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Thermalright's LGA775 Bolt-thru Kit Question

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ya I did rotate them. That's the only way you can get them to actually click in. I'm sure their in right because when I finish I feel the heatsink and it feels pretty damn snug to me.
 
Originally posted by: emblem
ya I did rotate them. That's the only way you can get them to actually click in. I'm sure their in right because when I finish I feel the heatsink and it feels pretty damn snug to me.
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I'm sure we've gone over this in another thread but, did you use the stock thermal pad or apply your own thermal paste? Are you 100% sure you're at stock volts?
 
Same problem here. E6600 with Arctic Freezer way too hot.

CPU at 2.5 (it's factory clocked at 2.4, so it's a very well-behaved overclock)
Vcore at 1.26 (bios default is 1.25, so nothing out of the ordinary here).
Coretemp gives me 47 per core at idle.

Reseated the hs yesterday, used Arctic Silver paste just as the website says, heard the pushpins click (I even took the case backplate off to see if the pins were really well pushed under the mobo)... I just don't know what else to do.

They say we gotta give the paste some time, but I don't think any gain the paste maturity can give me will be significant, as the idle temps are already too high.

Is thermalright bolt-thru the next natural step, or am I missing something?
C1E? EIST? Fan control (mine is on auto, should it be on pwm?)?
 
emblem, can we get a case and fan layout, I didn't see it in the other thread but, I just scanned quickly.

BadOmen, can you take a shot of CPUz at idle, and whatever fan control program you happen to have, speedfan would be ideal.


Oh, and I've seen 5C drops form AS5 setting up but, pretty much always within 36 hours.
 
I replaced the pins on my AC7 with the bolt thru kit and the temps are lower.
I don't trust the original push pins to hold the heat sink tight enough.
Maybe if the processor remained horizontal, but with the heatsink in a tower and it being pulled down by gravity, I prefer the bolt thru.
 
Do you think the difference was significant?

Well, maybe I'll need something like that too... O brother, one more week waiting for Mr. Postman bring me computer goodies...
 
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
emblem, can we get a case and fan layout, I didn't see it in the other thread but, I just scanned quickly.

BadOmen, can you take a shot of CPUz at idle, and whatever fan control program you happen to have, speedfan would be ideal.


Oh, and I've seen 5C drops form AS5 setting up but, pretty much always within 36 hours.
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CM-690 with default case fans in default spot

back exhaust
front
side
 
Originally posted by: emblem
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
emblem, can we get a case and fan layout, I didn't see it in the other thread but, I just scanned quickly.

BadOmen, can you take a shot of CPUz at idle, and whatever fan control program you happen to have, speedfan would be ideal.


Oh, and I've seen 5C drops form AS5 setting up but, pretty much always within 36 hours.
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CM-690 with default case fans in default spot

back exhaust
front
side
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Thats definately enough airflow. I'd say it's definately bolt-thu time.

By side you do mean the lower one, no the upper one right? if not, move it.
 
Ok, DerwenArtos12, so here are the pictures:

First, cpu-z and everything it can show.
note: it shows a different fsb and multiplier than the one I set on the BIOS. Coretemp will prove that

http://i222.photobucket.com/al...tos/cpu-zatOmenRig.jpg

Then, SpeedFan and Coretemp
Note: Coretemp shows fsb and multiplier as I downclocked them in the bios.

http://i222.photobucket.com/al...tos/tempsatOmenRig.jpg

And just a little view of the rig as it is right now:

http://i222.photobucket.com/al...otos/Omenrig_mar08.jpg


Right now I have Photoshop open, plus Eset and Superspyware running. My temps are already 47 and 46 on each core.

So, that's my what I have.
What on Earth could be making this thing so hot?

EDITED: Now, with CPU usage around 50%, Speedfan says I have 56 and 54 degrees.
 
Watercooling seems to be getting more accessible, popular and, most important, discussed.

I wonder if I make a good candidate for it, or if there's just some piece of pure dumbness in my whole rig/configuration that is making everything so hot.
 
Originally posted by: SteelSix
Why don't you just leave it on, as is? You don't have to expose the adhesive, just leave the waxpaper thingy on it and use it that way. I've remounted mine like a half dozen times..
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that's actually a smart idea.

when i used the adhesive that came w/ my big typhoon and i tried to remove it later on to upgrade cpus, it actually took some of the circuits and transistors off w/ it!!!! Suffice to say i couldnt use my mobo anymore. I dont understand why they do BS like that when it doesnt need to be applied w/ such strong adhesive. i mean, the bolts hold it in place once the screws go through it anyways, right?
 
Originally posted by: BadOmen
Watercooling seems to be getting more accessible, popular and, most important, discussed.

I wonder if I make a good candidate for it, or if there's just some piece of pure dumbness in my whole rig/configuration that is making everything so hot.
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That fan on the side pannel right above the cpu hsf is actually going to be hurting temps, not helping them, it's counteracting the fan on the cpu heatsink, shut it off. Besides that, give that there are 4 80mm fans I think total airflow is your biggest culprit right now.
 
Actually there are two 80s, both on the side.
There is also a 120 at the front of the case and another 120 as the exhaust.
Well, there's a 120 inside the PSU too.

But you're right, that totally makes sense. So I just shut the side ones and the front 120mm. Besides, I downclocked the whole thing back to factory defaults.

Well, Speedfan is still giving me 45-44.

I started to think my room temperature could be involved. So I opened my window and door a while ago, and allowed the magnificent winter temperature to come in. It's minus something outside. Here, Speedfan keeps saying 46-44.

