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This goes to the idiots that will not get their kids vaccinated

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Measles outbreaks may be linked to vaccine fears


So to all the anti-vaccine nuts... thanks. You are a major reason why basic disease is making a small come back.

Oh and for those that want to play the ?but the thimerosal causes autism...?

Removal of Mercury From Child Vaccines Fails to Halt Autism Increase

Nope did not have any effect. Autism still went up after removing it. Of course I think autism is the ADD of this decade. Yea it is real, but how mnay of the cases are just lazy parents/doctors and/or drug companies pushing their drugs and their ideas?


I am glad to know that my child will be safer from yours after they are vaccinated.

UPDATE:

Another story...

Study: No link between measles vaccine and autism

The conclusion: "no evidence" linked the vaccine to either autism or GI disorders, Lipkin said.
 
It's like people who insist on home schooling but they themselves are barely educated and completley unqualified to teach.

It's like people with unhealthy diets and obsessive food habits who force poor nutrition on their children who end up with calcium and protien deficiencies.
 
Whether or not more cases of autism are being diagnosed because we are just more aware of the symptoms being tied to autism or people being lazy and just assigning autism to other causes is not the issue. Besides these factors it is indisputable that the number of autism cases are rising, almost to epidemic proportions, and parents are searching for a cause. Until medical science comes up with the true cause behind autism you are going to find all kinds of voodoo science solutions to this growing problem.

I just can't go so far as to call these parents "nuts."
 
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
why do you care if it does not effect your kid? just raise your kid. :roll:
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It does have an effect on everyone. Healthcare costs increase, chances of new, resistant, strains of old diseases appearing increase ... in general it's terrible.
 
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
why do you care if it does not effect your kid? just raise your kid. :roll:
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It does have an effect on everyone. Healthcare costs increase, chances of new, resistant, strains of old diseases appearing increase ... in general it's terrible.
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Isn't that like PITA or vegans? or hating SUV drivers?
I understand how someone might feel, but that doesnt give them right to tell others what to do.
 
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
why do you care if it does not effect your kid? just raise your kid. :roll:
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It does have an effect on everyone. Healthcare costs increase, chances of new, resistant, strains of old diseases appearing increase ... in general it's terrible.
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Isn't that like PITA or vegans? or hating SUV drivers?
I understand how someone might feel, but that doesnt give them right to tell others what to do.
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I never said I had a right to tell anyone what to do, I just wish people wouldn't be so stupid and dispute sound medical advice.
 
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
why do you care if it does not effect your kid? just raise your kid. :roll:
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It does have an effect on everyone. Healthcare costs increase, chances of new, resistant, strains of old diseases appearing increase ... in general it's terrible.
Click to expand...

Isn't that like PITA or vegans? or hating SUV drivers?
I understand how someone might feel, but that doesnt give them right to tell others what to do.
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I never said I had a right to tell anyone what to do, I just wish people wouldn't be so stupid and dispute sound medical advice.
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Now there is an oxymoron if I ever saw one.

Although I am nowhere as smart as a doctor, I can tell you that health-care professionals are so far from infallible that it has become the norm to take everything they say with a grain of salt.

How many times have we seen pronouncements by medical professionals be later reversed?

And, this is coming from a group of people that kill 100,000 of their otherwise healthy patients every year through mistakes.

This doesn't mean that we have ignore what they say, but I'm far from taking everything they say as some sort of divine pronouncement.



 
Did you read the article? Nearly half of the cases involved unvaccinated children. Hmmm........seems to me then that more than 50% of the cases were in children that were vaccinated. so much for vaccines as a cure all.

It seems to me that if you little ones are vaccinated they are protected. Shoot em up Tex. It will solve all the disease.
 
Originally posted by: darrontrask
Did you read the article? Nearly half of the cases involved unvaccinated children. Hmmm........seems to me then that more than 50% of the cases were in children that were vaccinated. so much for vaccines as a cure all.

It seems to me that if you little ones are vaccinated they are protected. Shoot em up Tex. It will solve all the disease.
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The statistic you're looking for is infection rates in vaccinated vs. non-vaccinated. To make a conclusion as you did simply on total number of infections is silly.
 
Alright, have a sound medical theory here, and it needs to be tested.
Pregnant moms, start taking fish oil supplements. Good supplements without mercury, obvious.
Omega 3s are essential to the development of the brain, but the manufactured lifestyle we live these days gives everyone a serious lack of Omega 3s. A year ago, there was a discovery of a potential link to fighting autism with Omega 3s in babies who had been discovered to have the disorder. If enough Omega 3s are given to the fetus while in the womb, isn't there a chance that the addition of Omega 3s, of which are vital to the cellular growth in the brain, would be beneficial in the long running health of the child?

Omega 3s are starting to look like the natural cure all for this deprived society. Harvested foods, farm-raised animals... all tend to lack natural Omega 3s, fatty acids that our ancestors would have gotten plenty of living a more wild lifestyle.
I'm currently on a self-experiment with Omega 3s for ADD symptoms, and here's to hoping it works with that. It's too early to tell if it'll work on me or not.
 
Originally posted by: darrontrask
Did you read the article? Nearly half of the cases involved unvaccinated children. Hmmm........seems to me then that more than 50% of the cases were in children that were vaccinated. so much for vaccines as a cure all.

It seems to me that if you little ones are vaccinated they are protected. Shoot em up Tex. It will solve all the disease.
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That's not how vaccines work. For various reasons, the vaccine does not work in a small percentage of people (depending on the vaccine, it can be above 10%). However, if everyone gets vaccinated there are so few people that aren't immune that the disease is still eradicated because it can't spread (this is called herd immunity). As a result, those not getting vaccines do effect those who have gotten the vaccines.
 
