They finally tried to do something I honestly thought they would never do: Write and pass an abortion bill.

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Authoritarians like you are the reason I support a woman’s right to an abortion. If just one aborted fetus prevented another traitor like you from being born, it would have been worth it.

It’s also hilarious to hear you reference the constitution when it’s obvious to everyone you’ve never read it and are only repeating talking points you’ve heard in your bubble.
Another science denier.
 
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SmCaudata

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Donate............ SURE! Can i pick the ones i donate to?
Nope. If you are a match for some random kid it's forced donation. We can say forced bone marrow donation then, since it's not permanent. We have a national registry and when you are a match they come to your door, Meaning of Life style. Just for kicks, then you have to financially support the kid for the next 18 years. Sounds reasonable, right?
 

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Another science denier.
Yet again, science does not say what you're claiming it says.
And no one is actually stupid enough to believe that the anti-abortion crowd actually gives a flying fuck about the fetus. The entirety of their agenda is about "slut shaming" and otherwise punishing women for having sex without their approval. As any one of them will freely tell you.
 
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Vic

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Guys, you're letting someone who has said he wants certain children killed drive a narrative that he actually cares about fetuses. Of course he doesn't.

Anyway, the big reason women get elective abortions is because they lack a viable and supportive partner with which to raise the child. That's actual science. And it's obvious too. I mean, except out of medical necessity, how often do happy couples get abortions? Almost never, of course.
With that in mind, and given the fact that it takes 2 to tango, why does the anti-abortion crowd fixate exclusively on the women? That too is obvious.
 

shortylickens

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Guys, you're letting someone who has said he wants certain children killed drive a narrative that he actually cares about fetuses. Of course he doesn't.

Anyway, the big reason women get elective abortions is because they lack a viable and supportive partner with which to raise the child. That's actual science. And it's obvious too. I mean, except out of medical necessity, how often do happy couples get abortions? Almost never, of course.
With that in mind, and given the fact that it takes 2 to tango, why does the anti-abortion crowd fixate exclusively on the women? That too is obvious.
The most intelligent conservative I ever heard was Patricia Heaton.

She said when a woman feels like getting an abortion it means society has failed that woman.
 
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Sunburn74

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I mean there's no reason why the anti-abortion crowd doesn't push things like easy access to birth control and pregnancy prevention education if they really were all about stopping abortion. But its all a sham act to seem holier than thou and to get political votes rather than try to actually move society forward. If I ran this country, birth control would be in the water and you'd have to go to your doctor to get a pill to get pregnant!
 
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Nope. If you are a match for some random kid it's forced donation. We can say forced bone marrow donation then, since it's not permanent. We have a national registry and when you are a match they come to your door, Meaning of Life style. Just for kicks, then you have to financially support the kid for the next 18 years. Sounds reasonable, right?
I was thinking a different type of donation. Only if i can pick who i donate to, so no thanks.
 

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Does life begin at conception? Science says it does, so it's a pretty settled question from a scientific standpoint. DNA of the child is not the same as the mother, it's a different life.Which would mean the 14th Amendment would protect their lives from conception on.
I'm glad to see the proponents of abortion on demand, abortion up to actual birth and abortion paid for by taxpayers actually trying to pass a law making it legal.
Your consistency in not understanding science is amazing.

Life started a billion years ago.

If you mean human procreation then the sperm and egg are alive before fertilization and the fertilized egg is alive afterwards. While all born people started as a fertilized egg not all fertilized eggs will become a person. Some will become nothing and others may become multiple fetuses.

Hell if your trying to have kids in your 40’s your chance to abort is basically equivalent to taking RU486. Except of course the woman taking RU486 only aborts one fetus while the pro-life couple in their 40’s will keep aborting fetuses until one makes it all the way.
 

Vic

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Your consistency in not understanding science is amazing.

Life started a billion years ago.

If you mean human procreation then the sperm and egg are alive before fertilization and the fertilized egg is alive afterwards. While all born people started as a fertilized egg not all fertilized eggs will become a person. Some will become nothing and others may become multiple fetuses.

Hell if your trying to have kids in your 40’s your chance to abort is basically equivalent to taking RU486. Except of course the woman taking RU486 only aborts one fetus while the pro-life couple in their 40’s will keep aborting fetuses until one makes it all the way.
Let's not even get into how many times a woman who had miscarriage has been falsely accused of having an abortion.
 
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shortylickens

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I saw an article in a national geographic some time ago. Current theory is the earth is not 4 billion years old, its 5 billion years old.
And life did not start 1 billion years ago, it started 1.5 billion years ago.
Theres no new eras. Most of the eras we already know about are just a little bit longer. And some life forms, like dinosaurs, had a slightly longer run that we previously thought.
 

SmCaudata

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I was thinking a different type of donation. Only if i can pick who i donate to, so no thanks.
Exactly. Forcing sometime to sacrifice their body for nine months followed by 18 years of raising the child is no different than forcing anyone to donate marrow to save a random kid and subsequently care for them.

As others have said, if you were prolife you'd support many social programs that help kids and reduce people's need for abortions.

You clearly are just a sad incel who feels the need to show your power over women.
 
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shortylickens

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this article is clearly biased and uses a bunch of loaded words, but it makes a point about abortion laws in some states.
It seems they get around the constitutionality test by having laws only enforced thru civil courts, not criminal ones. They dont have state agents acting on the abortion ban, which would immediately get it taken up to the supreme court. Instead they help and encourage private citizens to sue doctors, and in a civil court that would immediately put them on the defensive in addition to making it difficult or impossible to bring a case all the way up to the supreme court.


 

HomerJS

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Does life begin at conception? Science says it does, so it's a pretty settled question from a scientific standpoint. DNA of the child is not the same as the mother, it's a different life.Which would mean the 14th Amendment would protect their lives from conception on.
I'm glad to see the proponents of abortion on demand, abortion up to actual birth and abortion paid for by taxpayers actually trying to pass a law making it legal.
Show us the publication where the plurality of biologists and/or medical doctors agree life begins at conception. Not your usual pulling stuff out of your ass or repeating Trump and posting it.
 

shortylickens

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You guys need to stop responding to Taj. He's a typical brainwashed nutjob. Theres literally millions of them in America and we've already proven they do not listen to reason. We need another tactic and actually engaging them is basically the same as saying their arguments have merit.
They do not. Stop encouraging them.