malala Yousafzai outrage Afghanistan's government








Jon Boone in Islamabad

guardian.co.uk, Sunday 14 October 2012 10.20 EDT



Afghan men burn an effigy of Pakistani politician Imran Khan after he said the Taliban were fighting a jihad against US and western forces. Photograph: Jangir/AFP/Getty Images


Afghanistan's government has lashed out at Imran Khan after the former Pakistan cricket star, now a politician, said the Taliban were fighting a "holy war" in the country that was justified by Islamic law.

Speaking after visiting a hospital in Peshawar where Malala Yousafzai – the 14-year-old activist shot in the head by the Taliban for supporting girls' education – was treated last week, Khan told reporters that insurgents in Afghanistan were fighting a "jihad". Citing a verse from the Qur'an, he said: "It is very clear that whoever is fighting for their freedom is fighting a jihad …

"The people who are fighting in Afghanistan against the foreign occupation are fighting a jihad," he added, according to a video of remarks to journalists.

Afghan politicians have reacted with disbelief, with one parliamentarian suggesting Khan should be arrested. The Ulema Council, a grouping of senior clerics, declared his comments "unislamic".

A Kabul foreign ministry spokesman said Khan was "either profoundly and dangerously ignorant about the reality in Afghanistan, or he has ill will against the Afghan people.

"Our children are killed on daily basis, civilians killed and our schools, hospitals and infrastructure attacked on a daily basis. To call any of that jihad is profoundly wrong and misguided."

Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president, has written to all of Pakistan's political leaders, including Khan, saying: "We must ask why we have been unable to counter the terrorism that is attacking our people, and the promise of a better future for our children."

Khan has also courted criticism by saying he will not publicly name the Taliban while criticising the men who attempted to kill Malala, because he feared it would put his party's supporters at risk.

The row with Kabul highlights the awkward political situation Khan has found himself in recent days. He has long blamed the rise of the Taliban in the country on the US, saying its military operations in Afghanistan and the CIA drone strikes in Pakistan's tribal belt are responsible for the upsurge in militancy.

But his populist position has been challenged by the almost unprecedented public anger against the Pakistani Taliban triggered by the attempt to kill Malala as she sat in a van with her classmates in Swat last Tuesday.

While many observers fear the mood of national outrage will ultimately change little, the country's media continues to cover the saga intensively while the country's powerful military chief called on the nation to "unite and stand up to fight" against extremism.

The foreign minister has even suggested the attack might be a turning point for a country that has long struggled to muster support for a decisive push against militants. On Sunday, tens of thousands of people attended a rally in Karachi in support of Malala, organised by the Muttahida Qaumi movement, the dominant political party in the southern city.

Malala is unconscious and in intensive care in a military hospital in the garrison city of Rawalpindi. A military spokesman said her condition was improving and that no decision had been made as to whether she should be sent overseas, despite an offer from the United Arab Emirates to supply an air ambulance.

Local media continued to focus on her condition despite government warnings that the Pakistani Taliban, apparently angered by criticism of the attack on Malala, had ordered attacks on journalists.
 

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Yes that so proves it, if one Taliban idiot is rotten all the Taliban is rotten, in exactly the same way Linde England, SGT Granger, and LT Calley proved every one in the USA was even worse.
 

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Yes that so proves it, if one Taliban idiot is rotten all the Taliban is rotten, in exactly the same way Linde England, SGT Granger, and LT Calley proved every one in the USA was even worse.
wow how ironic that you are defending the Taliban......do you even have a clue....
 

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It is nice to hear politicians over there speaking out against the Taliban though.
 

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There's hope for Afghanistan. Hopefully Pakistan doesn't fuck them up though.
 

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Yes that so proves it, if one Taliban idiot is rotten all the Taliban is rotten, in exactly the same way Linde England, SGT Granger, and LT Calley proved every one in the USA was even worse.

actually..you are right. but i don't believe the Taliban is evil. just misguided on GOD and his word. They then take it to extreme.

Saying that i have no problem with a Soldier putting them down.

Organized religion..the cause of more death then needed.


There's hope for Afghanistan. Hopefully Pakistan doesn't fuck them up though.

/this
 

yllus

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Imran Khan would have been a great politician in a movie, where the enemy is will defined and obvious, the problems faced are simple and momentary and the people really are with you.

