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"There?s An Iranian Under Our Bed!"

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/latulippe/latulippe88.html

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A more accurate perspective of Iran, which most of us already know, yet, there is still a lot of fear-mongering from our politicians in regards to Iran. I don't have anything against Israel, but it seems our policy toward Iran has absolutely nothing to do with protecting us, only Israel. And with Israel having a nuclear arsenal of their own, even they are secure against a nuclear Iran.

So why the fear? If I were in Iran's shoes, I would certainly be trying to build the bomb. We have troops practically surrounding their country. If they are not a threat, then the fear-mongering can really only be intended to keep them weak, but weak enough for a future invasion?
 
Don't forget Venezuela, they too are a formidable threat to our freedom..well at least to the Pax Americana crowd.
 
Iranians tortured with US support and assistance:
Tens of thousands.

Americans tortured with Iranian support and assistance:
0 (unless you count the hostages in the late 70's as being tortured)
 
Originally posted by: techs
Iranians tortured with US support and assistance:
Tens of thousands.

Americans tortured with Iranian support and assistance:
0 (unless you count the hostages in the late 70's as being tortured)
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Thats almost sig worthy 😉
 
They have created a myth today and they call it the massacre of the Jews.

There are documents showing close collaboration of the Zionists with the Nazi Germany, and exaggerated numbers relating to the Jewish Holocaust were fabricated to solicit the sympathy of world public opinion, lay the ground for the occupation of Palestine, and to justify the atrocities of the Zionists.

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.

We will not be satisfied with anything less than the liberation of all the occupied territories, the return of all Palestinian refugees and the withdrawal of the occupiers.

Our dear Imam said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the map and this was a very wise statement. We cannot compromise over the issue of Palestine. Is it possible to create a new front in the heart of an old front. This would be a defeat and whoever accepts the legitimacy of this regime has in fact, signed the defeat of the Islamic world. Our dear Imam targeted the heart of the world oppressor in his struggle, meaning the occupying regime. I have no doubt that the new wave that has started in Palestine, and we witness it in the Islamic world too, will eliminate this disgraceful stain from the Islamic world
Anybody who takes a step toward Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation?s fury.

I ask all the Muslims of the world and the Muslim governments to join together to sever the hand of this usurper and its supporters...and, through a ceremony demonstrating the solidarity of Muslims worldwide, announce their support for the legitimate rights of the Muslim people.

 
If there is any nation in the history of the earth that has a absolute right to assume there is a GWB&co under every bed, that nation has to be Iran

But I for one am enraged at Iran, they captured those British sailors and made them play ping pong. Then they made them wear those silk suits they gave them after killing none of them. What fiendish brutes when the USA does it the honest way by sponsoring terrorists and bungling occupations that kill hundreds of thousands of people. I have not seen a similar outrage as bad since that vicious peace monger Gorbachov waved the white flag.

The world is no longer a safe place for people who glory in war and plunder. Damn uppity Iranian, get with the program, bring back your Shah. Hint hint, GWB will soon become available.
 
Originally posted by: techs
Iranians tortured with US support and assistance:
Tens of thousands.

Americans tortured with Iranian support and assistance:
0 (unless you count the hostages in the late 70's as being tortured)
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Oh really? You forgot to include all those Americans tortured by Iran's proxy Hezbollah:

William R. Higgins, Colonel, USMC
--Kidnapped and tortured to death by Hezbollah.

William Francis Buckley, LTC, US Army/CIA Station Chief, Beirut
--Kidnapped and tortured to death by Hezbollah.

Robert Stetham, US Navy, Passenger, Hi-jacked TWA Flight 847
--Beaten and executed by gunshot to the head by Hezbollah

You also forgot to include Americans murdered by Iran. Iran responsible for 1983 Marine barracks bombing, judge rules

Also add the two bombings of the US Embassy in Beirut in which close to 50 Americans were killed.

Now add all the U.S. forces killed in Iraq by Iranian-trained and supplied militia.

Iran wants war with the U.S., they just don't want to fight it themselves.
 
Originally posted by: Woofmeister
Originally posted by: techs
Iranians tortured with US support and assistance:
Tens of thousands.

Americans tortured with Iranian support and assistance:
0 (unless you count the hostages in the late 70's as being tortured)
Click to expand...

Oh really? You forgot to include all those Americans tortured by Iran's proxy Hezbollah:

William R. Higgins, Colonel, USMC
--Kidnapped and tortured to death by Hezbollah.

William Francis Buckley, LTC, US Army/CIA Station Chief, Beirut
--Kidnapped and tortured to death by Hezbollah.

Robert Stetham, US Navy, Passenger, Hi-jacked TWA Flight 847
--Beaten and executed by gunshot to the head by Hezbollah

You also forgot to include Americans murdered by Iran. Iran responsible for 1983 Marine barracks bombing, judge rules

Also add the two bombings of the US Embassy in Beirut in which close to 50 Americans were killed.

Now add all the U.S. forces killed in Iraq by Iranian-trained and supplied militia.

