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"Third" (second) debate thread

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senseamp said:
Trump definitely did better than last time. Although I question if anything matters at this point. Most people have decided long ago.
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Trump doing better than last time is an incredibly low bar. He did do better, he started off okay and and then went down hill about a third of the way through. Trump said absolutely nothing substantive. He lied or misled a lot.
 
woolfe9998 said:
She has, but some of that is perception based on the fact that Trump came into this one determined not to interrupt. She hasn't had as difficult a job as Wallace did.
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That’s true which is why I was sure to give credit to the debate format, as in the mute button.
 
At this point I don’t think the two candidates are the victim, I think the American people are the victim. When we the viewers are subject to these debates I feel like we are the ones getting beat up. Our intelligence are threatened, our brains are threatened, and our stamina is threatened. I feel like Dorothy, I made it through the tornado, I made it out of the crushed house, now I just need to make it through the enchanted forest. Damn, this yellow brick road is a bitch to navigate.
 
ivwshane said:
That’s true which is why I was sure to give credit to the debate format, as in the mute button.
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He didn't interrupt without the mute on though. It was an intended tactic. Apparently someone got through to him that his behavior in the first debate cost him in the polls.

Still, Trump did nothing to move the needle in his favor tonight. He's just didn't hurt himself badly likely he did in the first one.
 
sportage said:
At this point I don’t think the two candidates are the victim, I think the American people are the victim. When we the viewers are subject to these debates I feel like we are the ones getting beat up. Our intelligence are threatened, our brains are threatened, and our stamina is threatened. I feel like Dorothy, I made it through the tornado, I made it out of the crushed house, now I just need to make it through the enchanted forest. Damn, this yellow brick road is a bitch to navigate.
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If I were you I’d step away from politics until at least next January. You don’t seem right in the head right now and I’m not saying that to be disrespectful, it’s out of concern.
 
Correct me if I’m wrong but Trump failed to articulate any 2nd term goals except to make it like it was in January.
 
The biggest laugh I had was when Trump said 150 million people love health their insurance plans.

I can't think of a single time I've heard someone talk about their plan like that.
 
K1052 said:
Correct me if I’m wrong but Trump failed to articulate any 2nd term goals except to make it like it was in January.
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Again, Biden was the only one offering anything of substance. Trump was just rehashed lies and alleged accomplishments. Nothing of what they will do.
 
Haha. True, Donald was possibly more controlled but just watching Trump’s face twist and turn gave it all away. Like I’ve said before, I have friends in New Jersey and they all have the very same facial expressions when frustrated. Trump was in pain trying to act human. Trying to listen while someone else was talking. This last debate was nothing new and will not change one single mind. For those who claim to still be undecided, you probably shouldn’t vote at all. Seriously....
 
MrPickins said:
The biggest laugh I had was when Trump said 150 million people love health their insurance plans.

I can't think of a single time I've heard someone talk about their plan like that.
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I remember fondly all the times I’ve thought to myself I love....United Heathcare.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Probably the same people who laughably think a moronically written email was from Prouboys that was infact written by Iranians.

God forbid people try some critical thinking.
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I mean you calling people morons and accusing them of lacking critical thinking skills is laughable. Everyone makes mistakes, but the shoe fit in this case. Regardlesss, you may be somewhat decent at crunching numbers in a small little business bubble, you suck at everything else to do with logic and critical thinking.
 
K1052 said:
I remember fondly all the times I’ve thought to myself I love....United Heathcare.
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Meh, I've liked my employer provided insurance. If I've had issues they were always addressed.

I mean, feel free to crap on the haves and have nots, it's hard to say that the haves have it bad.
 
MrPickins said:
The biggest laugh I had was when Trump said 150 million people love health their insurance plans.

I can't think of a single time I've heard someone talk about their plan like that.
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Yeah... I don't think that anybody likes private health insurance. I think that we've all been screwed over by them at some point.

That said, I doubt that a government run "Medicaid+" plan would be any better. Same bureaucracy, with probably even worse customer service. Imagine healthcare reimbursement being run by something like your local DMV office... yeah, not cool.
 
ultimatebob said:
Yeah... I don't think that anybody likes private health insurance. I think that we've all been screwed over by them at some point.

That said, I doubt that a government run "Medicaid+" plan would be any better. Same bureaucracy, with probably even worse customer service. Imagine healthcare reimbursement being run by something like your local DMV office... yeah, not cool.
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Or they could just keep running it like they do; most people on Medicare like it and don't want it to go away.
 
The US employer paid insurance system isn’t even liked by business or the US Chamber of Commerce. The economy and business would skyrocket if employers weren’t responsible for paying for healthcare.

A Government subsidized medicare for all plan that people pay their share with through taxes would be the best system.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Meh, I've liked my employer provided insurance. If I've had issues they were always addressed.

I mean, feel free to crap on the haves and have nots, it's hard to say that the haves have it bad.
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I like having heathcare. I am not passionate about the entity that facilitates that. If I could acquire government health coverage at equal or lower cost with similar or better benefits that wasn’t attached to a particular employer I’d def take that instead.
 
ultimatebob said:
Yeah... I don't think that anybody likes private health insurance. I think that we've all been screwed over by them at some point.

That said, I doubt that a government run "Medicaid+" plan would be any better. Same bureaucracy, with probably even worse customer service. Imagine healthcare reimbursement being run by something like your local DMV office... yeah, not cool.
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A huge chunk of Medicaid and Medicare enrollees don't have the government as a payor, they're enrolled in Medicare Advantage plans and Medicaid MCOs. That should continue under a Medicare-for-all program.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Meh, I've liked my employer provided insurance. If I've had issues they were always addressed.

I mean, feel free to crap on the haves and have nots, it's hard to say that the haves have it bad.
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Employer-provided insurance is just another mechanism to restrict employee mobility.

If you have a chronic condition, you can't just up and leave or start a business. The insurance risk and/or cost is huge.

Universal healthcare would be a boon for small businesses, startups, and american innovation
 
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