But this is reality, where the enemy blends seamlessly with innocents, the problems are myriad and the people partially sympathize with why the bad guys are doing bad things. In reality, he is a well-intentioned simpleton who would lead his country to even greater chaos if he attained power.
 

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actually..you are right. but i don't believe the Taliban is evil. just misguided on GOD and his word. They then take it to extreme.

Saying that i have no problem with a Soldier putting them down.

Organized religion..the cause of more death then needed.




/this

As was Mao and Stalin who killed those in organized religion quite well. Oh well, atheist killing the religious is justified by some.

The Taliban is the embodiment of evil. Every measure they have taken has been by cruelty, violence and abuse. They crave power above all, because like Mao they are right and killing in the name of their philosophy or religion suits their goal. You really need to read up on them. What humanitarian efforts have they embraced? Feeding the hungry? Human rights? They are cut from the came cloth as the worst of the Nazis, or Communists, or Idi Amin in his cannibalistic moments. Oh well, I supposed even Hitler loved his mother.
 

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Imran Khan would have been a great politician in a movie, where the enemy is will defined and obvious, the problems faced are simple and momentary and the people really are with you.

But this is reality, where the enemy blends seamlessly with innocents, the problems are myriad and the people partially sympathize with why the bad guys are doing bad things. In reality, he is a well-intentioned simpleton who would lead his country to even greater chaos if he attained power.

The reality of Pakistan is they decided to work with Al Qaeda and the Taliban in attacking anyone who would have benefited the Afghan people. For our part we can't hold our head up in any of this because we funded Pakistan who then funnelled funds and material support against Massoud, who was an Islamist, but supported the concept of a humane and progressive Islam which included the enfranchisement and rights of women. That was our greatest mistake, and that can be traced back before Bush to Clinton. We picked the wrong dog by our foolishness and that ultimately is the reason that Afghanistan is a no win situation. The ones who had the chance to make a peaceful society, who were respected by the people are dead. There's not much left but Karzai and the Taliban, with Pakistan and Genghis Khan here backing the latter. A campaign led by idiots, full of foolishness and disaster, signifying worthlessness.
 

Dari

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actually..you are right. but i don't believe the Taliban is evil. just misguided on GOD and his word. They then take it to extreme.

Saying that i have no problem with a Soldier putting them down.

Organized religion..the cause of more death then needed.




/this

You prove your stupidity time and time again...
 

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Yes that so proves it, if one Taliban idiot is rotten all the Taliban is rotten, in exactly the same way Linde England, SGT Granger, and LT Calley proved every one in the USA was even worse.

You have to love how this morphs from "let's not generalize about Muslims" to "let's not generalize about all Taliban." All with a dash of irrelevant "equivalencies." Apologia at its most moronic.
 

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What sails over our heads on this thread, is that most people are over generalizing about the Islamic religion and also about Pakistan.

As they also ignored something very positive about Pakistan. With, "The foreign minister has even suggested the attack might be a turning point for a country that has long struggled to muster support for a decisive push against militants. On Sunday, tens of thousands of people attended a rally in Karachi in support of Malala, organised by the Muttahida Qaumi movement, the dominant political party in the southern city."

But I think all of can agree, even the Taliban leadership realizes it was a giant mistake to try to assassinate Malala, and the Taliban has suffered a huge PR hit as a result.

But still the general ignorance on this thread is glaring, as Pakistan is really two quite different countries. The bulk of Pakistan is a Western style government that has endorsed modern ideas. As a result Taliban style ideas have zero appeal. While the Tribal areas of Pakistan greatly resemble Afghanistan. For a rough analogy, think of the USA immediately after our civil war. Even if the USA owned all the land between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, the USA had not gotten around to developing the land West of the Rockies and East of the Sierra Mountains. But still the inhabitants of the Tribal areas were not hostile to Pakistan, until the US started its drone strikes in the Pakistani Tribal areas. And now the people there hate Nato and the Pakistani army with a passion.

But in terms of Al-Quida, Pakistan has arrested more Al-Quida agents than the rest of the world combined.
 

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You have to love how this morphs from "let's not generalize about Muslims" to "let's not generalize about all Taliban." All with a dash of irrelevant "equivalencies." Apologia at its most moronic.

Anyone defending the Taliban should check in with the nearest mental hospital. I bet they will still do that even if those terrorists have a knife at their throats because EVUL AMERIKA.
 
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