They got Eric Frein!

[soulcougher73]

I'm sick? Okay, what should we do? Specifically.

It was a joke. I think they should have shot him when they found him or hang him on the court house steps after the trial. Along with any other murders that take lives (outside of defense or accidental)

 

[Mai72]

I agree, but I have no interest in being cruel. If he's going to be allowed to live, he has to be treated humanely.

The thing is that is how solitary confinement is carried out today. You get zero interaction. No TV, no movies, nothing. Maybe a crossword puzzle but that's about it. The guards don't even talk to you. You're locked in a cell 23 out of 24 hours.

The effects of someone who spends a few months in solitary are bad. Imagine if you spent years in solitary. Inmates have gone nuts. They hallucinate. They go insane.

 

[Blackjack200]

It was a joke. I think they should have shot him when they found him or hang him on the court house steps after the trial. Along with any other murders that take lives (outside of defense or accidental)

Sorry, sarcasm meter broken.

 

[zanejohnson]

that pic of a jail cell doesn't look like a jail cell at all......looks more like a college dorm..


this is what jail cells actually look like:

 

[Darwin333]

What's to talk about? Glad they got him, finally.

But I'm not so sure on the death penalty part.

IMO the thing that should be talked about but isn't is the completely unconstitutional and over the top response of the police to the shooting. Also it isn't rather odd that the killing of a normal innocent person doesn't illicit even a fraction of the response as to the killing/shooting of only police officers?

 

[zanejohnson]

but he'll more than likely NOT be in segregation, so he'll be in something more like this:


not shown is the toilet/sink combo in the corner (it would be just like the one in the seg cell)

in there with 7 other alpha males, all trying to be the most alpha

 

[MongGrel]

Haven't been following it too closely, but thought I read they cuffed him with the dead troopers personal handcuffs.

*edit* NM, it was in the link.

He's pretty much toast I'd imagine.

 

[zanejohnson]

The thing is that is how solitary confinement is carried out today. You get zero interaction. No TV, no movies, nothing. Maybe a crossword puzzle but that's about it. The guards don't even talk to you. You're locked in a cell 23 out of 24 hours.

The effects of someone who spends a few months in solitary are bad. Imagine if you spent years in solitary. Inmates have gone nuts. They hallucinate. They go insane.

this is true, although alot of times, you'll have a shower in your cell, so it's more like 24 hours in the cell, out of the cell once a week for church service (they have to allow that)

 

[zanejohnson]

alot of facilities are moving away from this now, but they used to use 25 and 50 man dorms as well:

 

[Double Trouble]

I agree with eskimospy on two counts. I don't think killing a cop is any more heinous than killing anyone else. I also don't think he'll get executed since PA has effectively (if not officially) gotten rid of the death penalty, but he definitely deserves it, just like countless others who have committed cold blooded murder deserve it. I have no problem with the death penalty, but I don't think he'll get executed.

 

[Darwin333]

While I think this guy is a horrendous human being I hope they don't. First, I don't agree with the death penalty regardless, but more importantly who cares if he shot a cop vs. shooting anyone else? I guarantee you that there have been far more heinous murders carried out in PA over the last 40 years that didn't get the death penalty. I don't like the idea that a cop's life is worth more than anyone else's.

Allow me to show you just how much more a cops life is worth than everyone else's:

Halloween trick or treating is being canceled in a Pennsylvania town where hundreds of heavily-armed police officers in camouflage are searching for the man suspected of ambushing two Pennsylvania state troopers, killing one.
Barrett Township in the state's northeastern woods cited the manhunt for survivalist Eric Frein in deciding to cancel trick or treating and postpone the town’s Oct. 26 Halloween Parade, WGAL-News 8 reported Friday.
The station said police who would normally provide security for the two popular events are consumed with the search now entering its second month.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/1...n-trick-or-treating-ban-in/?intcmp=latestnews

