Thin and light tablet PC

coolVariable

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I currently have a Dell Latitude x300 (which is less than 4 pounds) and I would ideally like to get a tablet just as small and light but a lot faster and with a better screen, since this will be my main system. If I were not interested in getting a tablet, I would probably get a Dell Latitude D420 ... but I believe that I would benefit from the additional tablet functionality.

The Gateway e155c (or c120x), the Lenovo x60/x61 tablet, the Fujitsu T4220 and the Asus R1F probably come closest to this (although I wish they were all smaller/lighter with an external optical drive like the Dell x300).

The benefit of the Gateway is the dual use screen touchscreen/digitizer in my opinion. And the metal case can be a big plus.

I have a great dislike for laptops/tablets without a touchpad and I doubt the tablet functionality can forego the touchpad, so the Lenovo x60 - which otherwise would fit my ideal tablet best - has that strike against it.
I also played around with a brand new x60 (non tablet) that a coworker just bought (against my advice) and it confirmed my dislike for the brand although I have to laud the tech specs on the inside, since they are closest to what I want. And don't get me started on the design ... ugly, ugly, ugly!

The Asus R1F seems faster than the Gateway but the same weight . Very nice design. The plastic casing is ... not ideal but my Dell was plastic too. The biggest problem is the max RAM limit at 2GB ... that seems very limiting since laptop RAM has been dropping fast. And of course no multitouch ...

The Fujitsu T4220 is nice because it will be based on the Santa Rosa plattform. But it doesn't have the multitouch screen, the placement of the pen seems awkward and I really dislike the white coloring (I will use this baby a lot and I can already see the palm rest looking really ugly from abuse ... even with a dark case the palm rest does not look pretty after 1-2 years).

My dream specs are:
- 12 inch screen (good for outdoor use) - dual touchscreen/digitizer
- convertible tablet
- external optical drive (I probably wouldn't even get it since I have an external USB2 DVD Writer)
- less than 4 lbs.
- aluminum/metal exterior
- at least up to 4GB of RAM (min. 2 slots)
- SD Card slot (why not also an internal SD or CF slot to use for as a cheap readyboost?)
- nice design ... I like the gateway and the hp ... the Lenovo design is horrible and ugly.
- fast CPU and GPU (I game very little but it is frustrating to see that almost all modern games would not run on my curent laptop)

I really can't understand why there are no (or very few) true thin and light convertible tablets.

Recap:

Gateway e155c: ($1662)
Pros: available now, aluminum case, multitouch, one of the brightest screens available, beautiful design
Cons: not exactly thin and light (4.3lbs), appears slow in comparison to the others

Lenovo x60: ($2095)
Pros: available now, one of the fastest this gen centrino tablets, multitouch, solid case, lightest (3.7lbs)
Cons: pointerstick (no touchpad), ugly design

Lenovo x61: ($ ... $2100+??)
Pros: Santa Rosa, multitouch, solid case, lightest (3.7lbs)
Cons: not available until July, pointerstick, ugly design

Asus R1F:
Pros: Speed, available now, nice design
Cons: not thin and light (4.3lbs), a little too big with 13" screen, only up to 2GB of RAM??

Fujitsu T4220
Pros: Speed, Santa Rosa
Con: not available until june/july, weight 4.5lbs., color (white = smudged wristpad), placement of stylus, no multitouch


Any thoughts?
Am I missing any other thin and light tablets that come close to my ideal specs?
Any other tablets with a ~12 inch screen that have a multitouch screen (touch and digitizer)?
Should I wait until more Santa Rosa tablets come out and hope for a miracle that a company will finally built a tablet with my dream specs?
Will Santa Rosa and the GMA x3100 allow me to play more games compared to the GMA950 in most of the current tablets? Is it worth waiting for the Santa Rosa tablets?
 

coolVariable

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No tablet users on AT?

No laptop users that might give feedback aleast on the performance of the above?
 

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Brand ASUS
Model R1F

CPU
CPU Type Intel Core 2 Duo
CPU Speed T5500 (1.66GHz) - T7600(2.33GHz)
Chipset
Chipset Intel 945GM
CPU
CPU FSB 667MHz
CPU L2 Cache 4MB
Display
Screen Size 13.3"
LCD Features Color Shine
Display Type Wide XGA
Resolution 1280 x 800
Graphics
GPU/VPU Intel GMA950
Video Memory Shared system memory
Hard Drive
HD Capacity 120GB
HD RPM 5400rpm
Memory
Memory Speed DDR2 667
Max Memory Supported 2GB
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type DVD Super Multi
Optical Drive Interface Integrated
Communications
Modem v.92 56K
LAN 10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN
Bluetooth Yes
IRDA
Ports
Card Slot 1 x Express Card
USB 3
Firewire
VGA 1
S-Video 1
Audio Ports 1 x Headphone-out jack (SPDIF)
1 x Microphone-in jack
Built in Mic Yes
Input Device
Keyboard Standard (Spill proof)
Touchpad Yes
Supplemental Drive
Card Reader MMC/SD/Mini-SD/XD/Memory Stick/MS Pro/MS-Duo/MS-Pro-Duo
Power
Battery 6-cell lithium ion
Battery
Battery Life
Physical spec
Dimensions 12.5" x 9.1" x 1.4"
Weight 4.2 lbs. - 4.5lbs
Features
Fingerprint Reader Yes
Other Travel drawer supporting 2nd SATA HDD
Trusted Platform Module

