There's a 23 inch IPS 120hz monitor being released...

Vdubchaos

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I'm SO getting it. It's WELL worth it, now it will be SO much smoother to move my mouse/screens around.

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ViRGE

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Make it 24" and 1920x1200, and I'll fly to Japan myself just to pick it up.
 

tweakboy

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Weak resolution it will have I need 2560res then Ill pull the trigger on a 120hz ,,,,

Aint downgrading my res,, been used to it over 10 years.. Thank you.. gg and gb
 

QueBert

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Finally something that tops virtually all aspects and advantages of CRTs over LCDs.

Blacks aren't close to as good, poorer viewing angles, expensive as hell and PQ isn't as good. Oh and it won't look that good in a non native resolution. I'd take a Sony FW900 over this any day of the week. While this is clearly better than any other LCD on the market, it's still definitely no match for a top of the line CRT if you care about PQ.
 
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toyota

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no way in hell I would pay 1400 bucks for a 23inch monitor. yeah my current 23inch monitor may have its shortcomings but for the 180 bucks I paid I can live with them for now. hell for 1400 bucks I could buy a large plasma tv, xbox360 and ps3 and still have money left over.
 
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Bill Brasky

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no way in hell I would pay 1400 bucks for a 23inch monitor. yeah my current 23inch monitor may have its shortcomings but for the 180 bucks I paid I can live with them for now. hell for 1400 bucks I could buy a large plasma tv, xbox360 and ps3 and still have money left over.

Exactly. I can think of 50 things I'd rather do with $1400 that buy another 23" monitor that is moderately better than the one I currently have.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Weak resolution it will have I need 2560res then Ill pull the trigger on a 120hz ,,,,

Aint downgrading my res,, been used to it over 10 years.. Thank you.. gg and gb

you're stuck at what, 80Hz at that res though? and can only do 108Hz @ 1920x1080? And 98Hz at the recommended 1920x1200 res of that monitor?

I love my 2560x1440 Dell U2711, but it will take every drop of the latest Display Port version's bandwidth to drive a 2560 res @ 120Hz, dual DVI and HDMI can't do it. My reference GTX470 doesn't even have any type of Display Port connector.

It'll be a while before we have the possibility of a 120Hz 2560x monitor, which super sucks.

Of course its hard enough to get the graphical horse power to even drive a 2560 monitor at 60fps let alone near 120fps, so I think its a great compromise to downgrade resolution for performance. Its a far greater benefit for gaming to have the possibility of double the fps @ 120fps vs 60 than it is to have 2560 vs. 1920 resolution.
 

Throckmorton

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Kind of strange how the ports can't keep up with the display resolutions. It used to be the other way around
 

bunnyfubbles

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high res LCD used to be really expensive, and the highest end consumer LCD used to be 1600x1200/1920x1200 for the longest time. 2560x1440/2560x1600 really ups the ante by basically doubling the pixels, and of course 120Hz doubles the bandwidth requirement yet again. Combine the fact that a lot of these higher end panels are 30bit color and it the requirements just go through the roof relative to the average consumer monitor.
 

Petey!

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Confirmed that this is NOT a true 120hz monitor, just a 60hz interpolling.

This is TV style 120hz (Booooooooooo) not Monitor style 120hz
 

toyota

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Confirmed that this is NOT a true 120hz monitor, just a 60hz interpolling.

This is TV style 120hz (Booooooooooo) not Monitor style 120hz
then why on earth would it be 1400 bucks? you can buy a 120hz tv twice the size for half the price.
 

Patrick Wolf

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Its a far greater benefit for gaming to have the possibility of double the fps @ 120fps vs 60 than it is to have 2560 vs. 1920 resolution.
For MP perhaps, but for the single player experience not quite since you'll have a weaker picture and a smaller screen @ 120hz, or lower pixel density with a screen size equal to the 2560 display.
 
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Ben90

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Meh. I'll be happy with upcoming NEC EA232WMi.
and 14 ms response time.

That's really bad for 2010. Like really bad. The only possible way for this to be a ghost free monitor is if this is the absolute max response time, and I haven't seen a non-GtG response time advertised since 2005.

If this advertised 14 ms GtG response time is true, it may take upwards of 50ms to do certain brown to brown transitions.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Confirmed that this is NOT a true 120hz monitor, just a 60hz interpolling.

This is TV style 120hz (Booooooooooo) not Monitor style 120hz

where is this confirmed?

It makes no sense to have interpolated 120Hz for computer monitors. It makes sense for TVs because the TV sources are either 24, 30, or 60 fps.


For MP perhaps, but for the single player experience not quite since you'll have a weaker picture and a smaller screen @ 120hz, or lower pixel density with a screen size equal to the 2560 display.

its a compromise like I stated, and an opinion, and I'm sure some would choose 2560@60Hz over 1920@120Hz ... however I would bet most gamers would ultimately sacrifice resolution for the higher refresh rate after playing on the two different sets, regardless of SP or MP. But you're right, it would make more of a difference for MP.
 

BFG10K

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Its a far greater benefit for gaming to have the possibility of double the fps @ 120fps vs 60 than it is to have 2560 vs. 1920 resolution.
This is an interesting statement. A counter-point might be that a higher resolution enables you to see better at long distances.
 

Petey!

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where is this confirmed?

It makes no sense to have interpolated 120Hz for computer monitors. It makes sense for TVs because the TV sources are either 24, 30, or 60 fps.

Kuriapikucha speed (speed CP)

The super-resolution technology and speed of the frame interpolation, 120 videos, "smooth and Kukkiri."

Predicted to produce new video footage from the motion of the usual 60 frames, 120 frames interpolated twice. Reproduce fast-moving images smoothly.

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Patrick Wolf

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This is an interesting statement. A counter-point might be that a higher resolution enables you to see better at long distances.

True. A 23" @ 1920x1080 has a lower pixel density than a 30" @ 2560x1600. So not only will things be slightly sharper on the 30" but also much larger and thus easier to spot. OTOH, you need a good (spendy) card(s) to push them pixels to achieve the same eye candy you'd get on the 23". Though if you're going to drop $1400 on a monitor maybe that's not an issue.
 
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