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Their Blood Cries Out

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin

Your chances of being persecuted as an atheist are probably pretty small.
Not even remotely as small as your chances of being persecuted as a Christian, albeit a close minded Zealot. Frankly I have never seen a want ad for a job stating that that the workplace is an "Atheist" enviroment. On the other hand I have seen plenty that have stated that it was a "Christian" enviroment and which implies that those not Christian needn't apply. In fact when I sent my boys to Christian High School I had to lie and say I was a church going Christian myself or they wouldn't have been admitted even though their mother and both of them were Christians.

Hehe, that reminds me of the time we sent our middle child to a Christian preschool. First, during the 'interview' to make sure we were good Christians, I told the teacher what church we went to (operating word being 'went'.). My oldest was about 9 at the time, and she said loudly, "But we never go anymore!"

Then, during a pre-PTA meeting prayer, and we are all being told to bow our heads in prayer, the little one said,. "But I don't know how to pray!!!"

Honestly, I have been more persecuted WITHIN the Christian church than anywhere else. I remember telling the Baptist Campus Ministries (a club that my husband went to in college) that I grew up Catholic, I thought they were going to kick me out! They were REALLY pissed off that I took one of their most eligible bachelors off the market, hah. In fact, they kept trying to get him to come to singles retreats with them even after we announced our engagement. Like, without me. 😛

< knows it is all about what club you belong to, bah

Any organization is imperfect as it is made up of imperfect human beings. Have you ever considered working within an organization to make it better?

Of course that's more difficult that criticizing and complaining, but ultimately it's a lot more rewarding.

By the way, I went to Catholic college and atended a Baptist campus ministry at a nearby secular university. I can't say enough about the loving kindness that the family that ran the ministry showed to me. I still think about them often.

Sorry that you didn't have as good of an experience as I did.

Yes, actually I do. I work for the public school system to make it better. I grew up in it, my mother taught in it, and I know full well how many problems it has. But change has to come from within.

However, I have no interest in working for a religious organization to make it better! 😛

Anyway, I'm glad the BCM was nice to you. Maybe it was because you were male and not female, who knows? I am quite certain that when my then boyfriend-now husband brought me to one of their meetings, the first thing the young women in charge thought was, "Competition!" 😀 I mean, they did actually call him at my parents house to invite him to a single's retreat, without me, after we were already engaged. His Baptist friend didn't want him to marry me because I wasn't part of their clique. However, it is also true that in my part of the country, there is a lot of prejudice against Catholics. Most people who move from up north are usually surprised by it. I know that in turn, Catholics can be very prejudiced themselves.

Religion lends itself to much exclusionism.

 
The MO of the Taliban and the ACLU are the same. The difference is that the Taliban uses bombs to remove religious symbols while the ACLU uses the threat of costly litigation

The ACLU advocates a secular nation - religious freedom. The Taliban advocates nation run to the rules of a single religion - be muslim or be persecuted. Your comparison of dominance is wholeheartedly and completely wrong. I find it kind of insulting actually and I'm not a US citizen - though I am aware of the atrocities perpetrated by the Taliban.

Andy
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Vadatajs
What's your point, Ripshit?
Wonder when this will happen in the US, led by the ACLU Taliban.
:roll:

In the US, the Taliban are using bullying tactics to remove Christianity from the public square. How long before outright persecution follows?

Is their a problem with that? I am Christian very much so, and I believe it should not influence the public. Religion mixed with politics creates a great scourge and is a recipe for disaster and will contribute to the world's implosion.
 
Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Isla
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin

Your chances of being persecuted as an atheist are probably pretty small.
Not even remotely as small as your chances of being persecuted as a Christian, albeit a close minded Zealot. Frankly I have never seen a want ad for a job stating that that the workplace is an "Atheist" enviroment. On the other hand I have seen plenty that have stated that it was a "Christian" enviroment and which implies that those not Christian needn't apply. In fact when I sent my boys to Christian High School I had to lie and say I was a church going Christian myself or they wouldn't have been admitted even though their mother and both of them were Christians.

Hehe, that reminds me of the time we sent our middle child to a Christian preschool. First, during the 'interview' to make sure we were good Christians, I told the teacher what church we went to (operating word being 'went'.). My oldest was about 9 at the time, and she said loudly, "But we never go anymore!"

Then, during a pre-PTA meeting prayer, and we are all being told to bow our heads in prayer, the little one said,. "But I don't know how to pray!!!"

Honestly, I have been more persecuted WITHIN the Christian church than anywhere else. I remember telling the Baptist Campus Ministries (a club that my husband went to in college) that I grew up Catholic, I thought they were going to kick me out! They were REALLY pissed off that I took one of their most eligible bachelors off the market, hah. In fact, they kept trying to get him to come to singles retreats with them even after we announced our engagement. Like, without me. 😛

< knows it is all about what club you belong to, bah

Any organization is imperfect as it is made up of imperfect human beings. Have you ever considered working within an organization to make it better?

Of course that's more difficult that criticizing and complaining, but ultimately it's a lot more rewarding.

By the way, I went to Catholic college and atended a Baptist campus ministry at a nearby secular university. I can't say enough about the loving kindness that the family that ran the ministry showed to me. I still think about them often.

Sorry that you didn't have as good of an experience as I did.

Yes, actually I do. I work for the public school system to make it better. I grew up in it, my mother taught in it, and I know full well how many problems it has. But change has to come from within.

However, I have no interest in working for a religious organization to make it better! 😛

Anyway, I'm glad the BCM was nice to you. Maybe it was because you were male and not female, who knows? I am quite certain that when my then boyfriend-now husband brought me to one of their meetings, the first thing the young women in charge thought was, "Competition!" 😀 I mean, they did actually call him at my parents house to invite him to a single's retreat, without me, after we were already engaged. His Baptist friend didn't want him to marry me because I wasn't part of their clique. However, it is also true that in my part of the country, there is a lot of prejudice against Catholics. Most people who move from up north are usually surprised by it. I know that in turn, Catholics can be very prejudiced themselves.

Religion lends itself to much exclusionism.

My mom is from the south (Nashville, TN) and she married a Catholic. It was never an issue among her family.

Guess I've had radically diferent experiences than you.
 
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