CANADENSIS, Pa. – *In northeastern Pennsylvania, where deer season is both a rite of passage and a key to the local economy, the only hunt taking place is the one for a survivalist and suspected cop killer believed to be hiding in the woods and toying with police.
Ever since Eric Frein allegedly gunned down State Police Cpl. Bryon Dickson and wounded another trooper before disappearing into the rugged Pocono Mountain woods surrounding his hometown of Canadensis on Sept. 12, the rural region has been inundated by police and, for a time, media. But as the manhunt nears the one-month mark, the press has largely moved on and the state has canceled hunting season in seven area townships. Hunters can still track their game elsewhere, but the businesses that depend on sportsmen, from taxidermists to bed-and-breakfast proprietors, are cursing the killer police describe as “pure evil.”
“It’s become commonplace to see armed vehicles driving down the road with troops inside,” said Gayle Horowitz, co-owner of The Brookview Manor Inn, in Canadensis, adding that the night air echoes with the constant sound of helicopters.
Between hunting season and fall foliage, October is typically the Brookview’s busiest month of the year. But the restaurant is empty and plenty of vacancies exist now that a killer is believed to be prowling the surrounding woods. Looking out at the vast forest surrounding the 10-room, Colonial-style country inn, she lamented how one of the tiny, rural community’s own sons could have turned everything upside-down.
“We’re a sleepy little town,” she said. “We don’t lock doors.”
As an avid hunter and owner of*Hap's Taxidermy*in Blakeslee, Pa., Vince Volz has found both his leisure and livelihood crimped by the suspension of deer and bear hunting.*
"I guess I have to accept the fact that they must really feel strong that they have a good chance of catching this guy," Volz said. "That he's still there, still in the area."
With hotels, restaurants, campgrounds and taxidermists all feeling the pinch, the one industry that seems to be thriving is speculation about Frein.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/0...n-cop-killing-puts-deer-season-local-economy/

The search for Frein — now in its 12th full day — has resulted in frequent unannounced and indefinite roadblocks in Canadensis. Some residents have resorted to sleeping in their cars due to entire neighborhoods being cordoned off.
Troopers issued a “shelter-in-place” order last week that kept some residents from leaving their homes for more than a day, while others who weren’t already at home could not return. Residents said the directive left elderly residents unattended and pets unfed, as well as lost wages for workers who couldn’t reach their job sites.
Adam Christmann said he has been barred from his home at least twice since the search began. He said he was frustrated as he waited at a roadblock near his home Monday afternoon.
“We don’t know when we can go home, or you don’t know if you can get out,” Christmann said. “Families are getting separated.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/2...l-through-pa-woods-in-hunt-for-suspected-cop/

A cops life is worth so much more than yours that the death of a single cop can and has resulted in many people not even being able to go home or to work. It's worth shutting down entire sections of a town with those inside trapped and those outside locked out regardless of need or right to go friggen home. I have never heard of anything like this over someone who killed exactly one person.

Frankly, by the statements made by the police he never sounded like a danger to the public at all, he was only a danger to police officers. Might I add that police officers voluntarily took a job they well knew beforehand could and would put their lives at risk.

 

[zanejohnson]

Allow me to show you just how much more a cops life is worth than everyone else's:


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/1...n-trick-or-treating-ban-in/?intcmp=latestnews






http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/0...n-cop-killing-puts-deer-season-local-economy/




http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/2...l-through-pa-woods-in-hunt-for-suspected-cop/

A cops life is worth so much more than yours that the death of a single cop can and has resulted in many people not even being able to go home or to work. It's worth shutting down entire sections of a town with those inside trapped and those outside locked out regardless of need or right to go friggen home. I have never heard of anything like this over someone who killed exactly one person.

Frankly, by the statements made by the police he never sounded like a danger to the public at all, he was only a danger to police officers. Might I add that police officers voluntarily took a job they well knew beforehand could and would put their lives at risk.

wow. fuck that.

how ridiculous...


i really hate to be this way...but i'm glad he got killed.

 

[Darwin333]

+1.

Solitary confinement for life. Same lousy tasteless food every day, every meal. Nothing to read, nothing to see, nothing to hear but your own voice and the voice of your victim(s). Much worse than death IMO.

