They don't call it Airbus for a reason....

[Insane3D]

I recently flew on on an Embraer ERJ-170 through US Airways, and it was one of the nicest jets I've been on..although it was a bit smaller than a lot of the larger commercial jets. The seats were much more spaced apart from front to back, and I was actually able to open my 17" WS laptop all the way...first plane I'd been able to do that.

I did a little research on it and it's a newer plane...went into service around 2002-2003.

Nice jet...2 seats x 2 seats...

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: Random Variable
There is nothing fundamentally inferior about commerical airplanes manufactured by Airbus.

There is a couple...Airbus tends to overestimate performance. Boeing tends to underrate specs.
The business practices of Airbus makes little to be desired.

 

[giantpinkbunnyhead]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead

Originally posted by: Random Variable
There is nothing fundamentally inferior about commerical airplanes manufactured by Airbus.

Well, aside from the fact that many of their planes don't have a manual fuel dump valve, I agree. It's not a concern for me, though I do wonder why they chose not to provide one.

737s don't either.

No kidding? Damn. Guess the builders don't worry much about overweight landings. Do you, by chance, how MTOW compares to MLW on a typical 737? Admittedly the only planes I know much about are the 727's in our fleet. And with our models the MTOW exceeds MLW by nearly 28000 pounds. Our planes have dump valves, and we've had to use them too. I think the idea of not having them just hits me as odd.

 

[giantpinkbunnyhead]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Random Variable
There is nothing fundamentally inferior about commerical airplanes manufactured by Airbus.

I just cant get over the fear that at some point during the flight a Scarebus will show its true colors and heritage and decide to surrender to gravity.

If you'll excuse me now, we're going out for lunch. Ameri-burgers and Freedom Fries. 😉

Huh? Planes surrender to gravity all the time. All of them. Do you know of any planes that are stuck in the sky someplace? 😕

 

[Random Variable]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
I recently flew on on an Embraer ERJ-170 through US Airways, and it was one of the nicest jets I've been on..although it was a bit smaller than a lot of the larger commercial jets. The seats were much more spaced apart from front to back, and I was actually able to open my 17" WS laptop all the way...first plane I'd been able to do that.

I did a little research on it and it's a newer plane...went into service around 2002-2003.

Nice jet...2 seats x 2 seats...

Embraer is a Brazilian company, but you probably already knew that.

 

[wetcat007]

I flew from Minneapolis to Amsterdam on a DC10 which sucked, flew back on an Airbus A330, this is one of their newer planes I think but it was much better than the DC10 that's for sure.

 

[Fern]

They don't call it Airbus for a reason....

Hmm.. judging by your post I think you meant "they don't call it Airbus for nothing" or "they do call it Airbus for a reason".

But yeah, I agree. Execpt I find pretty much all planes/commercial flights like a greyhound with wings.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Random Variable
There is nothing fundamentally inferior about commerical airplanes manufactured by Airbus.

I just cant get over the fear that at some point during the flight a Scarebus will show its true colors and heritage and decide to surrender to gravity.

If you'll excuse me now, we're going out for lunch. Ameri-burgers and Freedom Fries. 😉

Huh? Planes surrender to gravity all the time. All of them. Do you know of any planes that are stuck in the sky someplace? 😕

No they dont. Planes call a peace treaty with gravity, land and then violate the treaty by going up in the air again.
Gravity is just stupid and keeps falling for the same trick over and over.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Random Variable
There is nothing fundamentally inferior about commerical airplanes manufactured by Airbus.

I just cant get over the fear that at some point during the flight a Scarebus will show its true colors and heritage and decide to surrender to gravity.

If you'll excuse me now, we're going out for lunch. Ameri-burgers and Freedom Fries. 😉

Only 15% of the craft would do that.

 

[Paddington]

What difference does the make of the airplane make to you?

What you experience on this inside, like the interior, the seats, the people, the service, has nothing to do with the manufacturer of the aircraft.

 

[Dunbar]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Not at all. I just don't see anyone coming up with a non-partisan reason for not flying a certain aircraft make. I fly loads. I flew on an Airbus this morning. I flew Boeing a couple of months ago. I fly short and long haul regularly. I just don't see a major difference between the types. Except that the MD-80 types are a bit small and noisey at the back.

I agree, the difference in the economy seats of just about every domestic airline are pretty small. I get economy plus access on United which is up to 5" more legroom. At my height (5'9") it doesn't make much of a difference. Some people complain about lack of in-flight entertainment which I don't care about (I bring my Ipod.) Certainly the attitude of the employees and on-time performance can affect my opinion of an airline. But as far as the seats, on a narrowbody there ain't much difference.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: Paddington
What difference does the make of the airplane make to you?

What you experience on this inside, like the interior, the seats, the people, the service, has nothing to do with the manufacturer of the aircraft.

lol, that's what I was thinking.

another thing just hit my mind..

So that's why it's called AIRBUS! it's a bus in the air!! OHHhhh!!!! lol. air..BUS. ahh ic! 🙂

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: Paddington
What difference does the make of the airplane make to you?

What you experience on this inside, like the interior, the seats, the people, the service, has nothing to do with the manufacturer of the aircraft.

lol, that's what I was thinking.

another thing just hit my mind..

So that's why it's called AIRBUS! it's a bus in the air!! OHHhhh!!!! lol. air..BUS. ahh ic! 🙂

:slaps forehead:

 

[sandorski]

When I call a Cab I insist on it being Mopar. GM's and Fords are just cramped and smelly!! :|

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Legendary

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I'm not calling you on that, or can you not read as well as reason?

Back pedal back pedal......

Originally posted by: loup garou

Originally posted by: Specop 007
If it aint Boeing, I aint going. No Scarebus for me, thank you.

:roll:
Would you like some Freedom Fries as a snack on your flight?

I call it Scarebus, you immediately ask if I want "Freedom Fries".

What is the correlation between Scarebus and "Freedom Fries", because I dont see it.

Airbus is a French company. I think he was trying to imply that you were being a jingoist by flatly refusing Airbus, assuming you hated it because it was French.

15% of it is.

 

[jai6638]

I've flown Airbus on international flights and its been a great experience so far.. No complaints...

 

[funboy6942]

You going? We fly you there. We got you covered like a jimmy hat.

 

[klod]

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No kidding? Damn. Guess the builders don't worry much about overweight landings. Do you, by chance, how MTOW compares to MLW on a typical 737? Admittedly the only planes I know much about are the 727's in our fleet. And with our models the MTOW exceeds MLW by nearly 28000 pounds. Our planes have dump valves, and we've had to use them too. I think the idea of not having them just hits me as odd.
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737-800 737-900ER
MTOW:79,010 kg(174,200lb) 85,140 kg(187,700lb)
MLW: 66,360 kg(146,300lb) 71,350 kg(157,300lb)
MZFW: 62,730 kg(138,300lb) 67,720 kg(149,300lb)