Thermaltake Volcano 9 - My experience and preliminary conclusions

SaveYourself

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I'm a happy camper. Micro X-Press here in Indianapolis (http://www.emicrox.com) had the Volcano 9 HSFs for $19. That's a lot lower than the $25 that Directron.com was charging before they sold out of them. I got mine last Friday. Since it's only about a 30-45 minute drive to the Micro X-Press office and shipping center on Indianapolis's northwest side, I opted for the local pick-up option. Saves me about $5 shipping, and the service is pretty good. You go into the office and order what you want, and then you drive around to the back of the building where a Russian guy with a thick accent and big beard gives you what you need. Then you sign the reciept and you're good to go. All in all, not a bad deal for the quality of parts you can get there. They are a partner with Seagate, so I plan to look into getting twin 80-gig Barracuda IV's for Christmas from my folks.

First Impressions ------

Most of the reviews on the internet show the heatsink and fan arriving separately. Mine came all in one box, with a picture of an anime fireman boy on the front with a water hose and big nozzle. The instructions were printed on glossy paper, and were basically the same as those that are on the Thermaltake web site. I hooked up the speed-adjusting potentiometer and hooked wires into my 12-volt wall wart that I use for testing. I started the fan on its lowest setting. I was thinking, "this is pretty quiet." I slowly adjusted the speed, and soon the fan was really moving along. I was like, "this is cool, that's probably the most airflow anyone will ever need." Then I found that I could keep turning the knob, and by the time I had the fan at full honk, papers and things were blowing around on my floor (where I was working). I was like, "Wow, why would anyone need this much cooling except just to show off?" This unit can handle any socket-A processor you throw at it, just about. I experimented around with it for a while and found that removing the grille helps stop added high-frequency whissshing of the blades. I removed the grille and set it aside.

My CPU is an AMD Duron 1GHz. I have finally achieved the proper level of overkill to be worthy of the term ?computer enthusiast?. Hence my signature.

Installation ------

The unit came with a little baggie with thermal gel, and the thermal probe, and a little square of thermal adhesive. I removed the motherboard from the case. I strongly recommend this: WHENEVER YOU ARE WORKING WITH THE CPU?S HEATSINK, REMOVE THE MOTHERBOARD and set it on a flat, level, hard surface. I then pulled off my old HSF, an AVC Tundra. It?s not that the AVC Tundra wasn?t cooling well enough. It?s just that almost every slim 60x60x10mm fan I?ve come in contact with creates a whistling noise from the high number of blades and the high rotating speeds. This whistling sound was boring into my brain as I sat for hours in front of my computer, and I knew a fan with slower rotational speed and fewer blades would better accommodate my noise preferences. The AVC Tundra?s fan ran at 4500 RPM and pushed about 20 CFM. I will probably use the Tundra for a later project, but for now I removed it and repackaged it in its original box (which I held on to) and set it aside. I wanted to use the fan?s thermal control capabilities, but in order to use the thermal probe in an effective way, you need to attach it to the bottom of the CPU. In the pictures on the Thermaltake website, the processor being used has some stuff on its underside. My Duron doesn?t have any of these objects on the bottom of the CPU so there was a clear surface for the probe so installation should be easy. Before installing the heatsink probe make sure you don?t have it connected to the fan, It will be a lot easier to work with and you can connect it back up later.
It was the thermal adhesive that had me confounded. The thermal adhesive is packaged between two anti-stick slips of paper. One of these slips is yellow and the other is white. I wondered for a while whether the thermal adhesive was on the white part. So I cut out enough of the white piece to fit on the back of the probe and still have area to stick to the , and discovered the ?adhesive? was actually the clear white square of stuff hanging onto my scissors. I stuck that to the back of the thermal probe and trimmed around the thermal probe. I found I had to do a lot of trimming to get the thermal probe in a position that the heat shrink tubing would not keep the processor from dropping into the socket. I found I had to do quite a bit of trimming of the adhesive until it was just around the underside of the thermal probe and not sticking outside the shape of the yellow film covering the thermistor. The wires to the probe are thin so they slip between pins on the bottom of the processor, but as thin as the wires are, they prevent the processor from sitting quite evenly. I had to make sure the processor was level in the socket before lowering the ZIF lever so as not to crush the thermal probe or create an uneven contact point which could result in a crushed core. The probe fit quite nicely by the time I was done, and I let it be until I was ready to work with it.
I then applied some of the included thermal goop with my finger in some plastic wrap. They say thermal goop used to have mercury in it. Nowadays it?s silicon, but I?m taking no chances. I guess my mom?s caution about toxic stuff sort of rubbed off on me. I don?t want any of that stuff in my body. I?m enough of a mad-hatter as it is. I applied a tiny bit to the die of the processor and a dime-sized area of goop to the copper insert on the bottom of the heatsink. The thermal goop was good and thick in consistency. It was a lot better than most thermal greases I?ve come in contact with. Another big plus of the V9?s design is the clip that attaches to all 3 socket posts. The clip is pretty sturdy, I?ll say. It almost goes so far as to be a core-crusher. Being that I just don?t have money to spend on a new processor, I want to keep my stuff nice, so letting the core be crushed was not an option for me, so I was ginger about it, and I nearly reached the limit of the force I was willing to put on it. But the clip grabbed, and held tightly. The condition of high force was made even worse by the fact that the processor was sitting a little higher in the socket than it was designed to. But no damage occurred because I worked slow and was careful.
The V9 towers over my motherboard. I have an Asus A7V266-E, and the V9 fits well in the space allotted to it, but you should take out the memory so you have a better view of what you are working with. Once I had the HSF attached to the socket, I plugged the thermal probe wire into the fan. One might see the thin wires to the thermal probe and cry foul, because the wires look too small to carry enough power to the fan without burning out, but the V9 monitors its temperature and speed-adjust sensors via a microprocessor, rather than by sending the entire current through the resistive device. I reinstalled the motherboard onto the backplane of the case and reattached everything back to my motherboard. Then I plugged in the V9?s power. I wasn?t sure the motherboard headers could handle the power for the fan, so I used the 3- to 4-pin connector instead. The 3- to 4-pin power connector is a necessity for the CPU fan because it allows RPM monitoring by breaking off the RPM signal wire to a 3-pin connector and running the two power wires to the 4-pin pass-through power connector. Once everything was in place, I booted the system into the BIOS and watched the fan speed start out at 1400rpm and rise slowly to about 2800. I was impressed at the very low noise that the fan put out cooling the limited amount of heat put out by my little Duron, which was what I had hoped to achieve in the first place. The fan does not run faster than 3500 RPM and the processor is kept at a temperature of 43 degrees C throughout almost any task. Your results may vary with processor and installation but I?m quite happy with my Thermaltake Volcano 9. I think this is a sound buy for any AMD processor above 1GHz and its thermal sensor and low noise make it easy on the ears as well, while never leaving oyur processor without the cooling capability it needs.
 

