They raise them right in Texas

MrSquished

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16 year old coal roller - so we know this is some spawn of MAGAT trash, coal rolling is such a regressive stupid thing that personifies the MAGAT persona - runs over cyclists seriously injuring multiple riders, trying to roll coal on them. How he is not arrested yet is nuts. Kid should spend time in juvie for sure.

Cyclists on my riding forums often complain of coal rollers, often almost hitting them. Republican filth in the south mostly do this shit. It's just a right wing anti-clean environmental stance. Wastes of oxygen.


WALLER, Texas - A group of Houston area cyclists are hospitalized after getting hit by a pickup truck in Waller County Saturday morning.
According the Waller County Sheriff, 6 cyclists were hit by the vehicle along old 290, roughly 2 miles west of Waller. In total, four of the cyclists had to be taken to area hospitals, including 2 by helicopter...

...Roughly 75 miles into their training ride, Ferrell says a black diesel pickup truck slowed down near him and accelerated to blow smoke in his lane. Moments later, the pickup trick tried doing the same thing to other cyclists riding ahead of Ferrell.
"The reason he couldn’t stop is because he was accelerating to blow more diesel fuel on these cyclists," said Ferrell. "He ended up hitting 3 people before his brakes even started."
The driver of the pickup truck has been identified as a 16-year-old boy. According to Ferrell, the teen stayed at the scene and met with police after hitting the cyclists.
 
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Pohemi

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To hell with putting him in Juvie. He's 16 and driving, he can be charged as an adult for vehicular assault, at the very least.

He may not have meant to actually hit the cyclists, but he wound up doing it by trying to be a little prick real life troll. His mistake cost those cyclists, it should damn well cost him.

He's not been arrested on charges because shithole state with shithead authorities.

Fuck that kid and his parents, I know what kind of trash they are. Fuck the local cops/sheriff/DA too for not having the kid in custody already.
 
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16 year old coal roller - so we know this is some spawn of MAGAT trash, coal rolling is such a regressive stupid thing that personifies the MAGAT persona - runs over cyclists seriously injuring multiple riders, trying to roll coal on them. How he is not arrested yet is nuts. Kid should spend time in juvie for ……
The truth is always some third way. The truth involves the resolution of opposites at a higher level of understanding. The truth is always 180 degrees from where we look. The truth is concealed by unconscious assumptions as to what’s good is.

What does any of that mean when it comes to coal rolling?

For one thing it means that you are the cause of coal rolling.

See if you can understand how that is true. To help you out let me offer a clue: How do people respond to being held in contempt?
 

SteveGrabowski

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I had one of these coal rolling bitches blow his smoke at me a few days ago when I honked at him for running a stop sign in front of me. Part of me wishes I would have just kept going and t-boned him instead. What an asshole, rolling coal at me for not smashing into the driver side of his truck and sending him to the ICU/grave.
 

Moonbeam

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I had one of these coal rolling bitches blow his smoke at me a few days ago when I honked at him for running a stop sign in front of me. Part of me wishes I would have just kept going and t-boned him instead. What an asshole, rolling coal at me for not smashing into the driver side of his truck and sending him to the ICU/grave.
Why do people become enraged at others when they are seen to be obviously at fault for something?
 
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These antisocial idiots, more so than the environment, are the reason CA banned ECU tuning.
From what I read, the kid should be charged with the TX equivalent of reckless driving resulting in injury, and then have his license suspended at least until he turns 18. Driving is a privilege, not a right.
 

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These antisocial idiots, more so than the environment, are the reason CA banned ECU tuning.
From what I read, the kid should be charged with the TX equivalent of reckless driving resulting in injury, and then have his license suspended at least until he turns 18. Driving is a privilege, not a right.
I'd say attempted murder.

Of course you'd have to check to see if Texas has recently passed any legislation that protects vehicle operators who run over political protesters. There's a Texas-sized argument that some shitbag driving a rolling-coal vehicle was actually just counter-protesting a bunch of cyclists.
 
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MrSquished

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Would a MAGAt do that?
I have made no implication that all MAGATS leave the scenes of accidents, and don't believe that in the slightest. That's a problem across the board.

But what I do know is the Venn diagram of coal rollers and MAGATS is a perfect circle. Not all MAGATS are coal rollers, but all coal rollers are MAGATS
 
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Because there were a few dozen witnesses, and he's driving an incredibly obvious vehicle?
That is an assumption you make without interior access to the youth’s brain.

You may be right but you don’t actually know. I would regard it arrogant to assume my assumptions are infallible to the degree I would feel comfortable passing judgment on another’s life.

