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JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: Miklebud
For 8G's you can get an amazing motorcycle...

Don't know how to ride one, and they seem harder to learn how to ride.

Can you ride a bicycle?

Take the MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) course and get your license. That course is offered at local community colleges usually.

I think I can, I use to ride them all the time before I wen to college 6 years ago, but haven't been on one since. But they say it like learning how to walk, you never forget how.

Well, go ride a bicycle to get used to balancing and riding a two wheeled vehicle again. Then go take the motorcycle safety course if you're really serious about this. I'm not positive but I think you need a motorcycle license to operate a scooter or moped, most states consider it the same as a motorcycle.

If you take the MSF course it waives the DMV driving test for getting your motorcycle endorsement. Also, you'll be learning on small 150-250cc motorcycles with a clutch and manual transmission so at the very least you'll gain some experience with them to help you decide whether you want a motorcycle or a scooter.

I just bought a Suzuki SV650 about a month ago and I already have 700 miles on it (this is not my first bike BTW). It's funny, people say that this is a good first bike but I think it would probably be intimidating for the novice rider. It's plenty quick...quicker than most cars anyway. I've ridden bigger bikes but more power adds more weight and the SV650 is fast enough for me but light enough to be really fun on twisty roads.
 

ICRS

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Ruptga

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Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: Miklebud
For 8G's you can get an amazing motorcycle...

Don't know how to ride one, and they seem harder to learn how to ride.

uhhh, hate to break it to you, but at 650cc you are most definately talking about a motorcycle, regardless of whether the body looks like a vespa or whatever.

And yeah 8k is just a weeeee bit high, do yourself a favor and pick up a used 500cc with about 3k miles for about as many dollars. Heck, if it's mpg you're after get a 150, I have one and I consistently get around 65mpg.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: Miklebud
For 8G's you can get an amazing motorcycle...

Don't know how to ride one, and they seem harder to learn how to ride.

uhhh, hate to break it to you, but at 650cc you are most definately talking about a motorcycle, regardless of whether the body looks like a vespa or whatever.

And yeah 8k is just a weeeee bit high, do yourself a favor and pick up a used 500cc with about 3k miles for about as many dollars. Heck, if it's mpg you're after get a 150, I have one and I consistently get around 65mpg.

A used 500 with 3k miles for $8k? That's also really high. You could buy a used SV650 for $3.5-$4k.

BTW-I rode Saturday and averaged 57.7mpg with my SV650. Typical stop and go city riding gets me 45mpg though.
 

Ruptga

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: Miklebud
For 8G's you can get an amazing motorcycle...

Don't know how to ride one, and they seem harder to learn how to ride.

uhhh, hate to break it to you, but at 650cc you are most definately talking about a motorcycle, regardless of whether the body looks like a vespa or whatever.

And yeah 8k is just a weeeee bit high, do yourself a favor and pick up a used 500cc with about 3k miles for about as many dollars. Heck, if it's mpg you're after get a 150, I have one and I consistently get around 65mpg.

A used 500 with 3k miles for $8k? That's also really high. You could buy a used SV650 for $3.5-$4k.

BTW-I rode Saturday and averaged 57.7mpg with my SV650. Typical stop and go city riding gets me 45mpg though.

I meant a used 500 with 3k miles for about 3k bucks, sorry about that
 

Yreka

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: Miklebud
For 8G's you can get an amazing motorcycle...

Don't know how to ride one, and they seem harder to learn how to ride.

uhhh, hate to break it to you, but at 650cc you are most definately talking about a motorcycle, regardless of whether the body looks like a vespa or whatever.

And yeah 8k is just a weeeee bit high, do yourself a favor and pick up a used 500cc with about 3k miles for about as many dollars. Heck, if it's mpg you're after get a 150, I have one and I consistently get around 65mpg.

A used 500 with 3k miles for $8k? That's also really high. You could buy a used SV650 for $3.5-$4k.

BTW-I rode Saturday and averaged 57.7mpg with my SV650. Typical stop and go city riding gets me 45mpg though.


SV650 is a great beginners bike too.. I always recommend that bike to people starting out..
( who always seem to want to opt for the GSXR)

Its tame enough to learn on, but not so much so that you grow out of it too quickly.
 
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Originally posted by: Instan00dles
My father has a 450 suzuki burgman and its a great little scooter. It does 140km/hr, gets 4.2l per 100kms and handles very very well. Only things I don't like about it is how high and forward you have to swing your legs after taking off from a start but would get used to it after a while of riding and how the transmission but once again it is something to get used to.

A co-worker of mine had one of THESE. Normally I cannot stand scooters, but I liked that one quite a bit. I was amazed by how quiet it was when it was running. She got rid of it eventually and got a Honda of some sort, but I cannot find the one she got on Honda's site.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Yreka
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: Miklebud
For 8G's you can get an amazing motorcycle...

Don't know how to ride one, and they seem harder to learn how to ride.

uhhh, hate to break it to you, but at 650cc you are most definately talking about a motorcycle, regardless of whether the body looks like a vespa or whatever.