OulOat

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I had the V9 for about a month now, and it's okay. When I first got it it was silent, but it seems now the fan is making more noise, even on the lowest manual setting. Ugh, and I bought this fan so my comp would be silent.
 

cheap

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Same here, had my V9 for maybe 3 weeks. Bottom of the heatsink was pretty rough, the whole bottom was like those old giant records, all in circles. Grooves there were probably as big as 0.5mm. Lapped it. Took the grill off too and put in some rubber washers taken off nails which Home Depot sells (only thing I could find) in between fan and heatsink. Had to saw off a tiny bit off one corner (maybe 1/8) so it wouldn't get in a way of one of capacitors on my EPOX 8k9a board, no big deal. Thermal diode is a scam. The one I got is long, more than an inch, no way it will fit into a tiny 3/8x3/8 space underneath my XP 1600+. Besides, if you look at the chart, they made fan speed to temp ratio too high. Do you really need your fan to work at 3500rpm when your CPU temperatures are in 40s? No, that's just a lot of extra noise. I run my on 1.75 ghz xp1600 (it's overclocked) at only about 2600rpm and am planning on lowering it even more. Have never seen my CPU reach higher than 55 degrees (socket temperature) at full load and idles between 48 degrees when set to 1.75ghz. If I kick it back to 1.4ghz it idels way down in 30s. I use manual controller knob and was a little pissde off about it. Sh!tty job on the knob and something would get lose every couple minutes and fan would kick into full 5000rpm. 80mm fan all of a sudden kicking into 5000rpm makes you feel like your box is about to take off like a hellicopter. It kept doing it for a while until I squeezed the knob a little bit with pliers and hopefully that keeps things in contact there pretty well. So far no fan speed mess ups in couple weeks. Although I think my fan speed did go up by about a 100rpm or so. Overall I'm not satisfied with my Volcano 9. For $30, it has a sh!tty copper bottom insert whith .5mm grooves, unusable extra long thermal sensor which is basically a scam, glitchy control knob, and one of the worst instructions/manuals I've ever seen. What you see on their web site is what you get, that's it. I still wouldn't have known how to attach that sensor to the bottom if you haven't told me that paper thing has a sticky thing in between, they never said anything about it in the instructions and I thought it maybe was a thermal pad if you don't want to use their thermal goop. For $30 there's gotta be something of a better quality out there. Also, at 2500 rpm, it's nowhere near silent, it's actually quite loud, but it could be just from blades pushing air, fan itself doesn't seem to make any pitched noise. When the hell will we see 120mm coolers so we could all use some really silent fans. Damn, you could probably get away with running those 120mm monsters at 1000rpm on top of CPU heatsink.
 

SaveYourself

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I noticed a barely audible scuffing noise inside the fan motor on mine at 1300rpm. I think it's still there but it doesn't bother me when I have 4 Vantec Steaths going all at once (42CFM push-pull configuration) and the Enermax "Silent" 350-watter I have.

I also was able to get the thermal probe to fit in the square, but the wires make the whole processor sit up .5mm on the socket and I had to take extra care to see that it was level. It would have been a whole lot easier if I could mount the thermal probe on top of the processor and right next to the core. The interesting thing about the fan is with nothing attached the fan just runs at 5000RPM, so if the thermal diode should break the fan will start running fast so there's no lost cooling. This is really a smart idea on Thermaltake's part, so that there is security in the cooling.

I don't doubt the Everflow fan's ability to last a long time. The little tick should go away as the bearings "wear in" (as opposed to wearing out) and get more loose and frictionless. The Smart Fan 2 motor does seem to get quite warm as well, and this should fix itself as time goes by.
 

OulOat

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Actually, did you know you can bend the diode? I guess that's how they get it to fit. It even says so on their website. Also, you could just tape the diode to the bottom of the heatsink near the CPU core with the doublesided thermal tape that came with the package. I wished I waited till now to get it, so I can get the Coolmod. Damn that looks good.
 

wildewinds

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If you're happy with a Volcano 9, you'll be ECSTATIC with the Thermalright SLK-800.

I had the Volcano 9 for two weeks and was only getting adequate cooling when I turned the fan ALL the way up (REALLY loud). So I went out and bought the SLK-800, used the fan from the Volcano 9, turned it up just high enough so I could barely hear it over the case fans, and it was SIX DEGREES COOLER than the Volcano 9 at the fan's HIGHEST setting. When I turned the fan all the way up, it was 12 degrees cooler.

So... SLK-800 wins.