Haven't talked to my barber dude. Talked to the dermotologist and he suggested gel stuff and a mach 3 (which I had been using).
I do shave in the shower, that's why I'm running outta ideas

It does seem to help though.
Tried noxema dimethicone (sounded neat), edge gels, gillette gels, etc. and none work better than any other.
No way, no how can I go against the grain. Entire area breaks out when I do that. Tried a few times and that just ain't gonna work, hurts way too bad (yeah I shave down first too) and get tons of ingrown hairs. I'll give my barber a shot. I don't know if he does shaving (he mostly does women anyway). Hopefully he'll have some clue though.