And yeah 8k is just a weeeee bit high, do yourself a favor and pick up a used 500cc with about 3k miles for about as many dollars. Heck, if it's mpg you're after get a 150, I have one and I consistently get around 65mpg.

A used 500 with 3k miles for $8k? That's also really high. You could buy a used SV650 for $3.5-$4k.

BTW-I rode Saturday and averaged 57.7mpg with my SV650. Typical stop and go city riding gets me 45mpg though.


SV650 is a great beginners bike too.. I always recommend that bike to people starting out..
( who always seem to want to opt for the GSXR)

Its tame enough to learn on, but not so much so that you grow out of it too quickly.

It's a great bike for experienced riders too. I know a number of experienced riders who own and ride this bike. I could handle a sport bike but I don't like the aggressive riding position.
 
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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: Miklebud
For 8G's you can get an amazing motorcycle...

Don't know how to ride one, and they seem harder to learn how to ride.

Why do you think a 650cc scooter is easier to ride than a motorcycle?

It is Automatic, and a scooter just looks safer and easier. Can't really explain why. Just looking it, makes it seem easier to turn and such.

The first thing you need to learn is how to "turn" a two wheeled vehicle at speed.

Easiest way to learn is find a hill and go down it on a bike to get speed, then lean to the left/right to learn how to turn.

And $8k on a scooter? Get a motorcycle or a cheaper scooter.
 

StrangeRanger

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$8K for a scooter? I've got some great swamp land for sale in AZ, interested?

Seriously, if you're gonna spend that kind of money get a real bike. A real bike is safer because it's bigger (easier for others to see you), has better/bigger brakes, handles much better (safer), weighs more (safer, especially since you mentioned highway driving) and you won't look like a weenie who just spent waaaaaaayyyyy too much on a "scooter".

And definitely take a course. A lot of states don't require it yet, but you will be glad you did. And wear a helmet. Because it's not a question of will you go down, but when. From personal experience I can tell you helmets save lives. Along w/ boots and proper clothing.
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lokiju

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Originally posted by: Miklebud
For 8G's you can get an amazing motorcycle...

For 8G's he could get a used higher MPG car that doesn't change if he can drive it depending on the weather.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
I think it would be harder. You sit in it like a chair.. Doesn't seem like you're firmly attached to it, or that it's as stable as a motorcycle.

scooters are a much different ride than a motorcycle. the position is way different, which changes your balance. the lean theory works for both however. there are motorcycle driving schools all over, my mom went thru the one here in tempe. she rides a harley tho, no wimpy scooter =P. scooters generally arent seen as safer or easier to ride, and personally ill take my cb750 motorcycle over any cc scooter, based on looks alone. the handling is way better on my bike, unless they have improved scooters immensely over the last 10 years. btw, when you finally learn how to ride that scooter and get the endorsement on your license, it will say "M - Motorcycle" not scooter. mine does.
 

matas

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scooters wheels are too small. You have to be careful on the turns.
Also If you fall, you will mess it all up.
 

Dirigible

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: Miklebud
For 8G's you can get an amazing motorcycle...

Don't know how to ride one, and they seem harder to learn how to ride.

Can you ride a bicycle?

Take the MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) course and get your license. That course is offered at local community colleges usually.

I think I can, I use to ride them all the time before I wen to college 6 years ago, but haven't been on one since. But they say it like learning how to walk, you never forget how.

Well, go ride a bicycle to get used to balancing and riding a two wheeled vehicle again. Then go take the motorcycle safety course if you're really serious about this. I'm not positive but I think you need a motorcycle license to operate a scooter or moped, most states consider it the same as a motorcycle.

If you take the MSF course it waives the DMV driving test for getting your motorcycle endorsement. Also, you'll be learning on small 150-250cc motorcycles with a clutch and manual transmission so at the very least you'll gain some experience with them to help you decide whether you want a motorcycle or a scooter.

I just bought a Suzuki SV650 about a month ago and I already have 700 miles on it (this is not my first bike BTW). It's funny, people say that this is a good first bike but I think it would probably be intimidating for the novice rider. It's plenty quick...quicker than most cars anyway. I've ridden bigger bikes but more power adds more weight and the SV650 is fast enough for me but light enough to be really fun on twisty roads.

Yes, definitely take an MSF class even if you're getting a scooter. Some of the skills taught (shifting) won't be applicable to scooters, but the driving skills will be. Plus, it's a good way to get the driving portion of your motorcycle licensing requirements done.

Practice on a bicycle might not be a bad idea.

As others have stated, a used motorcycle will be significantly cheaper.

And please please please wear protective gear while riding your scooter. Too many scooter riders don't. A scooter is just as dangerous as a motorcycle. You want to be protected if you go down.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: XZeroII
I just picked up a 150cc scooter. Works pretty well. I got 85mpg on my first fill up. Only does 55mph or so though, but that's all I need.
what specific scooter?

http://www.roketa.com/product/2610/0/2612.shtml

I paid $1,200 for it new. It's pretty cheaply made, but it works.

Do you have an Motorcycle license for it?

Yes.