Things like this...

[sammyunltd]

Linky

I mean, can it be worse...

By the way, this is a link to a Hillary Clinton forum. 100% of the users are Democrats-turned-Republicans since Hillary's defeat and are just showing pure hatred towards Obama, and not even recognizing that their own candidate (HRC) played a dirty game that lead to her downfall. Like HRC should have been handed the VP slot automatically.

They are even proclaiming that she was "abused" by not being chosen as Obama's VP and want the head of the Democratic Party.

As a result, McCain and Palin are their saviors. They post all their "quotes" and "facts" on the Obama Camp from FOX... how credible is that?! I mean, this is so wrong. Are you Democrat or not? Even if your candidate is not taken, you should still support your party. This just shows that Americans are only voting for the candidate and not the party/ideas/projects.

This explains why this country is so deep in ****....

How wrong is all that?!

 

[herm0016]

i would rather people vote for the candidate and their ideas/convictions than blindly vote for a party. what is wrong with voting for the person you want to vote for, not just the party you think you should be voting for?

 

[nakedfrog]

Blind partisanship is tearing the country apart. You can see evidence of it in this very forum. People feel like the other party is the enemy, and an egregious foe at that.
I followed those forums earlier this year, they have always hated Obama. Immediately after she withdrew, they started figuring out ways to click Obama ads and such to drain his funds.

 

[CPA]

Venezuala is that away ----->

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Blind partisanship is tearing the country apart. You can see evidence of it in this very forum. People feel like the other party is the enemy, and an egregious foe at that.

I agree, people have decided that it's ok to replace critical thinging with polarized hatred. It certainly is easier, replacing effortful intellect with knee-jerk emotion, so as long as they can rationalize that it's right, well, less work for them...

 

[JS80]

Good we don't want you.

 

[jonks]

Look again. And fyi, it's folly to base your impressions of reality on internet forum rants.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109...linton-Supporters.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- The Democratic convention appears to have helped solidify support for Barack Obama among former Hillary Clinton supporters, with the percent saying they will vote for Obama in November moving from 70% pre-convention to 81% after the convention, and the percent certain to vote for Obama jumping from 47% to 65%.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: sammyunltd

Are you Democrat or not? Even if your candidate is not taken, you should still support your party. This just shows that Americans are only voting for the candidate and not the party/ideas/projects.

It seems that you are a slave to a political party. Let the chains go off and be free. Vote for the person/ideas/projects.

 

[JSt0rm]

I bet these are viral plants ala nvidia. Makes sense the republicans would work this way.

 

[sammyunltd]

Okay, well, then vote for the individual. I mean, what exactly motivates their turnaround from the Dems to the GOP? Program? Ideas? Projects? No. Blind hatred. That was the point I was trying to make.

When I said "party", I was pretty much concluding that BHO and HRC had similar ideas/projects. Both are DEFINITELY compatible. McCain and Clinton, on the other hand, are NOT.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

All glory to the party.... What is this, Communist China? Good Lord, I've never seen such a senseless complaint.

Now if you had said that Dems switching their vote from Hillary to McCain was retarded because McCain and Hillary differ on many, many issues, while Barack and Hillary have virtually identical voting records, I'd agree with you.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

OP, people like you are the problem. Vote for the candidate you think best suits your ideals and policies, don't blindly vote for a party.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Linky

I mean, can it be worse...

By the way, this is a link to a Hillary Clinton forum. 100% of the users are Democrats-turned-Republicans since Hillary's defeat and are just showing pure hatred towards Obama, and not even recognizing that their own candidate (HRC) played a dirty game that lead to her downfall. Like HRC should have been handed the VP slot automatically.

They are even proclaiming that she was "abused" by not being chosen as Obama's VP and want the head of the Democratic Party.

As a result, McCain and Palin are their saviors. They post all their "quotes" and "facts" on the Obama Camp from FOX... how credible is that?! I mean, this is so wrong. Are you Democrat or not? Even if your candidate is not taken, you should still support your party. This just shows that Americans are only voting for the candidate and not the party/ideas/projects.

This explains why this country is so deep in ****....

How wrong is all that?!

:roll:

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: JS80
Good we don't want you.

I'd trade JS80 for the OP, and toss in some cookies.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
All glory to the party.... What is this, Communist China? Good Lord, I've never seen such a senseless complaint.

Now if you had said that Dems switching their vote from Hillary to McCain was retarded because McCain and Hillary differ on many, many issues, while Barack and Hillary have virtually identical voting records, I'd agree with you.

That's what he said. As he clarified in the post before yours:

When I said "party", I was pretty much concluding that BHO and HRC had similar ideas/projects. Both are DEFINITELY compatible. McCain and Clinton, on the other hand, are NOT.

It makes a ton of sense to support the democratic party, with rare exceptions, for people who agree with its core agenda strongly over the republicans.

The bottom line is that the parties do have huge differences that greatly outweigh the inidividual differences between candidates nearly all the time.

'Party control' of a house of Congress - and the more the better with the problems of things like 'blue dog democrats' to counter - is a major issue where party > candidate.

The posts with phrases like 'slave to party' are frankly idiotic, and at best IMO naive.

This doesn't mean you endorse everything the party does, it simply means you have reached the view that one party is far better for the nation than the other.

That's a perfectly reasonable, ratinal view. Others are free to disagree; some people's polirticial views don't align so closely with one party, and they'll 'vote the candidate' more.

Many so-called 'centrists' are some of the most closed-minded voters around, who constantly visiously attack anyone who happens to agree with one 'side'.

There are people who 'blindly' vote for a party, and I'd agree that's bad as voting for anything blindly is. I'm referring to those who strongly agree with one party.

