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woolfe9998

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unless you need teleportation booths and they suck a lot of energy.

Yes, a teleportation booth at the other end being necessary would work even better.

Just make sure there isn't a fly in there when you port out!
 

fskimospy

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Yes, a teleportation booth at the other end being necessary would work even better.

Just make sure there isn't a fly in there when you port out!

It's hard to imagine teleportation tech that wouldn't require a booth at the other end. (then again, I guess we're talking magical tech to begin with). One thing that has always bothered me about it though is that if you're reassembled at the other end, is it still you? I mean it could be a perfect copy of you, but would your personal consciousness have been destroyed?

In some ways it would be irrelevant to the rest of society as the reconstructed person would have all the memories, etc, etc of the teleported person. It would clearly be a big deal to the consciousness that just got vaporized though.
 

randomrogue

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It's hard to imagine teleportation tech that wouldn't require a booth at the other end. (then again, I guess we're talking magical tech to begin with). One thing that has always bothered me about it though is that if you're reassembled at the other end, is it still you? I mean it could be a perfect copy of you, but would your personal consciousness have been destroyed?

In some ways it would be irrelevant to the rest of society as the reconstructed person would have all the memories, etc, etc of the teleported person. It would clearly be a big deal to the consciousness that just got vaporized though.

As it stands right now you would be destroyed and recreated. That's the going theory.
 

dank69

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It's hard to imagine teleportation tech that wouldn't require a booth at the other end. (then again, I guess we're talking magical tech to begin with). One thing that has always bothered me about it though is that if you're reassembled at the other end, is it still you? I mean it could be a perfect copy of you, but would your personal consciousness have been destroyed?

In some ways it would be irrelevant to the rest of society as the reconstructed person would have all the memories, etc, etc of the teleported person. It would clearly be a big deal to the consciousness that just got vaporized though.
That's always been the concern I have about the possibility of teleportation technology.
 

randomrogue

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That link is interesting. Do we know for certain that our memories are just stored quantum states? Memories can be fuzzy, fake, etc so I'm just not sure how that works.
 

sm625

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Not much would change with teleportation. Within a relatively short period of time, a criminal group would sieze control of the technology, and they would use it to destroy all the competitors so no one else could have it. Then life would continue pretty much as it has, except this group would be in control.
 

Paul98

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Memories, thoughts, feeling, and everything else in our body is nothing special. If you are able to exactly copy me all those things will be exactly the same.

But then again teleportation the way we normally think about it is not exactly what I would call something that we will see in a long time if ever. Quantum uncertainty, the amount of energy stored in an object, information storage, transfer,...

There are a lot of interesting things that we could see in our life times, or in the next that could change the world.
 

Paul98

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Mass produced organs and other "replacement parts" that when we want to use them we use our own cells so almost anything could be replaced. "Computer's" that works similar a brain. A way to stay young forever. Biological or technological implants or changes to dna that make humans better than natural, this could be increased strength, brain power, hearing, sight,...

Nuclear fusion as a power source.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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IP lawyers can't stop internet piracy. How are they going to stop, say, wrench "piracy" when all one needs is a 3D printer and a schematic of a given wrench?

How? Ok- your printer legally required to connect to the Internet for a one time encrypted file and is otherwise a brick. Oh you could crack the say 1024 bit encryption then try to reverse engineer things, but your printer reports back for a check and clearance file match before it will work.
 

dank69

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Memories, thoughts, feeling, and everything else in our body is nothing special. If you are able to exactly copy me all those things will be exactly the same.

But then again teleportation the way we normally think about it is not exactly what I would call something that we will see in a long time if ever. Quantum uncertainty, the amount of energy stored in an object, information storage, transfer,...

There are a lot of interesting things that we could see in our life times, or in the next that could change the world.
I don't see how our consciousness could be rebuilt. When I think teleporter, I think deconstructed and reconstructed at a new location. I would think that the first time you try that, "you" will be killed and a new "you" will be created elsewhere. To everyone else, you will seem exactly the same, but the original "you" will be dead.
 