Rats... well, but thanks a lot for the tip, that was a smart move.:thumbsup:

Anything else I could try?
 
Originally posted by: BadOmen
Actually there are two 80s, both on the side.
There is also a 120 at the front of the case and another 120 as the exhaust.
Well, there's a 120 inside the PSU too.

But you're right, that totally makes sense. So I just shut the side ones and the front 120mm. Besides, I downclocked the whole thing back to factory defaults.

Well, Speedfan is still giving me 45-44.

I started to think my room temperature could be involved. So I opened my window and door a while ago, and allowed the magnificent winter temperature to come in. It's minus something outside. Here, Speedfan keeps saying 46-44.

Rats... well, but thanks a lot for the tip, that was a smart move.:thumbsup:

Anything else I could try?
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The lower side and front ones, you will definately want back on, it was just that side one right above the CPU HSF that was going to be harming flow. Try taking your side pannel off and see what happens to temps. if they don't change more than 2C then lay it on it's side and see if they go down.
 
I popped the side panel and the temps dropped exactly 2 degrees. I got 42 at idle.

Tonight I'll flip the whole rig and see. I understand that it must be done without the side panel on, right? Otherwise the hot air will be at the same place it has ever been.

By the way, I touched the memory sticks (I have 4 of them and they are very close to each other and very close to the hsf as well), and they were considerably hot. Could that be affecting the whole thing anyhow?

 
Originally posted by: BadOmen
I popped the side panel and the temps dropped exactly 2 degrees. I got 42 at idle.

Tonight I'll flip the whole rig and see. I understand that it must be done without the side panel on, right? Otherwise the hot air will be at the same place it has ever been.

By the way, I touched the memory sticks (I have 4 of them and they are very close to each other and very close to the hsf as well), and they were considerably hot. Could that be affecting the whole thing anyhow?
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shouldn't make too much of a difference. RAM doesn't put off that much heat.

Side panel off would be best for in it's side. Oh, and motherboard down. If I'm right, motherboard up could overheat your processor quick. laying it down will use gravity to hold your heatsink in place instead of leveraging it off one side of the cpu.
 
lol, the forum hasn't been telling me this thread has been updated for some reason.. Subscription failure!

Anyway I ended up mounting the Bolt Thru Kit with the wax paper on, I doubt it'd hurt anything. I can't really figure out if my temps are accurate or not though, as the E8400's are notorious for false temp readings. Realtemp seems to say I get 45C idle but that seems a little high.. maybe the bolts weren't as tight as I expected since my screwdriver wasn't long enough to get past the Scythe Ninja lol. It doesn't go above 60C under full Prime95/Orthos load though, so I dunno.

As far as recent discussion about fan placement, if you're cooling with air, you'll generally want to position your fans to be able to pull and push air through a somewhat specific path through your case to hit every component. Putting fans next to each other doing different things is generally bad as they disrupt the flow, as are empty side/top vents.

My P182 is running with no intake, but with an exhaust fan. I had to plug up the top vent with some foam to keep the exhaust fan from pulling air through that instead of the front of the case so the PC could cool.

Edit:
!@#$ typos.
 
Originally posted by: DarkRogue
lol, the forum hasn't been telling me this thread has been updated for some reason.. Subscription failure!

Anyway I ended up mounting the Bolt Thru Kit with the wax paper on, I doubt it'd hurt anything. I can't really figure out if my temps are accurate or not though, as the E8400's are notorious for false temp readings. Realtemp seems to say I get 45C idle but that seems a little high.. maybe the bolts weren't as tight as I expected since my screwdriver wasn't long enough to get past the Scythe Ninja lol. It doesn't go above 60C under full Prime95/Orthos load though, so I dunno.

As far as recent discussion about fan placement, if you're cooling with air, you'll generally want to position your fans to be able to pull and push air through a somewhat specific path through your case to hit every component. Putting fans next to each other doing different things is generally bad as they disrupt the flow, as are empty side/top vents.

My P182 is running with no intake, but with an exhaust fan. I had to plug up the top vent with some foam to keep the exhaust fan from pulling air through that instead of the front of the case so the PC could cool.

Edit:
!@#$ typos.
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Get a pair of angled needle nose in there and crank them down harder. if using the springs that came with the kit you can pretty much crank them down till they're a sleeve instead of a spring and be quite safe.
 
Yeah, I'm RMAing my PSU so in the downtime I'll buy/get a longer screwdriver and try to bolt it down more. At least for now I'm not running into any major problems with cooling.

I just installed my Accelero S1 last night as well, and that thing is amazing. I rewired the turbo module to run at 5v but the temp drop was still nuts, my new full load temp-OC'd- was the same as my stock idle temp. 58/79 -> 32/58 ... crazy. It's too bad I didn't have an extra heatsink lying around for the Voltage Regulators though.
 
Ok, so I tried the case on its side, panel open.

Result: got another degree. In the end, Speedfan read 40/40 at idle.

Therefore, wrapping it up:

Regular: 45-44
Side open: 42
Side open & horizontal case: 40

And that's it. That side fan is already off.
So, any conclusions?

Sorry about all the questions, but after staring at this case for so long, I cannot see problems anymore. I really need a second pair of eyes to point out what I`m missing. Like that stupid side fan blowing exactly on the hsf. Hmm, perhaps if that fan became a second exhaust......? Nah, I think it would steal from the hsf anyway, right? Sorry, just brainstorming.

Thanks, guys.
 
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