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Ozoned

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I can't find any information about those infractions. What are they for, why are they handed down, what are the consequences if you get one, how many are you allowed to get before a ban, are they cumulative, etc.


On a side note:
What in the world is this for:

"Hi Number1,
The forums will be down suddenly and inexplicably yesterday for several hours in the afternoon, then they'll come back only to disappear again until this Sunday morning around 8:30 am just in time for you to thank the Almighty that your life has meaning and purpose again."


Automated personalized community service message. You aren't special. Heh.
 

MotF Bane

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Infractions are penalties given for breaking the forum rules. If it is considered too minor to warrant a suspension, you get an infraction. Infractions can exist in a few forms, such as infraction for signature violation, infraction for avatar violation, infraction for insulting members, et cetera. Some infractions expire after a set amount of time, and some will be permanent. An expired infraction is not deleted, it will stay in your record permanently. However, after expiration, it can no longer count towards an auto ban. An automatic ban can be set up so that when you reach a certain number of infraction points active, the forum system will ban you for the set time. The moderators can still decide to use expired infractions as a record of bad behavior and get rid of you. That's their choice.

If you receive an infraction, you will receive a PM, it's required in the infraction issuance panel. As for previous user notes, such as from AT, I don't know what FuseTalk's looked like, but there is a user notes piece attached to each user's profile, and it is likely they have transported everything through to that. And of course, users can be suspended or banned without infractions needing to be issued.
 

Gillbot

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Jan 11, 2001
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I keep hearing this...but I still have the screenshot of a very confused mod trying to figure out what to do with the cash I paypal'd the mod account

That was a put on, we used the $ to buy back our stapler!
stapler1.jpg
 

amdhunter

Lifer
May 19, 2003
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How do you know if the infractions are permanent, or temporary? I think I got 2 in one shot -- is there a way to view the infractions?
 

amdhunter

Lifer
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Found it and HOLY CRAP...do they usually last a whole year like that?
This is worse than having points on my drivers license.
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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Found it and HOLY CRAP...do they usually last a whole year like that?
This is worse than having points on my drivers license.
I'll tell you a secret but you can't share it with anyone. That's why it is a secret.
OK, everyone else stop reading now.

amdhunter, stop acting like a douche and getting infractions. When you stop getting infractions, they'll stop adding up.
/secret
 

tyler811

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Found it and HOLY CRAP...do they usually last a whole year like that?
This is worse than having points on my drivers license.


No mine only lasted a couple of weeks or so. Without trying to get another infraction, I have read some of your posts and can see why you got one for a year. Also though by reading some of your posts, I call Shens

EDIT: Wow just read Olds post and WOW that is exactly what I wanted I to say.
 
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olds

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No mine only lasted a couple of weeks or so. Without trying to get another infraction, I have read some of your posts and can see why you got one for a year. Also though by reading some of your posts, I call Shens

EDIT: Wow just read Olds post and WOW that is exactly what I wanted I to say.
Damn it! It was a secret.
 

MotF Bane

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Found it and HOLY CRAP...do they usually last a whole year like that?
This is worse than having points on my drivers license.

Nope, a year is unusual. AFAIK, the VB default is 10 or 14 days.

I'm sorry olds, I peeked at the secret. AMD, he's right.

<oops, I hit edit, rather than quote, when replying to this message. Original message is still intact. -DrPizza>
 
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DrPizza

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Nope, a year is unusual. AFAIK, the VB default is 10 or 14 days.

I'm sorry olds, I peeked at the secret. AMD, he's right.

It's not a vB default. We had to set up the infractions & the duration that they remain on a record. There's a handful of common infractions that have been set up, such as not having an email address displayed in the FS/T forum. Generally, members correct that problem right away, so there's not much point in worrying about it more than 10 days later. The rest of that handful have also been set at 10 days - I believe that number was just arbitrarily chosen. But the infraction titles that were set up don't address all of the reasons that a member may receive an infraction. We also have to enter custom infractions (which seems more often than not for me.)

In the future, we can set the vB software up to automatically vacation someone for a certain number of accumulated points. Perhaps I've gone a little rogue in doing so, but when I have to enter custom infractions for offenses that when a user repeats them will generally end up with a vacation - I set the expiration date quite a bit later - I've been going with 1 year. i.e. if you're blatantly trolling in the forums, I don't think you should expect that the "infraction" expires in 10 days and that 10 days later, you're free to repeat the same offense.

