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There's dumb, and then there's this

I suppose it'd be possible for a person to at least grab onto something. The car might end up with some pretty decent speed by the time it'd finally stop. But that's only if there was a steep hill right around that corner. Otherwise, enjoy the bumpercar ride while it lasts.
It'd still be a good idea to push off from the car as best as you can - clear your squishy body away from the large, heavy metal thing.
Or just casually roll out, whichever.
 
MagnusTheBrewer said:
On what planet did the driver and her passenger think they'd be safer outside the car?
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Well, depends on your exit timing.

I'd rather be out of the car away from danger, than in a car that is about to have unknown damage done to it.

It just so happens that it is a tricky task to exit behind the vehicle's trajectory when it's sliding and spinning.

I'd also probably try the "go down with the ship" routine, because I'd ultimately be desperately trying to regain control up until the moment of impact(s).
 
The first rule of driving on ice is apparently to never, ever, no matter what, take your foot off the brake. 😛
 
Jeff7 said:
I suppose it'd be possible for a person to at least grab onto something. The car might end up with some pretty decent speed by the time it'd finally stop. But that's only if there was a steep hill right around that corner. Otherwise, enjoy the bumpercar ride while it lasts.
It'd still be a good idea to push off from the car as best as you can - clear your squishy body away from the large, heavy metal thing.
Or just casually roll out, whichever.
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Agreed, I think giving an earnest JUMP, from a full crouch, sounds like the best choice if escape if your decision. And watch the spin to determine when the car's position will be in your favor. It's not like it was spinning rapidly traveling at a high rate of speed - it was still moving very sedately.
 
I wonder what a self driving car would do in that situation? Get in a quadcopter and fly away? No. Well if those 2 numbskulls programmed it maybe.

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lmao. Why is it that people get out of the car when this happens? I see that a lot in videos like this. At that speed the worse thing that's going to happen is damage to the car and other cars, and looking like an idiot, and getting out of the car is not going to change that. 😛

Another issue too is people try to go faster than what the conditions allow for. If it's glare ice, you probably should not be doing more than a few km/h, and you should be going straight home, and staying there, if it's that bad.
 
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Red Squirrel said:
lmao. Why is it that people get out of the car when this happens? I see that a lot in videos like this. At that speed the worse thing that's going to happen is damage to the car and other cars, and looking like an idiot, and getting out of the car is not going to change that. 😛
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If it's approaching a steep hill and you recognize there is no chance of stopping the vehicle or guiding it to crash before the steeper decline, I'd reckon escape is a better proposition as opposed to building up a lot more momentum.

Bodily injury does not need highway speeds - if the car has a chance to go from crawl to 20-30mph with who knows what waiting for you down there... yeah, I might jump out too. Split second decision making though, so who knows... if I see a possible out that involves controlling the vehicle and putting it somewhere safe, I'll probably be trying that first.
And it might just look far more dangerous to be on foot out there... in those pileup videos, I wouldn't be trying to bail.
 
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destrekor said:
Well, depends on your exit timing.

I'd rather be out of the car away from danger, than in a car that is about to have unknown damage done to it.

It just so happens that it is a tricky task to exit behind the vehicle's trajectory when it's sliding and spinning.

I'd also probably try the "go down with the ship" routine, because I'd ultimately be desperately trying to regain control up until the moment of impact(s).
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Cars are designed with crumple zones, seat belts and, more modern ones, airbags. The safest place is in the car.
 
zerocool84 said:
I've never driven in snow but why any of them thought it'd be good to gun it on any slick surface baffles me.
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None of the cars in those videos was gunning it. All it takes is ice and gravity, no throttle required. If you've never driven in snow you can't possibly understand what it's like to go from a road with normal traction to one when you have absolutely no control over acceleration, throttle or steering in the space of a couple of feet. That's all it takes to turn a wet road into black ice, one second you're fine and the next you're intertia's bitch.
 
destrekor said:
If it's approaching a steep hill and you recognize there is no chance of stopping the vehicle or guiding it to crash before the steeper decline, I'd reckon escape is a better proposition as opposed to building up a lot more momentum.

Bodily injury does not need highway speeds - if the car has a chance to go from crawl to 20-30mph with who knows what waiting for you down there... yeah, I might jump out too. Split second decision making though, so who knows... if I see a possible out that involves controlling the vehicle and putting it somewhere safe, I'll probably be trying that first.
And it might just look far more dangerous to be on foot out there... in those pileup videos, I wouldn't be trying to bail.
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It's idiotic to try to get out of the car, imo.
 
LTC8K6 said:
I've seen that in several ice driving videos.

I have no idea why you'd get out of the car.

It boggles the mind.
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I've seen behavior like this in many situations. I believe there are a significant number of people who have never before experienced situations completely out of their control. The flight instinct kicks in and 'they're outa here.' Maybe I'm equally as nutty because I tend to find myself with a crazy grin on my face in those situations. Pitting yourself against overwhelming odds is a tremendous rush. I may go down anyways but, I'll never go without a fight.
 
Ice I can understand but what's hilarious is people who completely lose ability to control their car in snow. It's really not that hard, even with crappy tires. You just have to use common sense. I only got around to putting my winter tires yesterday and I've been driving around in the snow on summer tires with no issues. There was a couple spots I was a bit worried I would not be able to pass but I managed without getting stuck. The loose snow will make things sliperly and drifty but using common sense you should be able to get threw it fine if you take it slow enough. Problem is idiots that think they can still do the speed limit or even higher. Straight ahead is not bad, but you really need to take the curves slower, and never hit the brake in a curve!

There's a large S curve type road here that has a limit of 70, I'll take it to 70 for the straight part but on approaching the curve I'll let go the gas, the snow will actually slow me right down fairly quick, don't touch the brake! Then take the curve at 50-60 max. Of course there's always that idiot in a pickup tail gating but have to just ignore those people. I probably could take that curve at 70 but why chance it.
 
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MagnusTheBrewer said:
I've seen behavior like this in many situations. I believe there are a significant number of people who have never before experienced situations completely out of their control. The flight instinct kicks in and 'they're outa here.' Maybe I'm equally as nutty because I tend to find myself with a crazy grin on my face in those situations. Pitting yourself against overwhelming odds is a tremendous rush. I may go down anyways but, I'll never go without a fight.
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I went through one earthquake when I lived in CA, and I immediately did what you're not supposed to do: I fled the building as fast as I could. So I guess I can understand the impulse in some situations... but a sliding, spinning car?
 
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