Iran wants war with the U.S., they just don't want to fight it themselves.
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ROBBLE ROBBLE!!!1

DER DURKA DURRRRR!!!1

 
I don't think Iran is going to build a bomb. Just like Saddam didn't have any WMD.

However, Iran will have the capability to build a bomb in 3-6 months or maybe less once all their stuff is up and running. Just like it can take Japan a short time to build a bomb but they don't have one.

NK built a nuke to tell the world to back off
Iran can't test their nuke and having a nuke will piss off everyone.

So once Iran has all their crap done such as the enrichment facilities, nuclear plants or whatever else they are working on then the threat is Iran "could" build a bomb "if" they want.

So we have to eliminate that could. So basically the right to have nuclear energy is not a right at all because if the U.S doesn't like you then they will take away your right.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
So we have to eliminate that could. So basically the right to have nuclear energy is not a right at all because if the U.S doesn't like you then they will take away your right.
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lesson of the day: don't give the U.S., and most of the free nations of the world as well, a reason not to like you.

class dismissed.
 
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Aimster
So we have to eliminate that could. So basically the right to have nuclear energy is not a right at all because if the U.S doesn't like you then they will take away your right.
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lesson of the day: don't give the U.S., and most of the free nations of the world as well, a reason not to like you.

class dismissed.
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:roll:
 
I've been arguing that for a while now - mutually assured destruction worked for 40 years, I don't see why it would be any diff now.

If Iran attacked us or any NATO ally, that place would be a glowing glass parking lot within 30 minutes.
 
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Aimster
So we have to eliminate that could. So basically the right to have nuclear energy is not a right at all because if the U.S doesn't like you then they will take away your right.
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lesson of the day: don't give the U.S., and most of the free nations of the world as well, a reason not to like you.

class dismissed.
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& that reason would be?

 
Originally posted by: Aimster
So basically the right to have nuclear energy is not a right at all because if the U.S doesn't like you then they will take away your right.
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Under Article II of the NPT, non-nuclear weapons states (such as Iran) undertake not to manufacture or acquire nuclear weapons or devices; and not to receive any assistance in their manufacture.

Under Article III of the NPT, non-NWS parties (such as Iran) agree to conclude an agreement with the IAEA for the application of its safeguards to all nuclear material in all of the state's peaceful nuclear activities and to prevent diversion of such material to nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices.

Iran is in violation of Article III of the NPT and every Western intelligence agency agrees that Iran has violated Article II of the NPT in the past. The only question is whether or not Iran is currently violating Article II.

Oh, and before you jump all over the fact that Israel doesn't seem to ever get into trouble for failing to comply with the NPT, there's a very good reason; Israel is not an NPT signatory.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Aimster
So we have to eliminate that could. So basically the right to have nuclear energy is not a right at all because if the U.S doesn't like you then they will take away your right.
Click to expand...
lesson of the day: don't give the U.S., and most of the free nations of the world as well, a reason not to like you.

class dismissed.
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& that reason would be?
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Take a moment to peruse through UN resolutions numbered 1803, 1747, 1737, and 1696... I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

But to sum it up, each of those represents the free world telling Iran that they're very pissed off.

Apparently, Iran's leadership doesn't care.

But you're right, I guess this is all the US' fault... :roll:
 
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Aimster
So we have to eliminate that could. So basically the right to have nuclear energy is not a right at all because if the U.S doesn't like you then they will take away your right.
Click to expand...
lesson of the day: don't give the U.S., and most of the free nations of the world as well, a reason not to like you.

class dismissed.
Click to expand...

& that reason would be?
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Take a moment to peruse through UN resolutions numbered 1803, 1747, 1737, and 1696... I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

But to sum it up, each of those represents the free world telling Iran that they're very pissed off.

Apparently, Iran's leadership doesn't care.

But you're right, I guess this is all the US' fault... :roll:
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lol @ the world

Russia is shipping Iran nuclear fuel and finishing up their nuclear power plant
China has zero objection to it.

Those resolutions passed by the UN don't do squat. What did they take away? The right of Iran to sell arms?

Iran will enrich uranium and Russia and China will sit back and allow it to happen.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Aimster
& that reason would be?
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Take a moment to peruse through UN resolutions numbered 1803, 1747, 1737, and 1696... I'm sure it's in there somewhere.

But to sum it up, each of those represents the free world telling Iran that they're very pissed off.

Apparently, Iran's leadership doesn't care.

But you're right, I guess this is all the US' fault... :roll:
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lol @ the world

Russia is shipping Iran nuclear fuel and finishing up their nuclear power plant
China has zero objection to it.

Those resolutions passed by the UN don't do squat. What did they take away? The right of Iran to sell arms?

Iran will enrich uranium and Russia and China will sit back and allow it to happen.
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Did I say "free" world? I meant to say "civilized"... I didn't mean to confuse you.

It's the civilized countries of the world who do not like Iran... my bad.

China and Russia are another matter...
 
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Aimster
yeah let's forget about that entire part of the world
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Did China and Russia also sign those resolutions and publicly condemn Iran?
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wtf r u smoking?

if Russia had a problem with Iran it wouldn't give them nuclear fuel.
 
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