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Vaux

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Well that would assume that your consciousness is a separate entity from yourself. There isn't an answer for that yet, but I am of the opinion that consciousness is just the sum of the parts of your brain being activated. There is no magic little soul or consciousness that floats away when you die like in cartoons.
 

Vaux

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There is one thing worth pointing out about teleporting in the manner that is displayed in the video, and that is that it would not necessarily need a subject to start from. All you would need is the technology to produce a human being. You are just telling it what human to produce.

So actually, you could tell the machine to build you a Kate Upton, and as long as her information is stored, or you would enter in the parameters of the person you want to build, and out walks Kate Upton.

Boy the fun I could have with a machine like that. Yeah I think you should add that to the list of things that would change the world immediately.
 

dank69

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Well that would assume that your consciousness is a separate entity from yourself. There isn't an answer for that yet, but I am of the opinion that consciousness is just the sum of the parts of your brain being activated. There is no magic little soul or consciousness that floats away when you die like in cartoons.
Well then, let me ask you this. Say I was copied instead of transported. Same process without destroying the original. Do I now feel like I inhabit two bodies?
 

Paul98

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I don't see how our consciousness could be rebuilt. When I think teleporter, I think deconstructed and reconstructed at a new location. I would think that the first time you try that, "you" will be killed and a new "you" will be created elsewhere. To everyone else, you will seem exactly the same, but the original "you" will be dead.

Your consciousness is nothing special, that comes from your brain. Why do you think that is any different than teleporting the rest of you? If you didn't teleport that you would be missing a lot of particles.
 

Vaux

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Well then, let me ask you this. Say I was copied instead of transported. Same process without destroying the original. Do I now feel like I inhabit two bodies?

I wouldn't think so, no. You would be totally independent. I would think you would never even know the other you exists if you didn't know beforehand.
 

Paul98

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Well then, let me ask you this. Say I was copied instead of transported. Same process without destroying the original. Do I now feel like I inhabit two bodies?

LOL, no there would just be two of you, who at the point of copy would have the exact same thoughts, memories, feelings,...
 

Paul98

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There is one thing worth pointing out about teleporting in the manner that is displayed in the video, and that is that it would not necessarily need a subject to start from. All you would need is the technology to produce a human being. You are just telling it what human to produce.

So actually, you could tell the machine to build you a Kate Upton, and as long as her information is stored, or you would enter in the parameters of the person you want to build, and out walks Kate Upton.

Boy the fun I could have with a machine like that. Yeah I think you should add that to the list of things that would change the world immediately.

LOL yeah, or if you wanted to wait for the future you could store your information for 100 years and then be reconstructed.

Though if you were going to do this you would need a massive amount of energy.
 

Murloc

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even if teleporting matter is impossible, what if sciences arrives to a point where everything about the brain is understood?
You could build a replacement body on location and implant the memories, then kill the other body. It's not time-effective nor cost-effective on earth, but planets light years away?
It could be a different take from the cryogenic stuff they use in sci-fi now (assuming space ships can't go over the speed of light, i.e. alien, riddick etc.). It would enable travel at the speed of light.
But yeah, freezing a person and sending it over as a wave might end badly if they don't receive it I guess. Unless they do that quantum physics instant communication thing they have in mass effect.
 

Sheep221

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The teleportation is very unreal and unpractical just is a time travel.

Teleportation is also something we are not capable of handling mentally, even today we have created technologies we don't yet fully understand how they work and how they in either bad or good way impact our lives, we created states, companies, organizations, laws, societies and more, but most of us are not capable to live the way required to comply with them.
Teleporting using teleporters(some sort of portal or fixed device where you just get in and be sent to the teleporter on the other side) would theoretically be possible, with you being rescanned, dismissed physically to particles and sent to the other side via computer network where you would be again compiled together. Unfortunately I don't think that so huge amount of energy and computation power would be cheaper than using vehicles and technically would be unpractical because you would be only able to travel to set amount of destinations and for the rest you still would have to walk or drive and probably had a vehicle already prepared at your destination.
The teleporting from anywhere to anywhere is more practical and could find use when traveling to outer space and probably not yet reached distances. Either any of the two types of teleporting would be devastating for society and removing vehicles, aircraft, watercraft and their associated structures would cause intervention to our lives we would not be able to cope with. It either would create so hectic life that we would not be able to process so many things in time manner shortened by teleporting, or it would create a lazy society which would (despite destroying millions of transportation jobs) cause most of us to be so lazy that we would not be going anywhere else beyond using teleporting.
I really hope and wish that teleporting will never be discovered and if yes, than not revealed to general public as it would destroy most of the life's problems and beauty of traveling.