Yeah, fuck that constitution thingy and all that shit. Let's do something even worse, by your own admission, than we are putting the guy in there for!

 

[NoStateofMind]

Yeah, fuck that constitution thingy and all that shit. Let's do something even worse, by your own admission, than we are putting the guy in there for!

A lonesome voice of reason against the deafening shrill of emotional knee jerk reactions

 

[NoStateofMind]

What evidence have we this is the man? From the article it never claims there was eyewitness saw this specific man but say the purp fled into the woods. Unless I missed something they could be two separate individuals. We are led to believe this man is some 'cop-hating-military-thug-hell-bent-on-killing-all-pigs' but I'd like to hear it from him and some people who know him before making that judgment.

 

[soulcougher73]

Yeah, fuck that constitution thingy and all that shit. Let's do something even worse, by your own admission, than we are putting the guy in there for!

Yeah fuck the guy that denied some else's right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Let's not care about the victims, but instead about the murders.

 

[The Merg]

His car, his guns, his diary describing the shooting, his DNA, and he fled into the Poconos.

That's just to start. I'm sure more will come out.

- Merg

 

[Darwin333]

Yeah fuck the guy that denied some else's right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Let's not care about the victims, but instead about the murders.

That has absolutely nothing to do with my comment nor does it have a single thing to do with his constitutional rights. Some of us strive to be better than the worst of our society, unfortunately there are still people like you that strive to be worse.

But hey, like I said fuck it. Why even bother with a trial or making sure that he is actually guilty, right? To hell with that due process shit too. Which of our other rights do you wish to do away with when those in power deem it worthy? I mean I totally trust our politicians with that power, they would never ever abuse it as all of our politicians are completely stand up, freedom loving, good and moral (torture can't possibly be immoral right) people, right?

 

[Texashiker]

That it is cruel and unusual punishment and should not be allowed in a decent civilization. Does the constitution mean anything to anybody?

You are starting to sound like a conservative.

As for eric, there is a sickness in our society that needs to be addressed. Why are so many young men committing acts of violence?

Eric and others like him need help.

 

[positivedoppler]

While I think this guy is a horrendous human being I hope they don't. First, I don't agree with the death penalty regardless, but more importantly who cares if he shot a cop vs. shooting anyone else? I guarantee you that there have been far more heinous murders carried out in PA over the last 40 years that didn't get the death penalty. I don't like the idea that a cop's life is worth more than anyone else's.

well said.

 

[Lepton87]

Why solitary confinement and not general populace, he didn't shoot people at random, he has an ax to grind with police officers. Why would he be dangerous to other prisoners who aren't cops? I've been abused and falsely incriminated by the way of fabricating evidence by the police so I kind of know how that guy feels about them.

 

[allisolm]

What evidence have we this is the man? From the article it never claims there was eyewitness saw this specific man but say the purp fled into the woods. Unless I missed something they could be two separate individuals. We are led to believe this man is some 'cop-hating-military-thug-hell-bent-on-killing-all-pigs' but I'd like to hear it from him and some people who know him before making that judgment.

Well, one could say you're 'hearing it from him' with his handwritten notes:

"Fri Sept 12th got a shot around 11pm and took it. He droped [sic]....I was surprised at how quick. I took a follow up shot on his head/kneck neck area.

"He was still and quiet after.....Another cop approached the one I just shot. As he went to kneel I took a shot at him and jumped in the door. His legs were visible and still."

 

[Strk]

I agree, this is absolutely cold-blooded, premeditated murder. My argument was that there have been lots of cold-blooded, premeditated murders in PA over the last 40 years, many much worse than this. It shouldn't matter if the victim was a cop though.

That's the part that confuses me. I think he should get life in prison because I think everyone guilty of first degree murder should get it. I just don't see how that cop's life is more valuable than any other murder victim.

 

[CitizenKain]

Yeah fuck the guy that denied some else's right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. Let's not care about the victims, but instead about the murders.

soulcougher continues to be confused about how society works.

 

[Nebor]

There are a lot of bloodthirsty, knee-jerking people in this thread.