PCMARK 05 2,724 (1.66 GHz)
Pi to 2 Million Digits 1m 20s (1.66)
3DMark 05 448 (1.83)
 

coolVariable

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Brand Fujitsu
Model T4220
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CPU
CPU Type Intel Core 2 Duo
CPU Speed T7500(2.2GHz)
Chipset
Chipset Intel 945GM
CPU
CPU FSB 800MHz
CPU L2 Cache 4MB
Display
Screen Size 12.1"
LCD Features 160-degree wide viewing angle display
Display Type XGA
Resolution 1024 x 768
Graphics
GPU/VPU Intel GMA X3100
Video Memory Shared system memory
Hard Drive
HD Capacity 60GB
HD RPM 5400rpm
Memory
Memory Speed DDR2 667
Max Memory Supported 4GB
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type DVD/CD-RW Combo
Optical Drive Interface Integrated
Communications
Modem V.90 56K
LAN 10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN
Bluetooth Yes
IRDA Yes
Ports
Card Slot 1 x Type I/II PC Card Slot / SmartCard
USB 3
Firewire 0
VGA 1
S-Video 0
Audio Ports Yes

Built in Mic
Input Device
Keyboard 82-key keyboard
Touchpad Touchpad with left, right, and scroll buttons
Supplemental Drive
Card Reader SD, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO
Power
Battery Autosensing 100-240V AC, 80W, supplying 19V DC, 3.15A
Battery Lithium ion (6-cell, 10.8V, 5200 mAh), 56.16 WHr)
Battery Life 3 hrs.
Physical spec
Dimensions 11.5" x 9.6" x 1.3-1.7"
Weight 4.3 lbs.
Features
Fingerprint Reader Yes
Other SmartCard slot
TPM 1.2

PCMARK 05 4,259
Pi to 2 Million Digits
3DMark 05 1,743 (3DMark 03)
 

coolVariable

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Brand Gateway
Model e155-c

CPU
CPU Type Intel Core 2 Duo
CPU Speed U7500 (1.06 GHz)
Chipset
Chipset Intel 945GM
CPU
CPU FSB 533MHz
CPU L2 Cache 2MB
Display
Screen Size 12.1"
LCD Features Multitouch, 200 nits
Display Type Wide XGA
Resolution 1280 x 800
Graphics
GPU/VPU Intel GMA950
Video Memory Up to 128MB shared memory (up to 224MB shared memory ??)
Hard Drive
HD Capacity 120GB
HD RPM 5400rpm
Memory
Memory Speed DDR2 667
Max Memory Supported 4GB
Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type DVD/CD-RW Combo
Optical Drive Interface Integrated
Communications
Modem v.92 56K
LAN 10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN
Bluetooth Yes
IRDA No
Ports
Card Slot Type II PC card bus slot
USB 2
Firewire
VGA 1
S-Video 0
Audio Ports Yes
Yes
Built in Mic Yes
Input Device
Keyboard Standard
Touchpad Touchpad with two buttons
Supplemental Drive
Card Reader "MMC, SD, MS, MSP, Mini SD and RS-MMC
"
Power
Battery 4 cell LiIon
Battery 6 cell LiIon
Battery Life 2 hours + w. 4 cell
Physical spec
Dimensions 11.9" (W) x 9.9"(D) x 1.17(H)
Weight 4.5 - 5.07 lbs
Features
Fingerprint Reader Yes
Other
TPM 1.2

PCMARK 05 2,205
Pi to 2 Million Digits 1m 58s
3DMark 05 500
 

aCynic2

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Originally posted by: coolVariable
No tablet users on AT?

No laptop users that might give feedback aleast on the performance of the above?

Let me ask you, how do you justify your need for a tablet PC? What do you get out of it that you won't get from a laptop + logitech io2 pen or writing tablet?

Regardless, I saw this recommended to someone in another forum:

http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/index.asp
 

coolVariable

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Originally posted by: jkresh
Toshiba m400

Too big and heavy.

Man Dell just took the wraps off their Tablet PC ... the Latitude XT.
What a sweeeeet system. If only it came out sometime in the next 2 months.