The next thing is time travel, the only possible time travel is from present to future via stopping time for an individual by freezing or deeply hibernating him so he won't be aging and be woken up in distant future, technically to this person this long time will be felt like a few seconds. Something like entering some sort of time machine and traveling to any past or future reality by selecting year on a time axis is impossible. Because reality is not a movie with media player seek bar, what happens in the future is not yet created and what happened in the past is nowhere stored for later retrieval, so time travel is something I don't believe ever will exist.
 

Vaux

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There is no time machine or flux capacitor, but what you listed is not the only possible time travel. It most certainly is possible, theoretically.

As I already said, it is because of time dilation. Time travels slower for people moving fast. This is a fact. Time also travels slower for people near a gravitational object. This is a fact.

So, theoretically, if we set our watches to the same time, and you stayed on earth, and I took a voyage through space to say a planet 2 light years away at half the speed of light, and I come back, 8 years have passed for me. But for you here on earth, hundreds of years have passed. (I don't know the exact ratio). I just time traveled.

You see this type of time dilation with the gps satellites that orbit earth. The time on those satellites have to be constantly updated because time is traveling faster for them up there than it is for us down here.

It is not that far fetched.
 

Sheep221

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There is no time machine or flux capacitor, but what you listed is not the only possible time travel. It most certainly is possible, theoretically.

As I already said, it is because of time dilation. Time travels slower for people moving fast. This is a fact. Time also travels slower for people near a gravitational object. This is a fact.

So, theoretically, if we set our watches to the same time, and you stayed on earth, and I took a voyage through space to say a planet 2 light years away at half the speed of light, and I come back, 8 years have passed for me. But for you here on earth, hundreds of years have passed. (I don't know the exact ratio). I just time traveled.

You see this type of time dilation with the gps satellites that orbit earth. The time on those satellites have to be constantly updated because time is traveling faster for them up there than it is for us down here.

It is not that far fetched.
That again, only makes you older/younger than the others, you are not traveling to future or to the past, you are just aging faster or slower compared to rest, which is not a time travel, because you are not traveling in time(moving on time axis) you are just slowing/stopping, your internal clock.
even if teleporting matter is impossible, what if sciences arrives to a point where everything about the brain is understood?
You could build a replacement body on location and implant the memories, then kill the other body. It's not time-effective nor cost-effective on earth, but planets light years away?
It could be a different take from the cryogenic stuff they use in sci-fi now (assuming space ships can't go over the speed of light, i.e. alien, riddick etc.). It would enable travel at the speed of light.
But yeah, freezing a person and sending it over as a wave might end badly if they don't receive it I guess. Unless they do that quantum physics instant communication thing they have in mass effect.
Lol dude this is creepy
 

dank69

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Your consciousness is nothing special, that comes from your brain. Why do you think that is any different than teleporting the rest of you? If you didn't teleport that you would be missing a lot of particles.
I think I am pretty special... ;)

I wouldn't think so, no. You would be totally independent. I would think you would never even know the other you exists if you didn't know beforehand.
Then the point I was making stands, for both of you. You would not enjoy the result of the transportation. You would die (cease to exist) and someone else would be created at your destination. It is simple logic. If creating a copy of yourself doesn't cause you to be in control of your copy when the original is not destroyed, there is no reason to believe you will be in control of your copy when the original IS destroyed. It will be a new person that just thinks it is you.
 
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Dr. Zaus

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That again, only makes you older/younger than the others, you are not traveling to future or to the past, you are just aging faster or slower compared to rest, which is not a time travel, because you are not traveling in time(moving on time axis) you are just slowing/stopping, your internal clock.

Along with everything else with you... that's the definition of time travel into the future.