Theres a rumor going around Clarence Thomas had communications with Desantis.

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Muse

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It is disheartening that a justice on the SCOTUS has such a dismal understanding of the precepts concerning avoiding corruption.
 

trenchfoot

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Yes, but you need a constitution, right? What's insane is thinking that the one we have is adequate and not at least in need of an overhaul if not a virtual replacement. Just how do we go about doing that?


Repubs are trying to do it ala slo-mo coup. Seems to be working for them so far at the state level with the tacit support of their conservative super majority SCOTUS.
 

pmv

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Yes, but you need a constitution, right? What's insane is thinking that the one we have is adequate and not at least in need of an overhaul if not a virtual replacement. Just how do we go about doing that?

The problem you have is the one you have was designed to be very, very, difficult to change. That seems to me to suggest a surfeit of egotism in those who wrote it.

I think this article actually understates the scale of the problem, in that it's also the case that all the elite actors who the Constitution requires the support of for any change to that Constitution, are themselves in their posts partly because of the flaws in the Constitution as it currently stands (e.g. the make up of the Senate getting more skewed over time due to population shifts, or the electoral college, both of which in turn affect the make-up of the Supreme Court). It's an interlocking system designed to ensure eternal stasis. Probably could argue that was a concequence of the determination of the Founders to ensure their own class retained control in perpetuity.

Maybe could further make an argument that involved a bit of paranoia due to a guilty-concience on their part.

 
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The problem you have is the one you have was designed to be very, very, difficult to change. That seems to me to suggest a surfeit of egotism in those who wrote it.

I think this article actually understates the scale of the problem, in that it's also the case that all the elite actors who the Constitution requires the support of for any change to that Constitution, are themselves in their posts partly because of the flaws in the Constitution as it currently stands (e.g. the make up of the Senate getting more skewed over time due to population shifts, or the electoral college, both of which in turn affect the make-up of the Supreme Court). It's an interlocking system designed to ensure eternal stasis. Probably could argue that was a concequence of the determination of the Founders to ensure their own class retained control in perpetuity.

Maybe could further make an argument that involved a bit of paranoia due to a guilty-concience on their part.

Well whoever is left after the country collapses into riots and civil war can start from dcratch. 20 more years of increasing authoritarian rule should get us to the breaking point. A slow coup by the GOP and the middle-class dissolving should have just enough people pissed off enough that nation wide riots lead to the next civil war. It's when the 2nd amendment nutjobs will turn on their masters out of desperation.

Be sure to vote this year. Could be your last chance.
 
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Muse

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Well whoever is left after the country collapses into riots and civil war can start from dcratch. 20 more years of increasing authoritarian rule should get us to the breaking point. A slow coup by the GOP and the middle-class dissolving should have just enough people pissed off enough that nation wide riots lead to the next civil war. It's when the 2nd amendment nutjobs will turn on their masters out of desperation.

Be sure to vote this year. Could be your last chance.
In 1970 where I was (and am now) in Berkeley, CA there was a sense at least among the people I associated with that a revolution was in the offing. Seems perhaps naïve now but some 5-8 years later I was disappointed that the impetuous, the cultural rumblings that would make it happen were mostly absorbed and neutralized by mainstream culture and nothing like a revolution happened and it was clear that it wouldn't. It's possible that a similar upheaval will develop and actually give rise to a revolution or at least what it takes to write a new constitution, one that will allow and hopefully encourage changes going forward as necessary.
 

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A supreme Court Justice and a Governor communicated.

As headlines go, it lacks punch.
It depends what they said, and based upon the character, or lack of, of both men, it's pretty easy to conclude it was probably not above board.
 
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