The alternative would be to have to eat any hope of satisfying our personal rage at the expense of others. Only a liberal full of compassion can do that. I’ll let you know when I can do that. All I can do so far is live as if in chains and hope I too don’t snap.
 

Pohemi

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With regard to my post above how do you explain that he didn’t flee the scene? Why didn’t the ‘worthless little swine’ run?
Because there were a few dozen witnesses, and he's driving an incredibly obvious vehicle?
Yeah, witnesses was going to be my reply, and fear after the fact. He at least was smart enough to realize he couldn't just drive away.
I'd say attempted murder.
I think they'd have a hard time showing intent on that. It WAS an 'accident' in that he wasn't intending to hit them as far as we understand or assume at this point, but it was his stupidity and recklessness that led to it. Cause and effect, but he wasn't attempting to murder them, just blow diesel smoke in their faces.
Not all MAGATS are coal rollers, but all coal rollers are MAGATS
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Moonbeam

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I have made no implication that all MAGATS leave the scenes of accidents, and don't believe that in the slightest. That's a problem across the board.

But what I do know is the Venn diagram of coal rollers and MAGATS is a perfect circle. Not all MAGATS are coal rollers, but all coal rollers are MAGATS
Yes, members of a group for whom you have contempt as do most normal most of gentility. We live in a world that competes for respect and turn to alternatives when met with contempt. So you made them how they are because you internalized your own self contempt. Now you are going to see I’m right because my words are going to cause you to imagine I am treating you with disrespect. But actually I am just like you, also full of contempt. I know who the real enemy is. He’s me.
 
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rommelrommel

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It's an interesting legal argument, is the fact that he was trying to do one kind of crime make the accidental assault culpable as assault?

If I swing at a person with a bat, whiff, and accidentally forearm smash them I think I've still assaulted them. If I try to spray them with a noxious substance and run them over in the process, same?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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That is an assumption you make without interior access to the youth’s brain.

You may be right but you don’t actually know. I would regard it arrogant to assume my assumptions are infallible to the degree I would feel comfortable passing judgment on another’s life.

The alternative would be to have to eat any hope of satisfying our personal rage at the expense of others. Only a liberal full of compassion can do that. I’ll let you know when I can do that. All I can do so far is live as if in chains and hope I too don’t snap.
I have interior access to my own youth's brain, which is a reasonable approximation. Don't get me wrong, I'm not the fire and brimstone type generally speaking, and I don't seek to damn the child for his actions. Just answering the question posited.
 

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It's an interesting legal argument, is the fact that he was trying to do one kind of crime make the accidental assault culpable as assault?

If I swing at a person with a bat, whiff, and accidentally forearm smash them I think I've still assaulted them. If I try to spray them with a noxious substance and run them over in the process, same?
Assault is generally assault, regardless of what you were trying to do when you assaulted them. Law's funny like that.
 

shortylickens

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Yeah this is not an "interesting legal argument" at all.
Our nations laws have long held you are accountable for the outcome of your actions, not what you were attempting to do.
Thats like, first year law school stuff. And yes, first year law students debate it all the time. the courts not as much. But again, given this was Texas I bet some lawyer makes a genuine argument the kid should not be held accountable either because if his skin color, or his mindset at the time.
 
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rommelrommel

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No, assault hinges on intent rather heavily.

Running someone over by accident is not an assault. Does his intent to blow smoke at them (which appears to likely be disorderly conduct in Texas) transfer to the (presumably) unrelated running over? He's liable for their injuries regardless, but he's only assaulted them if he's found to have had intent to do so.
 

Indus

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As of Saturday evening, the driver of the pickup truck had not been arrested.

Wow. Just wow!
 

woolfe9998

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No, assault hinges on intent rather heavily.

Running someone over by accident is not an assault. Does his intent to blow smoke at them (which appears to likely be disorderly conduct in Texas) transfer to the (presumably) unrelated running over? He's liable for their injuries regardless, but he's only assaulted them if he's found to have had intent to do so.

Varies by state, but generally battery (a better term here than assault) requires either intent to do harm or recklessness (a high degree of negligence.)
 

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No, assault hinges on intent rather heavily.

Running someone over by accident is not an assault. Does his intent to blow smoke at them (which appears to likely be disorderly conduct in Texas) transfer to the (presumably) unrelated running over? He's liable for their injuries regardless, but he's only assaulted them if he's found to have had intent to do so.
2nd degree assault includes recklessness with a dangerous object with callous indifference to human life that leads to physical harm. Intent to cause harm isn't needed. Though this varies from state to state. Texas uses reckless behaviour without intent to harm but that ultimately results in harm as part of it's 2nd degree assault definition .
 
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