I'm sure that in the coming weeks, or months, as we get closer to using infractions to result in vacations, the moderators will be discussing this in much more detail. Til then, don't worry about it. For now, the 365 days (vs. 10 days) is me trying to send a more clear message that what you may have done to earn the infraction shouldn't be taken lightly. Without looking back through the records, I believe that in several of those 365 cases, I also pointed out that the user was very lucky that he hadn't just received a vacation. Had we still been with the Fusetalk software, I'm pretty sure that most of them would have had their posting priviledges suspended for a period of time.

-DrPizza
 

tyler811

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It's not a vB default. We had to set up the infractions & the duration that they remain on a record. There's a handful of common infractions that have been set up, such as not having an email address displayed in the FS/T forum. Generally, members correct that problem right away, so there's not much point in worrying about it more than 10 days later. The rest of that handful have also been set at 10 days - I believe that number was just arbitrarily chosen. But the infraction titles that were set up don't address all of the reasons that a member may receive an infraction. We also have to enter custom infractions (which seems more often than not for me.)

In the future, we can set the vB software up to automatically vacation someone for a certain number of accumulated points. Perhaps I've gone a little rogue in doing so, but when I have to enter custom infractions for offenses that when a user repeats them will generally end up with a vacation - I set the expiration date quite a bit later - I've been going with 1 year. i.e. if you're blatantly trolling in the forums, I don't think you should expect that the "infraction" expires in 10 days and that 10 days later, you're free to repeat the same offense.

I'm sure that in the coming weeks, or months, as we get closer to using infractions to result in vacations, the moderators will be discussing this in much more detail. Til then, don't worry about it. For now, the 365 days (vs. 10 days) is me trying to send a more clear message that what you may have done to earn the infraction shouldn't be taken lightly. Without looking back through the records, I believe that in several of those 365 cases, I also pointed out that the user was very lucky that he hadn't just received a vacation. Had we still been with the Fusetalk software, I'm pretty sure that most of them would have had their posting priviledges suspended for a period of time.

-DrPizza


Just like my sig says :thumbsup:<<<<errrr that is supposed to be thumbs up
 

MotF Bane

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It's not a vB default. We had to set up the infractions & the duration that they remain on a record. There's a handful of common infractions that have been set up, such as not having an email address displayed in the FS/T forum. Generally, members correct that problem right away, so there's not much point in worrying about it more than 10 days later. The rest of that handful have also been set at 10 days - I believe that number was just arbitrarily chosen. But the infraction titles that were set up don't address all of the reasons that a member may receive an infraction. We also have to enter custom infractions (which seems more often than not for me.)

In the future, we can set the vB software up to automatically vacation someone for a certain number of accumulated points. Perhaps I've gone a little rogue in doing so, but when I have to enter custom infractions for offenses that when a user repeats them will generally end up with a vacation - I set the expiration date quite a bit later - I've been going with 1 year. i.e. if you're blatantly trolling in the forums, I don't think you should expect that the "infraction" expires in 10 days and that 10 days later, you're free to repeat the same offense.

I'm sure that in the coming weeks, or months, as we get closer to using infractions to result in vacations, the moderators will be discussing this in much more detail. Til then, don't worry about it. For now, the 365 days (vs. 10 days) is me trying to send a more clear message that what you may have done to earn the infraction shouldn't be taken lightly. Without looking back through the records, I believe that in several of those 365 cases, I also pointed out that the user was very lucky that he hadn't just received a vacation. Had we still been with the Fusetalk software, I'm pretty sure that most of them would have had their posting priviledges suspended for a period of time.

-DrPizza

Thanks for clearing that up. At the other VB forums I've been at, they've always showed 10 days, so I concluded that to be the default value. A year does make sense, especially with someplace like this that certainly lasts for years.
 

Gillbot

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Jan 11, 2001
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As DrPizza said, if it's something we want to keep further track of, we can and will extend the length the infraction is to expire. I've handed out a few that never expire myself.
 

MedicBob

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You can't go wrong when taking things out of context. :thumbsup:

Not with ATOT.

I like the infractions idea. It gives fair warning and then the hammer comes down. Automated would be great too. No mod interactions just the sound of the ban stick swinging.