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foghorn67

Lifer
Jan 3, 2006
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You get what you pay for. Hopefully he doesn't 'hurt his back' after you fail to pay him. Always hire a licensed and insured contractor. I don't even reallly give a fuck about license but show me some liability insurance and workmans comp.

Oh and your paint skills suck as bad as your judgement. WTF is that?

It got the point across, was he supposed to bust out Solid Works or RevIt?
 

Locut0s

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
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...with paint drawing.

I should have known better. I hired this guy to build me a gate and extend my fence. I did this against my better judgement.

1. He didn't want to come out to bid till 10 AM. After breakfast and coffee. Construction dudes show up at first light. Red flag.
2. He showed up to bid in a beater car, no truck. Red flag.
3. He shows up to work in a Bronco and says that the guy that owns the truck called in sick. So he has to make two trips for materials. Red flag.
4. He wants to install the posts and hang the fence/gate all in the same day. The ground is wet and loose. Questionable but I call, Red flag.

He installed 3 posts. Two for the opening of the gate. They are 11' feet apart. That's good. They are 11" off. That's bad.

New he's pissed because I told him he had to pull one of the posts and reset it.
I guess it will be a battle in the morning.

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So your gate is going to be 11 feet wide? That's a pretty wide gate. Is this wood or metal? Why so wide? Is this going to let a card or truck through?

And yeah 11" off?! I could see a newb like me doing that, although even I would probably only be off by an inch or so. What did he just eyeball it? I mean justing using a tape measurer and a shovel you should only be a couple of inches off at the very worst and really with care you should be bang on.
 

Sea Moose

Diamond Member
May 12, 2009
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if contractor had of used metric system, the fence and gate would have been spot on
 

Sea Moose

Diamond Member
May 12, 2009
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How could this have anything to do with metric vs imperial? Whatever the system of measurement the solution is to measure out x arbitrary units out and dig a hole at x.

you need to send your sarcasm meter to IT (ask for guyver) it obviously needs recalibration.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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...with paint drawing.

I should have known better. I hired this guy to build me a gate and extend my fence. I did this against my better judgement.

1. He didn't want to come out to bid till 10 AM. After breakfast and coffee. Construction dudes show up at first light. Red flag.
2. He showed up to bid in a beater car, no truck. Red flag.
3. He shows up to work in a Bronco and says that the guy that owns the truck called in sick. So he has to make two trips for materials. Red flag.
4. He wants to install the posts and hang the fence/gate all in the same day. The ground is wet and loose. Questionable but I call, Red flag.

He installed 3 posts. Two for the opening of the gate. They are 11' feet apart. That's good. They are 11" off. That's bad.

New he's pissed because I told him he had to pull one of the posts and reset it.
I guess it will be a battle in the morning.

Nice use of red text to bring out "Red flag"...really helps increase impact of said story, drawing a deeper feeling of existing predicament.

Let me know when your 'Unleashing the Full Power of the Internet: Creative Writing in Cyberspace" classes begin so I can switch over to wysiwyg in advance. :)
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Nice use of red text to bring out "Red flag"...really helps increase impact of said story, drawing a deeper feeling of existing predicament.

Let me know when your 'Unleashing the Full Power of the Internet: Creative Writing in Cyberspace" classes begin so I can switch over to wysiwyg in advance. :)


Would this be better for you then?


I should have known better. I hired this guy to build me a gate and extend my fence. I did this against my better judgement.

1. He didn't want to come out to bid till 10 AM. After breakfast and coffee. Construction dudes show up at first light.
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2. He showed up to bid in a beater car, no truck.
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3. He shows up to work in a Bronco and says that the guy that owns the truck called in sick. So he has to make two trips for materials.
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4. He wants to install the posts and hang the fence/gate all in the same day. The ground is wet and loose. Questionable but I call,
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He installed 3 posts. Two for the opening of the gate. They are 11' feet apart. That's good. They are 11" off. That's bad.

New he's pissed because I told him he had to pull one of the posts and reset it.
I guess it will be a battle in the morning.
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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this is a job that even i would attempt, and i'm not particularly "handy".

welcome to failville. population: you
 

hanoverphist

Diamond Member
Dec 7, 2006
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Seriously, I thought the OP was the type of person to perform such work himself. Even I have dug postholes before.

Measure twice, dig once.

or redig 11" to the left. :D

but seriously, id have canned the guy after he showed up without a truck. realistically, id have not hired him without seeing his roc# and doing a bit of research on him. only time i get work done by mexicans without a license is when its my dad, uncle, brother or other relative coming over to help me. and that just costs me beer and food.
 

ElFenix

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Mar 20, 2000
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fuck. Why did I take the bait ? :|

you're getting your antipodeans confused. the OZ antipodeans are always shensing, and the NZ antipodeans are always trying to enrage the rest of us.
 

olds

Elite Member
Mar 3, 2000
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He probably blamed the repost on you! :p

Now, that is funny.

You got fucked by an unlicensed contractor? tsk, tsk...

You, of all people, should know better.

I am disappoint.

You get what you pay for. Hopefully he doesn't 'hurt his back' after you fail to pay him. Always hire a licensed and insured contractor. I don't even reallly give a fuck about license but show me some liability insurance and workmans comp.

Oh and your paint skills suck as bad as your judgement. WTF is that?

He's licensed. He blamed the shoddy work on the fact that he only does production fencing for new homes. Still, he took the job.
Paint is supposed to sick.


has he borrowed any of your tools yet?? did he show up with a level and a tape measure?

He had to use my wheelbarrow to mix the concrete and I doubt he has a string line.

So your gate is going to be 11 feet wide? That's a pretty wide gate. Is this wood or metal? Why so wide? Is this going to let a card or truck through?

And yeah 11" off?! I could see a newb like me doing that, although even I would probably only be off by an inch or so. What did he just eyeball it? I mean justing using a tape measurer and a shovel you should only be a couple of inches off at the very worst and really with care you should be bang on.

11' wide. Two 5.5' gates for RV access.

Sounds like a fairly easy DIY job, why hire someone?

A shovel, cement, and some 4x4 PT lumber would do the trick to at least get the posts up how you want.

this is a job that even i would attempt, and i'm not particularly "handy".

welcome to failville. population: you

I can do the work. I just had some extra cash that I wasn't expecting so I thought I'd hire some. He gets to eat and I could concentrate on more important things like neffing.

I went out this morning at 6AM and pulled the post. I was going to reset it so he didn't have to make an extra trip. I pulled the post and ran a string line to reset it. Once I did, I could see that another post was 2.25" out. By the end of the 12' run, he was almost a foot onto the neighbors property.
I ended up firing him. I paid him for picking up the materials and for some of the labor. He was happy with what he got.
I'll do it myself and just save the aggravation.