..nearly all of em are eco-KOOKS, PETA members and smoke dope so the anti-vaccine froth is just another symptom of their group psychosis.
 
I don't know how many times I've had my MMR and dip-Tet. Being in the health care field, I always need it, and my record keeping sucks so I end up getting them over and over. (dip-Tet at least every five years anyways.)

My last MMR titer came back negative, so I had it again a few months ago. (Yes, you can have your blood tested for it, but it costs more so I usually just say "give me the damn shot") Luckily, my hep-B vaccine came back fine, didn't want to do that again.
 
Originally posted by: 911paramedic
I don't know how many times I've had my MMR and dip-Tet. Being in the health care field, I always need it, and my record keeping sucks so I end up getting them over and over. (dip-Tet at least every five years anyways.)

My last MMR titer came back negative, so I had it again a few months ago. (Yes, you can have your blood tested for it, but it costs more so I usually just say "give me the damn shot") Luckily, my hep-B vaccine came back fine, didn't want to do that again.
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I had to get a booster after my series of three Hep-B vaccines b/c my titer came back showing no antibodies. The booster worked thank you very much.

It is true that some people just don't respond to vaccinations like they should or maybe the vaccine was crap.
 
Originally posted by: IGBT
..nearly all of em are eco-KOOKS, PETA members and smoke dope so the anti-vaccine froth is just another symptom of their group psychosis.
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Yet another presumptuous post from IGBT.
 
Originally posted by: IGBT
..nearly all of em are eco-KOOKS, PETA members and smoke dope so the anti-vaccine froth is just another symptom of their group psychosis.
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Another wonderful conclusion by our village propaganda guzzler.

WILL READ AGAIN!

@ destrekor - That's really interesting... My girlfriend has been taking those pills for Omega 3 acids and she's already noticed some improvements across the board. I never thought to look at the connection of low fatty acids in mothers and the children said mothers carry in them.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Alright, have a sound medical theory here, and it needs to be tested.
Pregnant moms, start taking fish oil supplements. Good supplements without mercury, obvious.
Omega 3s are essential to the development of the brain, but the manufactured lifestyle we live these days gives everyone a serious lack of Omega 3s. A year ago, there was a discovery of a potential link to fighting autism with Omega 3s in babies who had been discovered to have the disorder. If enough Omega 3s are given to the fetus while in the womb, isn't there a chance that the addition of Omega 3s, of which are vital to the cellular growth in the brain, would be beneficial in the long running health of the child?

Omega 3s are starting to look like the natural cure all for this deprived society. Harvested foods, farm-raised animals... all tend to lack natural Omega 3s, fatty acids that our ancestors would have gotten plenty of living a more wild lifestyle.
I'm currently on a self-experiment with Omega 3s for ADD symptoms, and here's to hoping it works with that. It's too early to tell if it'll work on me or not.
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Yep Omega3's and Folic acid are must haves IMO for pregnant women. My wife, pregnant, right now takes body fish oil(cod liver fish oil is a no no for pregnant women), calcium pill, and a prenatal vititam pill each day.
But Omega3's, which are high in fish, and are one of the things they think helps asians live a long and healthy life as well.

We are doing everything we can to make sure the pregancy goes well and our child has every chance at a good life.
Funny that people seem to want what they can;t have. So my wife who drinks maybe 4 wine coolers in a good year at most wants one real bad right now. I giove her fruit drinks but they don;t have the flavor she wants. That and she can't whiten her teeth and/or dye her hair.

And after he/she is born they will get all their shots.
 
Hopefully smallpox returns for these idiots. We will all have to be re-vaccinated, but they will refuse - and we all will win.
 
Illegal immigration doesn't help..........

http://www.dcourier.com/main.a...onID=1&articleID=52244

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n...e.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275


Illegal immigration is bringing many previously erradicated diseases back into our country.

Add that to the idiot citizens of this country that have prescribed to the......"I do what I want, when I want, 'cuz I'm entitled to anything I want, whenever I want so I'm not going to vaccinate my child" mentality and.........voila............there ya' go.

Next up.........full bore socialism!

:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
why do you care if it does not effect your kid? just raise your kid. :roll:
Click to expand...

It does have an effect on everyone. Healthcare costs increase, chances of new, resistant, strains of old diseases appearing increase ... in general it's terrible.
Click to expand...

Isn't that like PITA or vegans? or hating SUV drivers?
I understand how someone might feel, but that doesnt give them right to tell others what to do.
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This is why universal health care is vital. Otherwise the swinish masses are a petri dish for pestilence which of course does not discriminate.
 
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
why do you care if it does not effect your kid? just raise your kid. :roll:
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Because it does affect his kid. Being vaccinated doesn't just protect you, it protects everyone around you. Sending his kid to a school where not everyone is vaccinated greatly increases his kid's risk of a potentially deadly disease such as measles.

Vaccination is not 100% effective - however, it doesn't need to be. It only needs to be effective enough so that so many people are immune that the disease is very unlikely spread, because not enough people become contagious.

This is something called 'herd immunity'. If about 90-95% of people are vaccinated, their immunity will protect those that aren't immune, and prevent disease outbreaks. However, drop the number of vaccinated people below that level, and the population immunity isn't strong enough, and you get disease outbreaks (which can affect those who are vaccinated).

A vaccination program loses its biggest benefit if not everyone joins in.
 
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
Originally posted by: MustangSVT
why do you care if it does not effect your kid? just raise your kid. :roll:
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It does have an effect on everyone. Healthcare costs increase, chances of new, resistant, strains of old diseases appearing increase ... in general it's terrible.
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On the other hand it helps Darwin out some of the deserving people, a great process which doesn't happen as much as it should anymore. Fair tradeoff as far as I'm concerned.
 
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