 

[sammyunltd]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
All glory to the party.... What is this, Communist China? Good Lord, I've never seen such a senseless complaint.

Now if you had said that Dems switching their vote from Hillary to McCain was retarded because McCain and Hillary differ on many, many issues, while Barack and Hillary have virtually identical voting records, I'd agree with you.

That is what I actually said.

I apologize if I did not make myself clear enough.

I just want to point out the fact that many Hillary fans are just PLAIN IDIOTS. The term Obamabot exist but in no way are these fans as brainwashed as those on this website. On this forum, a parent even unleashed his fury (metaphorically) against his/her daughter who supports Obama. What kind of parent does that?

Voting blindly for a party is bad, and I don't do that. However, there are lots of similarities between Clinton and Obama's programs, so that, at the end of the day, it would not make THAT big of a difference to vote for either of those two, since, normally, you should vote for ideas and programs, not for gender/candidate. Apparently, those fans over there prove me wrong.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
OP, people like you are the problem. Vote for the candidate you think best suits your ideals and policies, don't blindly vote for a party.

I'm wondering if it isn't people like you who are the problem. The parties represent ideals and policies that are clear, defined and concrete and if people voted on those we'd have representative government. Millions of clowns were convinced by cleaver minds that he best represented them but he turned out to be a disaster. You, of course, probably have special abilities and see through all that.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
OP, people like you are the problem. Vote for the candidate you think best suits your ideals and policies, don't blindly vote for a party.

I'm wondering if it isn't people like you who are the problem. The parties represent ideals and policies that are clear, defined and concrete and if people voted on those we'd have representative government. Millions of clowns were convinced by cleaver minds that he best represented them but he turned out to be a disaster. You, of course, probably have special abilities and see through all that.

You contradict yourself. First the parties are ideals, and policies that are clear, defined, and concrete. Then they are clowns who are convinced by clever minds who tricked them into a disaster. One line they?re salvation to you, the next line they are horrific. Which is it Moonbeam?

Oh, but we already know Obama is your hero. So when you describe any positive trait it is for your own party, while serving all the negative traits as the Republican Party. That right there is, as I quote:

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Blind partisanship is tearing the country apart. You can see evidence of it in this very forum. People feel like the other party is the enemy, and an egregious foe at that.

So there you go Moonie, you are the problem.

 

[sammyunltd]

Cindy's thrilled! I love, love, love this!! We are going to kick Obama's butt all the way back to Kenya!!!!!!

WTF.

She nailed it bigtime. Seriously. No wonder the Dems have been slandering her 24/7.

Triple WTF.

Palin Power is awesome! I can see why John McCain chose her.

WHAT?

Seriously, this is ALL COMING FROM HILLARY fans...

 

[Franz316]

That forum is not large at all, I wouldn't worry about it too much

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: JS80
Good we don't want you.

I'd trade JS80 for the OP, and toss in some cookies.

Good thing this country isn't a communist dictatorship where you could make that trade.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Linky

I mean, can it be worse...

By the way, this is a link to a Hillary Clinton forum. 100% of the users are Democrats-turned-Republicans since Hillary's defeat and are just showing pure hatred towards Obama, and not even recognizing that their own candidate (HRC) played a dirty game that lead to her downfall. Like HRC should have been handed the VP slot automatically.

They are even proclaiming that she was "abused" by not being chosen as Obama's VP and want the head of the Democratic Party.

As a result, McCain and Palin are their saviors. They post all their "quotes" and "facts" on the Obama Camp from FOX... how credible is that?! I mean, this is so wrong. Are you Democrat or not? Even if your candidate is not taken, you should still support your party. This just shows that Americans are only voting for the candidate and not the party/ideas/projects.

This explains why this country is so deep in ****....

How wrong is all that?!

What's wrong is that you are saying people can't have their opinion and must believe the same thing you believe in. Well maybe you DO have to steer clear of the USA as freedom of speech is something this country values.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
OP, people like you are the problem. Vote for the candidate you think best suits your ideals and policies, don't blindly vote for a party.

I'm wondering if it isn't people like you who are the problem. The parties represent ideals and policies that are clear, defined and concrete and if people voted on those we'd have representative government. Millions of clowns were convinced by cleaver minds that he best represented them but he turned out to be a disaster. You, of course, probably have special abilities and see through all that.

Right, like how the republican party represent the ideals of small government, fiscal conservatism and a conservative foreign policy? Sorry, but you're just plain wrong here. Both parties are vulnerable to takeovers from special interest groups and powerful lobbies in the same way as the American Republican party has been hijacked by the religious right and neo-conservatives.

 

[jpeyton]

Hillary Clinton Forum is one big GOP circle jerk; avoid it like the plague. You can't scroll more than 2 lines without reading "Nobama!", "PUMA!", or some other ridiculous drivel.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
OP, people like you are the problem. Vote for the candidate you think best suits your ideals and policies, don't blindly vote for a party.

I'm wondering if it isn't people like you who are the problem. The parties represent ideals and policies that are clear, defined and concrete and if people voted on those we'd have representative government. Millions of clowns were convinced by cleaver minds that he best represented them but he turned out to be a disaster. You, of course, probably have special abilities and see through all that.

Right, like how the republican party represent the ideals of small government, fiscal conservatism and a conservative foreign policy? Sorry, but you're just plain wrong here. Both parties are vulnerable to takeovers from special interest groups and powerful lobbies in the same way as the American Republican party has been hijacked by the religious right and neo-conservatives.

Well then if you vote for the Republican or the candidate who is Republican you get screwed either way, so obviously the only alternative is to vote Democrat, no? Or has it been taken over too?